I think the kids would say- LOL

Shazam!

Shazam!

Evening blog!

of his presidency to throw a veil over the complete disaster and with an eye to his legacy - something for his library i guess - not that i have any hopes that this is going to be successful; maybe he just wants to show al gore and out prizenobel him - delusional of course

and the rest of the blog; this is not the pest-free blog i take it

GODS POLITICS - A Blog by Jim Wallis and friends

Wednesday November 14th, 2007

Catholic Wisdom on Iran and Iraq (by Jim Wallis)

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is holding its annual meeting this week. They have elected a new president, Cardinal Francis George of Chicago, and will vote on their teaching document for the 2008 election. Two other actions are worth noting.

The bishops approved a letter from their International Committee to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice urging a diplomatic solution with Iran:
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"Recent news accounts speculating on the possible use of force against Iran are especially troubling. From a moral perspective, in the absence of an immediate threat against the United States or our allies, military action would constitute an act of preventive war. The Catholic Church teaches: "[E]ngaging in a preventive war without clear proof that an attack is imminent cannot fail to raise serious moral and juridical questions." … The use of force must always be a last resort. In addition, the failure to be transparent about one's nuclear energy program is not grounds for military intervention, nor is the possession of nuclear weapons or the issuing of bellicose statements."
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The bishops also approved a statement on a responsible transition in Iraq. They noted that the concerns they had expressed about the war before it began must "now give way to new moral questions.":
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"Our country needs a new direction to reduce the war's deadly toll and to bring our people together to deal with the conflict's moral and human dimensions. Our nation needs a new bipartisan approach to Iraq policy based on honest and civil dialogue.

Our Conference encourages our national leaders to focus on the morally and politically demanding, but carefully limited goal of fostering a "responsible transition" and withdrawal at the earliest opportunity consistent with that goal. The moral demands of this path begin with addressing the humanitarian crisis in Iraq and minimizing further loss of human life."
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And, they pointed out that

"Catholic teaching has long held that peace is more than the absence of war; it is built on the foundation of justice. This moral insight means that building a just peace in Iraq requires far more than military action; it demands a comprehensive political, diplomatic and economic effort. This effort begins in Iraq, but it does not end there. For this reason, we believe sustained U.S. efforts to collaborate with the other nations, including Syria and Iran, are critically important for bringing some measure of stability to Iraq."
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Both statements are in the best tradition of Catholic social teaching and are worth studying. A responsible U.S. withdrawal from Iraq and diplomacy over war with Iran would provide the opportunity for a more stable and peaceful solution to both issues.

posted by God's Politics @ 3:06 PM

http://blog.beliefnet.com/godspolitics/2007/11/catholic-wisdom-on-iran-a...

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You can make it a happy Thursday eve, maybe?

though it's getting close - i think it's one of sam's trick to have us look forward to something during the week other than the sunday and tuesday appointments

Well...how's this one? In Kitty Kelly's book

about Bush she states that Bush's lover from

college...Anthony Berusca...said that Bush was

a "tender lover." He said that Bush gave GREAT

head....AND SWALLOWED.

making mistakes - have been at the computer all day

really say that - I will have to go and dig it up - I have the book on audio and shudder at the thought of rummaging through those gawdawful tapes - horrific family history, particularly the parts about Barbara - Bush Sr comes off as a bit doddering but kind of likeable

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Some Facts:

(1) There is nothing wrong at all with all the good Anonymous posts.

(2) The majority of Anonymous posts contribute positively to this blog.

(3) All you have to do to register almost any nickname you want here is to first get a free email account at yahoo.com, gmail.com or at numerous other free email services. Then you can post here even on the single Anonymous free day of Thursday.

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It's only a click away.

via email, about troll free Thursday?

Didn't he say he need reminding?

Good evening good participants of the Sam Seder blog!

It is a glorious evening here in America despite 7 years of the horrific W Bush administration and 4 1/2 years of the Iraq War.

keiran
tried to comment about something or other last thursday and it would not let me. Whassup with that?

Unverified stories have George W. Bush being sent by his family to participate in "Worthy Creations," an El Paso church group that specializes in converting homosexual males to functioning heterosexuals. According to a group of Yale classmates of Bush's, he was known to be at the least "sexually experimental" during his time at Yale. One of Bush's alleged former boyfriends, Anthony Berusca, told the Dallas Morning News that Bush was "deeply conflicted about being gay, even somewhat self-hating." Berusca is convinced that this conflict led to Bush's drinking problems, but describes Bush as a "gentle, caring lover." In Kitty Kelley's tell-all biography of the Bush family, she says that George W. Bush earned the nickname "Lips" in college for his facility in giving oral sex to other men. In at least two instances, he has referred to himself as a female: in May 2004, he referred to Senator Bill Frist's wife Karyn as "a West Texas girl, just like me;" during his tenure as governor of Texas, he called himself "First Lady." (The openly gay compiler of these quotes, Roedy Green, says that it is common for gay men to refer to themselves in the feminine; Green notes that he does not believe Bush is homosexual, but bisexual.) Karl Rove, Bush's political guru whose sexual identity has also been the source of speculation, has publicly proclaimed his admiration for Bush in almost erotic terms: "Huge amounts of charisma, swagger, cowboy boots, flight jacket, wonderful smile, just charisma -- you know, wow!" Other instances of homosexuality have been found in Bush's closest political and social comrades: the lesbian novel Sisters written by Dick Cheney's wife Lynne; the fact that the chairman of the Republican Party, Ken Mehlman, is gay, along with the CFO of the Republican Party, Jay Banning, and GOP National Field Director Daniel Gurley (who solicited gay sex over the Internet); and others, including the Guckert-White House journalist scandal of 2005 and the 1989 assertions by the Washington Times that the first Bush administration hosted a male gay escort ring. An Indiana woman, Margie Shoedinger, had a court case pending that claims both she and her husband were raped by George W. Bush while she was dating Bush in the 1970s. Shoedinger's lawsuit was halted when she was found dead, apparently of a self-inflicted bullet wound.

The trick word in that sentence is "good."

out of breath laughing to the point of snot clots coughing up.

Monkey business yields gourmet Taiwan coffee
Wed Nov 14, 1:50 AM ET

YUNLIN, Taiwan (Reuters Life!) - Coffee connoisseurs are going ape for a rare brew that Taiwanese farmers are producing with the help of monkeys.

Formosan rock monkeys have long been a scourge to coffee farmers in Taiwan's mountains because they eat the ripe berries and spit out the seeds.

But now, the farmers are collecting these half-chewed seeds and roasting them to produce a coffee that is being brewed all over the island.

"The monkeys pick the reddest fruits to eat, and spit out the seeds. They cannot swallow them because that may cause indigestion," said Liao Ching-tung, a coffee farmer for 30 years who has recently taken up roasting the regurgitated seeds.

"For other crops it may cause serious loss, but if they eat coffee in this area, then it saves me the trouble of peeling the fruits," he added.

Liao says the discarded seeds yield a sweeter coffee with a vanilla-like scent, which sells for about $56 a pound (450 grams).

For coffee lovers like Wang Chih-ming, price is no object.

"I like coffee it's got a nice aftertaste, that's really good," said Wang.

Coffee beans excreted by native civet cats in Indonesia and painstakingly extracted by hand from the animals' forest droppings reputedly produce the world's rarest and most expensive coffee, which sells for around $1,000 a kg ($450 a pound)

(Reporting by Christine Lu; editing by Miral Fahmy and Doug Young)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071112/ts_alt_afp/ussciencefuel;_ylt=Ajqk4...

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There is one decent anon that posts some good posts.

The anons like 97%, the photo anon and a few others are just nuisances!

Would anyone who has any good animal, drinking or pinup photo's please post them for all of us to enjoy.

Thank You,
Greg

It looks like that at least 2/3rds of the anonymous posts are good ones. Usually they post more good posts than people with nicks do. Just registering a nick is never a guarantee of a good post. Especially bad for this blog is the constant regular whiners, haters, bullies and self-appointed blog cops that have nothing positive to contribute.

Peace be with you,
Greg

funny and

oddly, that link was hard to gooogle.

I agree semi-anonymous Greg.

There is many good anonymous posters that come here including many semi-regulars with nicks. Enjoy the blog the way it is with the good anonymous contributers or leave.

get laid.

anon's are funny too.

It's hard to help them. I tried to link them to help groups. It's like they can't accept another way of seeing things.

but how do you tell one anon from the other - if you read thru and look at pictures you could get an idea i guess but would end up wasting more time than it's worth...waiting and hoping to stumble over one of their "superior ideas" what a laugh

I think it is hilarious that the outrageous horse act otherwise known as Ann Coulter has an AD on the left side of the Sam Seder Show blog that has a big picture of her at the bottom and has a clickable link that says:

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i was aware of the gossip and the rumors, didn't realize they were actually in the book; thanks for posting that stuff

Don't you ever get tired of people disliking your presence? Does it provide some much needed validation for your existence, just knowing that someone notices you?

Curiouser and curiouser...

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She Hates Me, Puddle Of Mudd

you're slipping again.

"There is many good..." It's "there are many good". You always have such a problem with "there is" and "there are".

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(I Hate) Everything About You, Ugly Kid Joe

; )

Gay Peter Dragon you really need to find a partner rather than just sitting in your parents basement or studio apartment on the internet all the time. It's sad that your Gay Peter Dragon sex life only consists of masturbating to internet porn that you have on your computer there which could get you in a lot of trouble with police.

Tsk.. Tsk.. Tsk..

and yes I do get laid regularly. :)

to the blog with even ONE solid idea that changed someone's

mind about an issue. Not since day one, unless someone recalls

one I can't remember.

I'll run downstairs and hip my old lady to that.

She'll be amused.

whoever you are super paranoid pathetic anonymous that thinks he knows who ever anonymous is, your wanting to be an grammar cop of every tom, dick & harry shows what a fuckwad of the internet you are.

i would bet my house that no anon posting here is ever whoever your super paranoia might think it is. get some help for yourself dude.

Which button do I push to turn it on? I want to see it too.

JEEEZ PEOPLE! How paranoid do your delusions have to be to be such a psychotic nerd that you would really delude yourself to believe some of the idiotic paranoid nonsense that you unthinkingly post.

Sam...this would make a great title!

Gay Peter Dragon you really need to...
new
Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 11/14/2007 - 8:15pm.
Gay Peter Dragon you really need to find a partner rather than just sitting in your parents basement or studio apartment on the internet all the time. It's sad that your Gay Peter Dragon sex life only consists of masturbating to internet porn that you have on your computer there which could get you in a lot of trouble with police.

Tsk.. Tsk.. Tsk..

and yes I do get laid regularly. :)

»

A dildo and a rubber isn't getting laid!

All right.

Say It Ain't So, Weezer

Jay Leno once said that his computer had two buttons on it.

ON & PORN

Hey! I just had a fantasy that you killed yourself.

Gay Peter Dragon remember it is you that was thinking so much of the "dildo and a rubber" that you use all the time that you actually typed out what you use and think about.

Gay Peter Dragon please spare use the details of the inanimate objects of your sex life.

ewwwww!

cool, what are you happy about Peter?

What to say?

I agree. Please please spare us whatever you do and use in your private life Peter.

At least not these little kids.

Oh, I don't know anonymous #27, I enjoy all the no life goofs, even poor peter. ;)

But you are only about 15 yourself as your bio shows Peter.

Sorry sonny. I'm in my 30's.

I would bet anything that the other anonymous's here are at least 21 too. You lose again.

troll luvin? Really?

Grammar cops are the fuckwads of the internet
Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 11/14/2007 - 8:19pm.
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Internet is a proper noun.

it's just GAP, sad and lonely.

Did you try reading what you just wrote, aloud, GAP? Beside needing something a bit more cutting than "gay Peter Dragon", it reads like it just came through babelfish, ya know?

Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This), Marilyn Manson (Eurythmics cover)

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Would anyone who has any good animal, drinking or pinup photo's please post them for all of us to enjoy.

Thank You,
Greg

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all the good Anonymous posts. My ribs still hurt.

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Cake And Sodomy, Marilyn Manson

Whoever you are mr chicken anonymous who is too scared to post under his real nick(which can be traced to who you really are), I highly doubt that anyone named GAP, RAP, WAP or ZAP has ever been here.

You must be really really fucked up as the loneliest fucked up person on here to be in such paranoid delusion.

Live with all the anonymous posters or leave.

Tainted Love, Marilyn Manson (Soft Cell cover

I wonder why Tommy Chong is not a regular guest on Air America. Maybe he should have his own show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFEbxOoOxRY&NR=1

I counted at least 5 people posting anonymously tonight not including this first post by myself. And I am one that knows about this server too.

Message to the lone super paranoia guy:

Your paranoid delusions don't fool hardly anyone about who you really are. Please keep that kind of crap off this server.

Living Dead Girl, Rob Zombie

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I'm not hiding, GAP. Pretty sure everyone here know who I am.

Counting at least 5 different people posting anonymously tonight

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 11/14/2007 - 8:47pm.
I counted at least 5 people posting anonymously tonight not including this first post by myself. And I am one that knows about this server too.

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Ok, thanks for the info. I noticed that usually there is twice as many people without nicks online like now:

Online and Active! (in the last 5 min)
There are currently 6 users and 15 guests online.
Online users
Fernando
keiran
Alice
Crank Bait
25-Hour Mom
CharlieNine

Dragula (Hot Herman Remix), White Zombie

Ok, thanks for the info. I noticed that usually there is twice as many people without nicks online like now:

Online and Active! (in the last 5 min)
There are currently 6 users and 15 guests online.
Online users
Fernando
keiran
Alice
Crank Bait
25-Hour Mom
CharlieNine

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Ah hah! so there is/was 15 anonymous's online now.

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Blog!

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 11/14/2007 - 8:47pm.
...Your paranoid delusions don't fool hardly anyone...
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Double negatives are bad form and hardly an indication of a quality liberal arts education.

Now George W. Bush becomes the latest president to try to resolve the bitter, long-standing differences between close U.S. ally Israel and the Palestinians.

What are the "bitter, long-standing differences"? Why can't they be resolved? Is there anything the people can do about it?

Satisfaction, The Rolling Stones

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 11/14/2007 - 8:48pm

He whines: "I'm not hiding"

Sure you are or you wouldn't be so scared to post your real nick which of course can be traced to who you really are. Hardly anyone knows who you are and no one cares at all who you are or about any of your lone delusions that someone is stalking you and always on your mind. I have no idea who you are so super paranoid about and the fact is that NOBODY CARES.

I don't think you could be any more fucked up and lonely.

You were more sane when you were making threats about the president goofball.

Mexican Radio, Wall Of Voodoo

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 11/14/2007 - 9:02pm.

He whines: "I'm not hiding"

LOL! the idiot is a regular nick and he hides by being anonymous then says "I'm not hiding". My comment on that is - ;)

Whoever the other anonymous comment, was this the same idiot that made threats against dubya?

Hmm... I'd want to verify that with him before I took it as fact.

As for threats toward El Jefe, well, as we are fond of saying at the kollective, source it, with links, or STFU.

kthnx!

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The Promise, When In Rome

Schwarzenegger moves backstage in writers strike By Steve Gorman
Tue Nov 13, 4:00 PM ET

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - After weeks of overseeing efforts to fight raging fires and an oil spill, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is weighing in on another potential disaster: the screenwriters strike against film and TV studios.

The action movie star turned politician met on Monday with leaders of the Writers Guild of America and was reaching out by telephone on Tuesday to a number of studio executives, Aaron McLear, a spokesman for the governor, told Reuters.

"The governor is very interested in getting this strike ended as quickly as possible," McLear said as the labor action entered its ninth day with little discernible progress in getting the two sides back to the bargaining table. "The purpose is to see what the state can do to be helpful."

McLear declined to specify who the governor was speaking with or the substance of the discussions, but the Los Angeles Times reported that WGA West president Patric Verrone and chief negotiator David Young were in on Monday's meeting.

The strike began on November 5 after three months of contentious talks on a new contract for 12,000 WGA members collapsed, shattering 20 years of Hollywood labor peace.

The talks faltered mainly over the failure to reach a deal on writers' demands for a greater share of film and TV revenues from the Internet, widely seen as the future distribution channel of choice for most entertainment.

While there has been no obvious immediate impact on the movie industry, TV production was thrown into turmoil as work ground to a halt on numerous prime-time series and highly profitable late-night talk shows were forced into reruns.

Most weekly sitcoms and drama series are expected to be forced out of production by the end of the month.

The last major Hollywood strike was a 1988 walkout by the Writers Guild that lasted for 22 weeks, delayed the start of the fall TV season and ultimately cost the industry an estimated $500 million.

Schwarzenegger, still a member of the Screen Actors Guild, voiced concern last week about the strike's economic impact and workers caught in the middle of the dispute.

The former "Terminator" star, who has been busy in recent weeks marshaling state resources to combat devastating wildfires in Southern California and a major oil spill in San Francisco Bay, is drawing on close relationships he forged with many in Hollywood during his years as an actor.

His back-to-back discussions with union leaders and studio executives signaled his interest in resolving the dispute.

"It's a week into the strike, and he just felt it that this would be a point where it would be appropriate for him to reach out and see if he could be helpful," McLear said. "He has a lot of old friends in the business."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071113/us_nm/screenwriters_strike_dc;_ylt=A...

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My comment on someones paranoid delusions is to ask this question:

How many imaginary people are on here at any given time?

- Sigmund -

You are entering very dangerous ground. This is the only warning I'll give you on this particular line of thought.

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Don't Tread On Me, Metallica

Been up to my ass in alligators.

Down to Jersey for a clan visit tomorrow.

Take care of each other, kids.

See ya's for the show.

ImPeaches, gang!

Peace

Anonymous all!

What the anonymous is going on?

An anonymous telling another anonymous to get over anonymous posts? Another anonymous cutting and pasting how many anonymouses are here, saying it justifies all the anonymous-on-anonymous posting?

My anonymous hurts just thinking about it.

raining in NJ.

Two Princes, Spin Doctors

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Many blessings

How many imaginary people are on here at any given time? ;)
Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 11/14/2007 - 9:12pm.

My comment on someones paranoid delusions is to ask this question:

How many imaginary people are on here at any given time?

- Sigmund -

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HA HA HA HA HA Sigmund!

I almost fell over laughing when I read your comment.

I don't know.

How many too many days alone at the keyboard obessed paranoid delusionals think that someone or some group has to be after them even if they haven't been around for years?

I would think that it would be at least tens of thousands given the millions of people on the internet.

Hmmmm... Frank Zappa had a song name comment called - "It Can't Happen Here" ;)

700 March to Huntingdon Life Sciences in First Protest Allowed in 4 Years

As 700 people gathered in Huntingdon, Amanda Richards from SPEAK kicked of the speeches, reminding everyone of why we were in Huntingdon. HLS kill 500 animals every single day, and have been exposed time and again punching dogs, cutting open live primates, and generally abusing animals in more ways than a sane mind could imagine.

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Lawsuit against Huntingdon Life Sciences cites false-data reports, racial bias at lab

A former scientist for Huntingdon Life Sciences claims in a lawsuit that supervisors at the animal-testing laboratory pressured him into falsifying research data then fired him after he refused.

Samuel R. Onanuga, 48, of Union Township, also claims Huntingdon illegally withheld overtime payments from him and discriminated against him because he is black. Onanuga was a $41,000-a-year senior scientist with the company, which has a research laboratory on Mettlers Road in Franklin, until his dismissal in 2005.

Huntingdon, in an answer to the complaint filed in Superior Court, Elizabeth in August, has denied Onanuga's allegations.
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According to the law suit, supervisors gave in to pressure to alter data on research of drugs and chemicals so the company could continue testing and billing for it.
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One of the anons was me. Sorry for the confusion.

WfC

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 11/14/2007 - 9:12pm.

Server Sniff shows that this anonymous post was by someone who goes by:

Liberal-at-Large

right after they posted with their nick

What the fuck is wrong with this dumb delusional paranoid sicko.

Me too...! I think I'm gonna have to have my anonymous looked at...hope it's covered by insurance! ;)

Anonymous poster at 9:12pm was Liberal-at-Large
Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 11/14/2007 - 9:24pm.

Hey dude I wouldn't worry about. He is the only one posting about some imaginary person that I couldn't find ever posted with that nick. He's just a sicko like you said.

Lets just leave it at that.

Night.

As Rodney King says:

"Can't we all just... get along"

:)

Who da fuck cares about an imaginary person from 2 yrs ago that someone is suffering delusions about, I'm imagining that some asshole from 2 weeks ago that argued with me is here tracing my every move online.

I just dropped in to see what condition my anonymous was in.

They call me the Seeker

Is World War III on Hold?
Tue Nov 13, 3:00 AM ET

Is a Bush pre-emptive strike on Iran's nuclear enrichment plant at Natanz, or on the Al Quds force of the Revolutionary Guard, a more remote possibility today than it was several weeks ago?

So it would seem.

The latest indication is a candid interview in the Financial Times with Adm. William "Fox" Fallon, head of Central Command, who would be the Tommy Franks of any naval or air war on Iran.

"The Pentagon is not preparing a pre-emptive attack on Iran in spite of an increase in bellicose rhetoric from Washington, according to senior officers," concluded the FT in the lead of its story.

Dealing with Iran is a "challenge," a strike is not "in the offing," Fallon is quoted. His comments, said the Times, "served as a shot across the bows of hawks who argue for imminent action."

"(G)enerally, the bellicose comments" out of Washington "are not particularly helpful," said our CentCom commander. That is naval gunfire directed right across the bow of the West Wing.

For the ranking man in Washington said to be arguing loudest for imminent action is Dick Cheney. And the most "bellicose comments" about Iran coming out of Washington have come from George W. Bush.

Here, again, is Bush at the American Legion Convention:

"Iran ... is the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism. ... Iran funds terrorist groups like Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, which murder the innocent and target Israel. ... Iran is sending arms to the Taliban. ... Iran's active pursuit of technology that could lead to nuclear weapons threatens to put a region already known for instability and violence under the shadow of a nuclear holocaust."

Last month, Bush ventured further, "(I)f you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them (Iran) from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon."

If terms like "nuclear holocaust" and "World War III" are not "bellicose rhetoric," what is?

Why might the administration be backing away from war on Iran?

First, Pakistan. With a nation of 170 million with nuclear weapons in a political crisis that could lead to civil war, igniting a war with Iran would seem suicidal — especially with the war in Iraq about to enter its sixth year this spring and the war in Afghanistan about to enter its seventh year next month.

Second, there is no guarantee U.S. air strikes could denuclearize Iran, except temporarily. Bombs cannot destroy knowledge. And Iran has been gaining knowledge for years on how to enrich uranium. Moreover, Iran has surely secreted away many of the centrifuges it has constructed, far from the Natanz plant — ground zero — where 2,000 or 3,000 are said to be operating.

Third, no one can predict where an attack on Iran will lead. While the United States could smash all known nuclear facilities, Iran could ship IEDs, sniper rifles and surface-to-air missiles into Afghanistan and Iraq, and send in thousands of Revolutionary Guard and cause chaos in the Gulf that would double or treble the price of oil, setting off a worldwide recession. Sleeper cells could retaliate for Iranian casualties with suicide bombings at U.S. malls.

We went into Iraq and Afghanistan without an exit strategy. In Iran, other than the naval and air strikes of the first weeks, we do not know how or where the war would go. We do know the Iranians have been preparing surprises.

Fourth, Congress seems to have found its voice, and 30 senators have written to inform President Bush that he does not have the authority, absent an Iranian attack on U.S. forces, to launch a war on Iran. While Rudy Giuliani and John McCain remain hawkish, the Democratic candidates are moving in the other direction.

Fifth, there has been a downturn in roadside attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq, suggesting Iran may no longer be supplying the enhanced IEDs. And U.S. forces have released several Iranians held captive in Iraq. There may be progress behind the scenes, as both countries could suffer horribly in a war.

We are not out of the woods yet. If Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is telling the truth about those 3,000 centrifuges working perfectly, Iran could have the nuclear material for a single bomb in a year. The International Atomic Energy Agency reports this month on whether Iran is meeting its commitments to come clean. It is not. And the European Union will report on whether the sanctions have succeeded, or failed. And the latter is the case.

And there are those in Tehran who would relish U.S. strikes, to unite the nation against us and consolidate the mullahs' power.

Nevertheless, the forces against war now and for negotiations with Tehran — Condi Rice, Robert Gates, the Pentagon brass, the most outspoken of the retired military and NATO Europe — seem to be gaining the ascendancy in the last great battle of the Bush presidency.

And the War Party, which began its propaganda offensive around Labor Day, seems to have shot its bolt. For now.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20071113/cm_uc_crpbux/op_334372;_ylt=AkLr1Yvj...

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someone want to listen and tell me what they think?

New Security Bill Proposes Commission To Monitor Domestic 'Radicalization'

Posted on November 14, 2007 at 6:00 PM.

Since Sept. 11, the government has poured billions of dollars into homeland security.

Congress, prodded by Rep. Dave Reichert, R-Auburn, and supported by the entire Washington state delegation, is poised to toss another $22 million into the mix. Opponents worry that this bill poses potential threats to civil rights.

The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 passed the House last month 404-6. The six "nays" included an unlikely pair: conservative Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., and liberal presidential candidate Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio.

Hello folks, I just got home from shopping. Is there anything big happening in the news or elsewhere?

Oh it's really not a problem. Just laughing at how insane it can get 'round here with all the anon-on-anon action.

Nice one, Alice!

And FTR, there was once a GAP from MRR blog long ago.

And t'were a pain in the collective blog ass.

Now, on a happier note:

Roadkill: OffTheBus's Ongoing RoundUp of the Awkward, the Ugly, and the Just Plain Weird

ciao~

The Poor Will Always Be With Us

Just Not on the TV News - FAIR Study

By Neil deMause and Steve Rendall

The PDF version of the study is available here.

According to the most recent U.S. Census Bureau data, 37 million Americans—one in eight—lived below the federal poverty line in 2005, defined as an annual income of $19,971 for a family of four. Yet poverty touches a far greater share of the population over the course of their lives: A 1997 study by University of Michigan economist Rebecca Blank found that one-third of all U.S. residents will experience government-defined poverty within a 13-year period. The poorest age group is children, with more than one in six living in official poverty at any given time.

Moreover, the poverty line itself, which hasn’t been changed in almost four decades except to account for inflation, has been widely criticized as an antiquated measure of actual levels of need. Mark Greenberg, director of the Task Force on Poverty at the Center for American Progress, wrote in the American Prospect in April 2007:

Studies of a minimally decent standard of living routinely find that the typical cost is twice as high as the poverty line or higher. Ninety million Americans—nearly one-third of the nation—have household incomes below twice the poverty line, a figure far larger than the official number of 37 million in poverty.

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http://oneminuteshift.com/

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Soulfully Gay, by Joe Perez

In the foreword to Soulfully Gay, Ken Wilber writes: "Joe Perez’s book is perhaps the most astonishing, brilliant, and courageous look at the interface between individual belief and cultural values that has been written in our time. By a homosexual, or a heterosexual, or any other sexual I am aware of."

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Self Liberating Spirit - Contemplation about liberation of humans from authority, by Max Rebel

Social power can be useful and positive only when there is an egalitarian balance between the social powers of all members of the society. Capitalism and the contemporary version of democracy, which I would like to call false democracy, encourage continuous and cruel battle for increasing ones own social power and wealth relative to, and at the expense of, the social power and wealth of the others. In a false democracy, where people give up their own rights and powers to some elected authoritarian careerist creatures, who then control, exploit, oppress and murder them for the benefit of the rich and powerful, the whole culture is focused on competing, winning and dominating. The ones who manage to achieve more power by manipulating, exploiting and destroying others, are considered to be more worthy people, and they get credit, acknowledgement, admiration, yes, they are the heroes of false democracy. The situation in the economy, the state and the religious organizations is not better either: the capitalists and their agents, the bureaucrats and the clergy, are rewarding people who can trample on fellow human beings for climbing up the ladder of power. Our culture is hierarchic, it works as an incubator for breeding out creatures who are dreaming of and fighting for power above others, and weak zombies who slavishly accept their own misfortune and willingly present their bodies and minds for regular, devastating and unending abuse by the ones who have got more power.
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and didn't seem to be from another country..I've never been clear if this GAP that WFC and Nobody mention at times is the same person..The GAP (Great American Patriot) that I knew seemed like a nice person, a man, and seemed to just really enjoy talking about the AAR shows, he would put up the schedule..

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You know who I think would be fun to read? Mel. Remember Mel?

...it’s hard to remember that it was Hillary and Bill who brought Pervez to the dance in the first place

Blackwater Mercenaries Poised to Get Fat New Pentagon Contract for "Drug War"

by James Petras

Venezuela’s democratically elected Present Chavez faces the most serious threat since the April 11, 2002 military coup.

Violent street demonstrations by privileged middle and upper middle class university students have led to major street battles in and around the center of Caracas. More seriously, the former Minister of Defense, General Raul Isaias Baduel, who resigned in July, has made explicit calls for a military coup in a November 5th press conference which he convoked exclusively for the right and far-right mass media and political parties, while striking a posture as an ‘individual’ dissident.

The entire international and local private mass media has played up Baduel’s speeches, press conferences along with fabricated accounts of the oppositionist student rampages, presenting them as peaceful protests for democratic rights against the government referendum scheduled for December 2, 2007.

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History has repeatedly taught that when you put social democracy, egalitarianism and popular power at the top of the political agenda, as Chavez has done, and as the vast majority of the populace enthusiastically responds, the Right, the reactionary military, the ‘Centrist’ political defectors and ideologues, the White House, the hysterical middle classes and the Church cardinals will sacrifice any and all democratic freedoms to defend their property, privileges and power by whatever means and at whatever cost necessary. In the current all-pervasive confrontation between the popular classes of Venezuela and their oligarchic and military enemies, only by morally, politically and organizationally arming the people can the continuity of the democratic process of social transformation be guaranteed.

Change will come, the question is whether it will be through the ballot or the bullet.

My opinion is that people on blogs come and go all the time. It is beyond ridiculous for only a person or two to be so obessed to the point of imagining absent people from a long time ago have to be online 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days are pursuing you. Now that is truly paranoid, delusional and as other people have said - sicko.

I suggest to keep it real, keep in in the present and be nice to one another.

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