Edwards Ad

Yesterday with Maron I spoke of my Obama dilemma, I am basically leaning back and forth between Edwards and Obama... ads like this one make me happy that I don't vote for a month

 

SEDER

If you are floating around, can we get a list of your upcoming appearances?

Good ? Zeek !

:)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Just got this in the email bag.

This person needs a job. This individual seeks an executive position.
He will be available in January 2009, and is willing to relocate.
(Please don't skip the last section!)

RESUME

GEORGE W. BUSH

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue

Washington, DC 20520

EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:

Law Enforcement:
I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is not available.

Military:
I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.

College:
I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a cheerleader.

PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:

I ran for U.S. Congress and lost.

I began my career in the oil business in Midland Texas , in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money.

With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS:

I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America.

I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money.

I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history.

With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida , and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President of the United States, after losing by over 500,000 votes.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:

I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.

I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.

I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.

I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.

I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market. In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues.

I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleezza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. President.

I am the all-time U.S. and world record -holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.

My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. history, Enron.

My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.

I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history. I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.

I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.

I changed the U.S. policy to allow convict ed criminals to be awarded government contracts.

I appointed more convicted criminals to my administration than any President in U.S. history.

I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States Government.

I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S. history.

I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.

I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.

I refused to allow inspector's access to U.S. "prisoners of war" detainees and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.

I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US election).

I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President since the advent of television.

I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period. After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.

I garnered the most sympathy ever for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.

I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind.

I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. Citizens and the world community.

I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families in wartime.

In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends.

I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.

I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a WMD.

I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden to justice.

RECORDS AND REFERENCES:

All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father's library, sealed and unavailable for public view.

All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review. I specified that my sealed documents will not be available for 50 years.

PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERY VOTER YOU KNOW!

ouija caucus

Union's Rule !


"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Anettee..No Link at all ?

:/

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Sara Jane Moore

A woman who tried to assassinate President Gerald Ford in 1975 as a statement against what she claimed was the US government's war against the American left has been released from a California jail, 32 years into her sentence.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2234024,00.html

None that I saw in the email, MMR

Got it from my sister in law.

Duck !

Sara Jane Moore
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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Cool Annette..Just hoping/wondering.. :)

Good post,by the way..

Sent it to my Wingnut Brother-in-Laws ! Hee ! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Unions DO rule

My husband's paycheck was docked a good $500-1000 on 12-28. Merry Christmas to us HA!

His union fought and won the money back.

The question is, when will it show up on the paycheck? Only God (and management) knows.

A Question For Sam Seder

I heard you speak on New Years Day of your consideration of Obama and Edwards. I would be interested to read or hear your topmost reasons for rejecting Dodd and Biden.

The primaries will be over before Super-Duper Tues---Gare

Well before Sammy gets to vote, it'll be Hillary, Obama, or Edwards.

South Carolina likely to decide it. If no one has won three in a row (IA, NH, NV) and it's close in SC....the nominee will be "inevitable" by February 5th.

And then (except for HRC), the RUN to "the Center" begins, as Obama or Edwards starts to back sloooooooooooooooooooooooowly away from "the netroots", "the Blogosphere", the "progressives", and Air America (LOL!)

Then the bitchin' here begins in earnest and Seder (party loyalist and not wanting to miss a chance at an invite to the Inaugural Balls...and a bigger paycheck) works his "lesser of two evils" magic on you guys!

Crank

I've also heard him and Garafalo say voting is a pragmatic process. It's not very realistic to endorse Dodd or Biden when you consider their polling numbers.

I can afford to vote Dodd because I live in Texas and things get decided before our primary. I would vote Dodd were I to in Iowa but I am not a pragmatist. I'm much more of a principled voter and apt to vote disassociated with probability of casting a majority vote.

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Obama, Cozy with Corporate Lobbyists

Wondering who's on Edwards' payroll? The chart names two men: Adam Jentleson and Matthew Morrison.

Jentleson "lobbied on behalf of the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank," and Morrison, "was registered as a lobbyist for the American Federation of Teachers," (a trade union). Trade union and liberal think tank, quite the distinction from Obama's political movers, isn't it?

http://www.alternet.org/election08/72079/

In fact

I would guess that if you can't decide between Obama/Edwards you are pragmatic but very pricipled as well. Maybe he believes only a top tier candidate will be cast and his principled side is the one with the dilema.

but he may just be voting on principle.I don't know how you could find a more potent principle than supporting the Constitution.

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This era in US history

will be known as the age of fuktard. The noun "fuktard" will always be associated with President Bush. 100 years from now people will say, "You mean this country in the 21st Century had a fuktard as President? How did that happen?"

Historians will have a field day analyzing the social ills of our history beginning in the 21st Century. People throughout the world will always laugh at us for tolerating a fuktard, and actually having serious press conferences with him.

97% of Americans in the future won't believe this ever happened.

Happy New Year everyone!

Happy New Year EB

I already have two friends coming over for caucus watch tonight. It's gonna be a brawl.

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HNY EB

My new year will hopefully be better starting tomorrow. I'm counting yesterday and today as a wash.

caucus watch tonight?

aren't you jumping the gun? isn't the caacaa tomorrow?

I'm practicing writing

2008 several times so I don't forget to date my checks correctly.

My New Year's resolution is to eat more tasty foods.

( you'll never see me breaking that one!)

Oh hell

Dan. You are right. They both commented what's going on because we always grill out on Wensday. I have that so much on my mind that I told them we would be watching that.

I'm just so ready for it....

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Good one EB ! :)

Unfortunately, The second question might still be..

Fucktard !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

we always grill out on Wensday

if its the twins, you can't say no :)

Special Request...

You bettah bounce yer man-boobs on Friday, Mister SEDER.

;-p

sorry dan

these are dudes.

Several activists from World Can’t Wait, joined by other antiwar activists are at Jerold Nadler’s Brooklyn office today. They don’t intend to leave until they get a commitment from Nadler to get impeachment started in the House Judiciary Committee. They are requesting that you put out the word, asking people to call Nadler’s offices to make the same demand.

Washington Office: Tel. 202-225-5635
Manhattan Office: Tel. 212-367-7350
Brooklyn Office: Tel. 718-373-3198 - C&L

I called the Brooklyn Office where I heard "We are not allowed to answer any questions about who is here".

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Saw National Treasure last night

I love Nicholas Cage - *sigh*

Was it Good,Annette ?

I liked the first one.. :)
I liked the goofy geek guy/side kick,the best though..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

anybody listening to the naomi wolf replay on randi?

its incredible that the no fly list is being used as a political enemies list. speak out against the government and they harass you when you travel.

I'm listening dan

chilling. I'm waiting for that look my daughter gives me when I try to do something right and it ends up in my face. At least I'll be in good company.

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this is the government that the fabled 97% embrace:

from naomi wolf talking about valerie plame:

How dirty did the tricks get? Ms. Wilson describes being denied protection by the C.I.A., fearing for her children’s safety, finding out that her tax returns were being audited and having been lucky enough to discover that some bolts holding the Wilsons’ outdoor deck, high above the ground, had disappeared.

I'm listening also...

even though I'm not a fan of her. Reminded me of this:
Will Bush Cancel The 2008 Election?

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/31/2874/

Baggy jeans at mall drag family to jail

WELLINGTON — Six members of a family were arrested at The Mall at Wellington Green in an incident that began benignly enough over a pair of droopy jeans but ended like a chaotic scene out of the Cops TV show.

An estimated 20 deputies, two canine units and a police helicopter swarmed the area surrounding the mall's food court, shutting down roads, all to arrest a 52-year-old man, his 50-year-old wife and four other relatives, ages 16 to 20, Thursday evening.

It's a family affair. They get to spend the holiday in jail together," Palm Beach County sheriff's Lt. Jay Hart said.

For the Leger family, which has lived in Wellington since 1992, though, this is no laughing matter. They say sheriff's deputies overreacted with not just the force of their numbers but also with sheer force.

Their arrests, along with the physical and verbal abuse family members say they endured, were punishment for both questioning the arrest of one of their sons and for leveling racism charges on the deputies, they contend.

That isn't so, deputies say. The family attempted to stop deputies from arresting a relative, which led to the situation spiraling out of control.

The fracas began around 7 p.m. Thursday when deputies arrested Frantz Leger, the Legers' 20-year-old son. He had returned to the mall where he was banned for violating its "Rules of Common Courtesy" on or around August. The Florida State University sophomore business major was verboten for wearing his pants too low......

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Feds share coupons to help TV transition

WASHINGTON - Millions of $40 government coupons become available Tuesday to help low-tech television owners buy special converter boxes for older TVs that might not work after the switch to digital broadcasting.

Beginning Feb. 18, 2009, anyone who does not own a digital set and still gets their programming via over-the-air antennas will no longer receive a picture.

That's the day the television industry completes its transition from old-style analog broadcasting to digital.

The converter boxes are expected to cost between $50 and $70 and will be available at most major electronics retail stores. Starting Tuesday, the National Telecommunications and Information Administration will begin accepting requests for two $40 coupons per household to be used toward the purchase of the boxes.

Viewers who have satellite or cable service will not need a box.

To request a coupon, consumers can apply online at http://www.dtv2009.gov starting Tuesday. The government also has set up a 24-hour hotline to take requests, 1-888-DTV-2009 (1-888-388-2009).

Baggy jeans at mall drag family to jail

so, what it is with florida and the prevalance of police riots? granted baggy pants are asinine, but still...

Mukasey: Criminal probe begins into CIA tapes

WASHINGTON - The Justice Department opened a criminal investigation into the destruction of CIA interrogation videotapes and Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey appointed an outside prosecutor to oversee the case.

The CIA acknowledged last month that it destroyed videos of officers using tough interrogation methods while questioning two al-Qaida suspects. The acknowledgment sparked a congressional inquiry and a preliminary investigation by Justice.

"The Department's National Security Division has recommended, and I have concluded, that there is a basis for initiating a criminal investigation of this matter, and I have taken steps to begin that investigation," Mukasey said in a statement released Wednesday.

Mukasey named John Durham, a federal prosecutor in Connecticut, to oversee the case.

MMR

Yeah it was good. I like the sidekick too :-) But I've always loved storylines like that one.

$100 a barrel

$100 is just the beginning," said Zachary Oxman, senior trader at Wisdom Financial in California.

"This is kicking off what you are going to see this year. There will be huge moves up in gold and huge moves up in crude."

Central banks such as the Bank of England and the Federal Reserve are worried that rising oil prices will prevent them cutting interest rates.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7168664.stm

Storylines like that one

Me too ! :)

Just sometimes,like the first one,Cage seems alittle wooden as a actor,sometimes..
But,I'm a dude..Put,Alessandra Ambrosio or, Ana Beatriz Barros in the lead role,I'd watch it !
;)
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

my question

ghettodefender.. Will we be at double digit inflation when the new President takes office?

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[citation needed]

2008.01.01

It’s no secret that I’m a big Wikipedia fan — I’ve got a serious case of NADD and about half my browser tabs at any given time are Wikipedia articles. One of my favorite quirks about the site are the little [citation needed] tags that users can place in an article, indicating that a dubious claim needs a reference. One day an idea struck — what statements are more dubious or outright ridiculous than those in advertisements? Thus, an OM project was born. I had 250 8×2 inch stickers printed, which I handed out to friends, who circulated them further. In true wiki fashion, the final placement of the stickers is a collaborative effort, now distributed and anonymous.

More here:
http://biphenyl.org/blog/2008/01/01/citation-needed/

Lucy to Ethel:

"C'mon, Ethel! Let's caucus!!"

ha!

WP: Redskins could go farther than Patriots

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This is not America

Baggy jeans at mall drag family to jail
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Submitted by Kevin © on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 4:11pm.
WELLINGTON...An estimated 20 deputies, two canine units and a police helicopter swarmed the area surrounding the mall's food court, shutting down roads, all to arrest a 52-year-old man, his 50-year-old wife and four other relatives, ages 16 to 20, Thursday evening.

It's a family affair. They get to spend the holiday in jail together," Palm Beach County sheriff's Lt. Jay Hart said.

,,,banned for violating its "Rules of Common Courtesy" on or around August. The Florida State University sophomore business major was verboten for wearing his pants too low......

I am not a fan of this particular fashion style. I am surprised the mall would actually incorporate this rule in its RCC since the young man probably bought the pants in that mall.

And with the "thought police" legislation currently and likely to pass (HR1955/S1959)in Congress.

Published on Monday, November 19, 2007 by The Baltimore Sun
Here Come the Thought Police
by Ralph E. Shaffer and R. William Robinson
With overwhelming bipartisan support, Rep. Jane Harman’s “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act” passed the House 404-6 late last month and now rests in Sen. Joe Lieberman’s Homeland Security Committee. Swift Senate passage appears certain.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/11/19/5320/

Get ready to see more of these incidents from "over-zealous, looking to exert its power" law enforcement. And provide one more way to arrest (enslave) African-American and poor white young men

I am not surprised that this occurred in a state once ruled by a Bush.

This continues, we won't need to have any immigration laws, since no one will want to come here.

It can happen...

ha!
Submitted by Fernando on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 5:05pm.
WP: Redskins could go farther than Patriots

Hail to the Redskins! Hail Victory! Braves on the warpath; Fight for ole D.C.

Run or pass and score we want a lot more!
Beat 'em, swamp 'em. Let the points soar!

Fight on, fight on till you have won,
Sons of Wash-ing-ton!

RAH-RAH-RAH

Hail to the Redskins! Hail Victory! Braves on the warpath; Fight for ole D.C.!

I believe!

Lantos not to run

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/02/lantos.retirement/

Sorry he is sick but good riddance. I think he was going to face a serious challenge anyway.

go Edwards

I totally support Edwards. I was a protester at the 2000 Democratic convention in Los Angeles, where the police started to shoot people with pellet guns at a music concert.

Things became so bad under Bush, I was actually wondering why I protested by the DNC, then I remembered, I was with a group angry about the pre-Sept 2001 Iraq situation.
Bill Clinton's foreign policy was still fairly interventionist, even though Bush's is so much worse. Both Clintons and Bush I and II favored neoliberal economic policies.
Right now I work with progressives and anarchists in California, but I can work and be friends with conservatives, and at work I sometimes go to remote areas for two weeks with coast guard/homeland security staff and we all get along.
Anyway, I've talked with friends who are the type who would protest the Democrats, but we wouldn't go if Edwards were the candidate among the top 3 viable ones right now. This is because he at least bothers to pander int he right way regarding class issues. I don't really care about his lack of emphasis on certain social issues such as gay marriage, and I don't care at all about gun control and an array of low-ranking issues that Newsweek seems to think are litmus test points. The economy and our foreign colonies are the most important things.

On AAR Site ! ! Seder..on Tomorrow and Friday..Ya Bastids ! :)

Heads Up

SEDER on January 2, 2008 - 4:38pm
I'll be subbing for Randi t omorrow and Friday.... She'll be back on Monday. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Tomorrow, Tomorrow...I love ya!

Too bad I'll be working.

Does anybody tape this shit?

Annette..These sites have free Randi podcasts..AAR too..

Oops ! KPTK-Seattle doesn't have Randi podcasts..Green960 does though..

http://www.green960.com/main.html

http://www.ktlk.com/cc-common/podcast.html

But,you have to wait awhile..Earliest is usually that nite..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Say goodbye to toothpaste?

PS Thanks MMR

:-) I'll look into that.

Annette your in Kansas,right..

Check the Local Progressive Radio stations around there too..Kansas City..etc..
Check and see if they have Free Podcasts..
It would be closer to your time zone..
The ones I listed are all West coast.. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

s.j.

happy new year. is there a story behind your nkp train bell?

So Very Many Reasons To Choose In The Primary Election

Submitted by Fernando on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 2:54pm.
I've also heard him and Garafalo say voting is a pragmatic process. It's not very realistic to endorse Dodd or Biden when you consider their polling numbers.
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(This entire post is in regard to my question to Sam Seder: I heard you speak on New Years Day of your consideration of Obama and Edwards. I would be interested to read or hear your topmost reasons for rejecting Dodd and Biden.)

Fernando,

I am not seeking pragmatism over any other consideration. I am seeking an answer from Sam Seder influenced by any consideration.

In my opinion, any candidate is fair voter's game in the primaries (assuming that a poll-leading Nazi doesn't need a sound beating to keep us all out of the gas chambers).

The primary election is an opportunity to berm votes around a candidate who is running on a stance that deserves a second look by the front runners. In theory, a vote for Dodd or Biden or Kucinich or Richardson could be a vote to make Clinton or Obama or Edwards sit up and take notice of an opinion held by a substantial percentage of the electorate. Of course, the volume of votes for an opponent determines whether the front runners pay any attention to the Also-Ran's message.

Certainly a pragmatic vote can come into play in certain circumstances. In this case, "certain circumstances" may prove to be the general election, not the primaries.

As the situation rests today, I think that a Liberal voter would be best served by voting in the primary for a candidate who espouses ideas held by the voter. At worst, Clinton or Obama or Edwards will win the nomination regardless.

I can live (I have no other choice) with any of those people becoming the ultimate Democratic candidates. In the meantime, I would like for them to know that an "also ran" espoused ideas that I share.

As for Sam Seder, I am curious if he concurs with my "pragmatic" overview. That is: a.) does he like anything that Biden or Dodd is saying, and b.) does Sam think that he is wasting a primary vote on a non-front runner?

In summation, and in short, I don't think that the primary election (in this year's particular example) is crucial to the nomination and election of a Democratic candidate.

My biggest worry is that Hillary will mobilize the Conservatives to vote in droves against her.

On the other hand, I think that there are other Wild Cards. Who knows what the Youth Vote turnout will be (can you say "Internet")? And the Apathetic vote? And the Latino vote? And the rural America vote comprised of parents who are tired of sending their kids overseas to die?

Any of those surprisingly-large votes could squash an anti-Hillary turnout by the Republicans.

Randi podcasts

I cannot vouch for the consistency but Green 960

http://www.green960.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=ra...

posts the hour by hour podcasts pretty quickly. Today's show is already there even though it will not air for another hour.

It seems to me that Sam is just running SammyCam straight through tomorrow no matter where he airs or pundificates.

Who would you like to hear filling in February 23 thru March 1?

Who would you like to hear filling in February 23 thru March 1? CharlieNine9

Zeek
kdelarosa22
pbtrue1
CranesAreFlying
grischa
Kat-in-Manhattan
and
Various anonomii
Thanks for suggestions and anybody else got a name to suggest.

Maybe worth cross posting on the AAR blogs.

Honor Bound To Never Miss An Opportunity To Elicit Groans

Who would you like to hear filling in February 23 thru March 1?
Submitted by CharlieNine on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 7:50pm.
...Thanks for suggestions and anybody else got a name to suggest...
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Take my wife. Please.

Take my wife. Please.

you left off the intro:

i just flew in from the coast, and boy are my arms tired.

C9

I e-mailed (or at least tried) Mark Green to suggest that while he had the AAR "talent" on the cruise he might want to re-assemble AAR 1.0 programming as much as possible since that was pretty much the best it ever was there before the managements started screwing up everything.

I got no reply.

Zeek

I really hope Sam and Laura pick up a bunch of the subbing shifts. Even putting together some of the Marc Maron ensamble.
I think I'll email the host of the shows and cross post on their bloggs or Thom Hartmann' show chat room.

We'll see what happens.

Air Travel Congestion

Submitted by dan on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 7:58pm.
you left off the intro: i just flew in from the coast, and boy are my arms tired.
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I just flu in from the coast and, boy, are my seatmates snotty.

Evening all

I'm wondering how Al Franken is doing in Minnesota?

Haven't heard recently. Even the blogs have been quiet on ole Al.

Conyers demands special

Conyers demands special counsel in CIA tape investigation. In response to Attorney General Mike Mukasey announcing he would appoint John Durham, the Assistant United States Attorney from Connecticut, to investigate the CIA’s tape destruction, House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers (D-MI) said “it is disappointing” that Mukasey “declined to appoint a more independent special counsel in this matter.” From his statement:

Because of this action, the Congress and the American people will be denied — as they were in the Valerie Plame matter — any final report on the investigation.

Equally disappointing is the limited scope of this investigation, which appears limited to the destruction of two tapes. The government needs to scrutinize what other evidence may have been destroyed beyond the two tapes, as well as the underlying allegations of misconduct associated with the interrogations.

The Justice Department’s record over the past seven years of sweeping the administration’s misconduct under the rug has left the American public with little confidence in the administration’s ability to investigate itself. Nothing less than a special counsel with a full investigative mandate will meet the tests of independence, transparency and completeness. Appointment of a special counsel will allow our nation to begin to restore our credibility and moral standing on these issues.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/02/doj-launches-investigation-into-cia-...

Despite Expressing Support

Despite Expressing Support For Writers, Huckabee Will Cross Picket Line To Appear On Leno
Today, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee is heading to Los Angeles to appear as Jay Leno’s first guest on the Tonight Show since the writer’s strike began on Nov. 5. When Huckabee enters Leno’s Burbank, CA studio, he will have to cross a picket line of striking Writers Guild of America members, as the union is protesting Leno’s return without a settlement.

Speaking to reporters earlier today, Huckabee “professed his support for the striking television writers union,” but said that he didn’t realize Leno’s writers were still on strike:

Mr. Leno’s program is returning to the air for the first time since a long hiatus for the strike. Speaking to reporters, Mr. Huckabee said he was unaware that he would be crossing picket lines and believed that he the program had reached a special agreement with the union.

Huckabee is either confused or being intentionally misleading. Unlike his rival — CBS’s David Letterman — the producers of Leno’s show have not brokered any sort of agreement with the Writer’s Guild.

Additionally, before being challenged by reporters about the picket lines, Huckabee and his team indicated that they knew Leno’s writers were still on strike. Today on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Huckabee’s wife, Janet, described his appearance on the Tonight Show as “an opportunity, really, for Mike, with the writer’s strike and everything, to go and give back to him [Leno].” Huckabee nodded in agreement. Watch it:

In an interview with the Associated Press yesterday, Huckabee joked about the strike’s stalled negotiations, saying that “if all else fails and this whole process doesn’t work out, maybe [Leno] needs a sidekick and I’ll be auditioning tomorrow.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/02/huckabee-picket-line/

UPDATE: Alluding to Huckabee’s prior ignorance about the Iran NIE, ABC’s Jake Tapper reported tonight that his ignorance about the writer’s strike was just “the latest example of Huckabee being uninformed about a major event.” Watch it:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/31/huckabee-nie-again/

MS attorney general files

MS attorney general files suit against Barbour. In light of Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour (R) naming Rep. Roger Wicker (R-MS) as a replacement for Trent Lott’s Senate seat, State Attorney General Jim Hood filed a lawsuit today in Hinds County Circuit Court “seeking an injunction to require the special election for Lott’s replacement to be conducted within 90 days”:

In a Dec. 20 proclamation, Barbour set the Nov. 4, 2008 general election as the date for the senatorial special election. If a runoff is required, it will be conducted on Nov. 25, the governor said. But Hood said state statute mandates the governor set the election within 90 days of his proclamation.

“As a result of the governor’s proclamation, the state of Mississippi will be without a popularly elected replacement senator for at least 322 days (10 months and 17 days) and possibly 342 days (11 months and seven days) in the event of a runoff election,” Hood said in his motion for a preliminary injunction.

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080102/NEWS/80...

story behind the nkp train bell

it was on a switch engine that worked the siding behind my gramps small farm in Ohio.

it's the first railroad bell i can remember hearing as a kid. i always loved the sound and sight of her going by.

dad knew the crew for years and asked for the bell when she was scrapped in the 60's.

he had it on his fence for years.

now it's on ours.

Show idea

Like Shooting Fish In A Barrel

Submitted by toniD on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 8:13pm.
I'm wondering how Al Franken is doing in Minnesota?
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I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me.

RR bell summertime

Hello tonid - I saw this article the middle of last month

Al Franken's run for U.S. Senate is ... no joke

By Paul Farhi

The Washington Post

Now, thanks to 15 seasons on "Saturday Night Live," his books (five bestsellers) and three years hosting a liberal talk show on the struggling Air America radio network, Franken has the name recognition for a statewide run. He has money, too. He's raised some $10.4 million so far, in good part due to help from showbiz friends in New York and Hollywood such as Michaels, Tom Hanks and Paul Newman. Early polls show him running neck and neck for the Democratic nomination with Mike Ciresi, a wealthy trial lawyer. Coleman holds a slight lead over both in a head-to-head race.--

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004081482_franken19.html

I wish him well! I think he will be true to his hero Paul Wellstone. It will be a plus to have some one inspired by Wellstone in the senate.

C9

Little More Muck for the

Little More Muck for the Road ...
Ex-Speaker Denny Hastert (R-IL) initially failed to tell the FEC about the $147,000 he spent on lawyers in the Foley scandal. Hastert had to close down his campaign to avoid big time fines.

--Josh Marshall

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2008/01/hastert_the_untold_story.h...

I'm Gonna Eat Big Shit For This One

Submitted by Sunshine Jim on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 8:21pm.
...dad knew the crew for years and asked for the bell when she was scrapped in the 60's.
he had it on his fence for years.
now it's on ours.
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On the fence: An empathetic curse passed on from generation to generation.

heh!

genetic dithering.

no cure.

is that a Rule #2 violation?

In My Own Defense...

My empathetic proclivity allows for me to put myself into shoes that should be filled with concrete and resting on the floor of the Mississippi River.

Evening everyone...

how is it going in all parts of this weird & wonderful world we live in??
Sunshine Jim - HAPPY NEW YEAR to you & your pups.
How is the car rehabbing going?
Any new photos??

Ex-Speaker Denny Hastert (R-IL)

If I may say so myself..... he is a BIG FAT LYING IDIOT!!!

;)

CharlieNine -

I just donated money to Al's campaign. I have always liked him & his odd humor. I was 15 when S.N.L. came on to the scene & watched it every Saturday nite.
I was usually baby sitting then @ that time.
He was a friend of Wellstones & I agree that he would make Paul proud.

News bites!

Dips And Doodling

dan,
I made a month's wages (meager, but still a month's) by playing the market today.

I figure that I can wander around aimlessly for two weeks before I have to come up with a new plan.

(Buy low, sell high. It's not new, but it seems to be as good as plans get.)

I'm hoping that you can advise me as to what's low? I can figure the rest out from there.

May I give kudos to ....

Crank Bait - KUDOS to you sir. Your knowledge of the english language makes me green with envy.
I'm always delighted to read your posts.

Alice & toniD

evening to you both. Good to be back on the blog.

Hope you are feeling well toniD.

Alice how is everything going with the kitties???
They have been on my mind since that meeting you went to. Hope things are working out as far as that goes.

Belushi=Historic Bait=Prehistoric

Submitted by smcgee43 on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 9:03pm.
I just donated money to Al's campaign. I have always liked him & his odd humor. I was 15 when S.N.L. came on to the scene & watched it every Saturday nite. I was usually baby sitting then @ that time.
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Older than dirt: What I feel like.

Mike Malloy

is not on the air - some guy I have never heard of is.

Mike & Kathy are on vacation till next Tuesday.

Older than dirt: What I feel like.

Funny you should mention feeling that way. I have been under the weather the past 3/4 weeks and I felt that same way.
I felt like I was a 100 year old woman.

--Many Reasons To Choose In The Primary Election---

Primary Elections are where you vote with your heart, and not worry about if your candidate will win, that's the way I look at them.

A Colloquial Tour de Force

Submitted by smcgee43 on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 9:06pm.
Crank Bait - KUDOS to you sir. Your knowledge of the english language makes me green with envy.
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'Fess up. The "Eating Big Shit" line is what impressed you, right?

Fox News guest: sex ed boosters want kids to get STD

THINK PROGRESS

During the Dec. 31 broadcast of Fox News’ Special Report, Concerned Women for America President Wendy Wright claimed that proponents of comprehensive sex education are trying to “encourage” sex because “they benefit when kids end up having sexually transmitted diseases, unintended pregnancies and then they lead them into having abortions.” She then added, “You have to look at the financial motives behind those who are promoting comprehensive sex ed.” Watch it:

VIDEO LINK

Sandy

It's freakin cold out!! Had to pull out the electric blanket last night. I woke up shivering in the middle of the night because the winds were out of the east and my window faces east. Those winds were howling last night.

Hope you feel better smcgee43

There's a cold going around that last's a long time, I had one that lasted around 12-13 days around Xmas.

Oh there is a Football Game on ... Later Blog.. 8-)

The Bubba Guarantee

Submitted by smcgee43 on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 9:14pm.
...I have been under the weather the past 3/4 weeks...
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Take two somethings or other and call yourself The Rajah of Bhong.

Crank

My biggest worry is that Hillary will mobilize the Conservatives to vote in droves against her.

That is just one concern. What about losing the base within the party. The folks disenfranchised by NAFTA the women or minorities who lost access to services. There is an internal grudge that I also fear.

I am positive McCain is a wildcard from the Republicans. I'm not on board with his hawkish stance so his counter would disarm that. Is that Edwards or Obama in that case?

USER NAV

Wall St start to new year

Wall St start to new year worst in 25 years By Chris Bryant in New York
Wed Jan 2, 5:15 PM ET

US blue-chip stocks on Wednesday suffered the worst start to a new year in 25 years after an index of manufacturing fell sharply, raising fears that the US economy is slowing more than expected.

Energy stocks were a lone bright spot as crude oil prices touched $100 a barrel, but the spike in crude accentuated selling of a broad range of transport and industrial companies. Technology stocks were particularly weak after an analyst downgraded several semiconductor companies.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 1.7 per cent to 13,043.96 points, its worst percentage decline on the first trading day of a year since 1983. The S&P 500 closed 1.4 per cent lower at 1,447.16 and the Nasdaq Composite shed 1.6 per cent to 2,609.63.

The Institute for Supply Management's survey showed that manufacturing weakened unexpectedly in December. The ISM index fell 3.1 percentage points to 47.7 last month, against expectations it would be little changed. A reading of 50 marks the line between growth and contraction.

"Clearly the worries that we finished 2007 with are continuing into 2008, with these ISM numbers coming out so weak," Ryan Larson, senior equity trader at Voyageur Asset Management, said. "The Fed is caught between a rock and a hard place trying to fight inflation while dealing with the slowdown in US growth."

Minutes from the Federal Open Market Committee's December meeting emphasised the difficulty of "unusually uncertain" economic conditions and indicated the Fed remained "exceptionally alert" to the possible need for further rate cuts.

The futures market fully priced in the likelihood of at least a 25 basis point cut at the end of this month compared with a 68 per cent chance a week ago.

Semiconductor stocks were sold after Banc of America Securities downgraded eight companies - three of them to "sell" - saying a cyclical recovery had run its course, while inventories had risen above equilibrium levels.

BofA analyst Sumit Dhanda cut Intel (NASDAQ:INTC) to "neutral" and told investors to sell shares in Advanced Micro Devices (NYSE:AMD). The shares fell 4.9 per cent to $25.35 and 4.8 per cent to $7.14 respectively. The PHLX semiconductor sector index lost 2.9 per cent to 396.34.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ft/20080102/bs_ft/fto010220081725270407&printer=...

Labor Unions and Taft-Hartley

"Eating Big Shit" line is what impressed you, right?

YES - Crank that was it. How did you know??? ;)

I HATE THIS COLD WEATHER

toniD - had to put garbage & recycling out tonight - a simple task - yet with the weather the way it is, its one of those responsibility's I do not want to do.
My temperature gauge says it is a whopping 10 degrees out. (Im sure that will go down a bit throughout the evening)
Break out the swim wear! :)

Don't Sweat The Intellectual Stuff

Submitted by Fernando on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 9:25pm.
[Bait]: My biggest worry is that Hillary will mobilize the Conservatives to vote in droves against her.

[Fernando]: That is just one concern. What about losing the base within the party. The folks disenfranchised by NAFTA the women or minorities who lost access to services. There is an internal grudge that I also fear...
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I am entering War Dog Prediction territory here, and I don't wanna.

I don't believe that NAFTA is the cause of the global quest for cheaper labor. I believe that NAFTA is the tar baby for the fact that cheap global labor (and China rising from the rice paddies) has occurred, even though it was (and will be) inevitable. NAFTA did not exist when we were first offered better and cheaper Japanese cars and Scandinavian furniture.

Beyond my opinion, the question is, "What does the electorate believe about NAFTA?" I don't believe that the electorate understands shit from Shinola about NAFTA or the shifts from higher labor costs to lower labor costs. I believe that the bulk of the electorate lumps NAFTA into "ee-legal immigration." Certainly, the most rabid and ignorant Conservatives are more concerned with wetbacks from Mexico than pajamas from Cambodia.

So, no. I am not worried about the negative impact of NAFTA on the Democratic candidates. For the few Conservatives who know the score, NAFTA was as much a Republican thrust as it was a Democratic one.

As for women and others in poverty or teetering on the cusp: Do you truly believe that they will vote for a Republican to lift them out of squalor?

Recently you wrote that you are fretting. You got that right. The inside of your cheek must look like hamburger by now.

Kucinich pissed me off by endorsing one of those other people...

so he lost my vote...

I'm going with my original vote..Peace and Freedom Party

Period.

I can't wait til this two-party farce is over..it's making me SICK.

Radiant With Energy

Wall St start to new year worst in 25 years
Submitted by toniD on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 9:42pm.
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If it warms your cockles any, the solar energy related stocks were up today. Again. For the umpteenth time.

I had a feeling

you'd feel pissy about Kucinich, Shell.

Something about how he did it.

Although he did say it was just for Iowa. But why Obama? He's looking more centrist every day.

That did not make me happy, Toni..

He sucks for that.

The repubs don't want to

admit it, but, the majority of the world is believing in global warming and I think they are tired of the Saudis and the middle east controlling the oil.

Marsoupial Stew

Submitted by smcgee43 on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 10:06pm.
...had to put garbage & recycling out tonight - a simple task - yet with the weather the way it is, its one of those responsibility's I do not want to do...My temperature gauge says it is a whopping 10 degrees out.
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The crunching sounds that you hear are opossums eating your frozen banana peels.

(Opossum trivia: They have, like, 40,000 teeth minus the hyperbole.)

Yeah after reading William Cooper

I'm not even sure about Global Warming either...

I remember (and I posted it here) when Bill got out of office, he was doing some interview where he brings up a particular "green" company that he was going to be investing in..Invest in green technology..years ago this was...And blam..A big green boom...so manipulative...I don't trust anything...Even if it seems like the 'right' thing to do..it's a money maker for someone somewhere...

So..Green, MY ASS.. is what I have to say about that...

Creepy...

America invaded by
Gothardite zombies for Huckabee

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Hiding behind an “aw shucks” grin and a Fender bass, Huckabee installed Gothard’s faith-based programs into Arkansas towns, prisons, and schools. When beauty queen Mrs. Arkansas posed for this picture to proclaim “Character Education Month,” did she know the smiling man beside her, in fact, may have been a dead person revived by a sorcerer?

Yes Virginia, there IS scientific proof of the validity of

Maybe Sam could interview this man...

BookTV: Robert Kuttner on the “Intellectual Inconsistency” of Alan Greenspan’s Economics
By: Nicole Belle @ 5:15 PM - PST

Download (375) | Play (333) Download (349) | Play (148) (h/t Heather)

Robert Kuttner, author of “The Squandering of America“, has been an advocate for “fair market” controls rather than the “free market” laissez-faire approach on The American Prospect for quite some time. At a book fair, he discusses his issues with former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan’s policies on market control:

What was so striking about that book [Greenspan’s The Age of Turbulence], was that half of it is a screed against the need for government regulation—you know, free markets are self-regulating—government doesn’t need to mess with free markets. They’ll correct themselves. And the other half of it is Greenspan’s memoir about all of the times he used the Federal Reserve to bail out failed bets by free markets. Now, how can you have it both ways? Well, if you rule the roost, you can have it any way you want. Fine. But there’s a hypocrisy and there’s a lack of intellectual consistency. Either free markets regulate themselves and the government really shouldn’t do anything—yes, Alan, the Fed is part of the government—or, if you think the markets run the risk of going haywire, you have a duty to regulate on the front end and not just bail them out on the back end. So, I think citizens can raise hell about this and elect people who believe in a managed form of capitalism rather than a predatory form of capitalism.

Kuttner’s article on The Solvency Crisis referenced in the video is here. And Bonddad at HuffPo sees the credit crisis continuing into 2008, as well as inflation of commodities, like oil (now $100/barrel) and gold.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/01/02/booktv-robert-kuttner-on-the-in...

For Fernando

Chris Dodd stands by his supporters. Will not be part of an auction
By: John Amato @ 4:30 PM - PST

Here’s another reason to like Chris Dodd. Andrea Mitchell wanted to know who Chris Dodd would support for the presidential nomination because she said there were reports that other candidates who are not considered to be in the top tier are cutting deals. He would have none of that talk and said it was irresponsible for any candidate to cut deals or endorse another candidate because his supporters are—you know—supporting him. She kept pressing the issue, but he didn’t back down. It’s nice to know he won’t be auctioning off his supporters.

Download (369) | Play (366) Download (283) | Play (183)

Dodd: Yea, I’m totally opposed to that and let me take advantage of the interview Andrea saying don’t make any calls to my office, any campaigns…I didn’t come here and spend a year campaigning in Iowa…working and expect the people who committed themselves to me at my behest and support someone else. They made a decision to be for me and I’m grateful to them.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/01/02/chris-dodd-stands-by-his-suppor...

Kucinich Revenge

I think Dennis is just getting Edwards back for trying to shut the single digit candidates out of the debates a few months ago. (Or seeming to.)

Then again, Obama's got a more liberal voting record than Kucinich himself, so who knows?

3rd Partys might be the answer some day. But until they're making waves when it's not already an election season, they're only spoilers. If a Green Party or whatever wants to become relevant in America, they've got to make some noise before the big elections begin. Until then, they're merely an afterthought.

Toobin on Mukasey’s

Toobin on Mukasey’s Criminal probe of the CIA’s destroyed tapes…
By: John Amato @ 2:37 PM - PST

CNN’s Ed Henry talks about the Keane/Hamilton op-ed and Jeffrey Toobin discusses the new criminal probe of the destroyed CIA tapes led by John Durham.

Download (1419) | Play (1762) Download (1031) | Play (1067) (videos will be working momentarily)

Toobin: It’s a big deal because particularly when you assign one prosecutor to investigate one case, it takes a long time….but the Bush administration is certainly in for the remainder of its tenure dealing with subpoenas, grand jury testimony about a very difficult subject.

OK, who thinks David Addington has more to do with this than has been previously reported? I’m just saying that because he’s been behind so much garbage as Cheney’s right hand man….Here’s a little more on Durham.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/01/02/toobin-on-mukaseys-criminal-pro...

The Third Party From The Pulsar

That did not make me happy, Toni..
Submitted by Alice on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 10:22pm.
He sucks for that.
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---Bait News Service---

Kucinich Throws Support Behind Thetans, Tom Cruise To Run

In a surprise move, Dennis Kucinich directed his followers to support something or other hanging invisibly in the ether. "If you can't see it, you don't need Secret Service protection for it," he stated, defending its cost-saving attribute.

The nuclear football will be carried randomly around the White House in the hope that it is somewhat near our Peerless Leader, if there is one, wherever he or she might be.

Tom Cruise will be directed to act in a creepy and crappy, four-year-long horror film of our own making, humping America's teen virgins along the way.

But peace will reign while our global adversaries ask themselves, "What the fuck?"

Tentatively, the party will be known as the symbol formerly known as the artist formerly known as Prince, though copyright negotiations are currently in progress.

Pieter Bruegel (the Elder): The Triumph of Death



"Fear is the foundation of most governments"
-John Adams

McCain refuses to say if

McCain refuses to say if he's healthy enough to handle 8 years as president
by John Aravosis (DC) · 1/02/2008 09:33:00 PM ET · Link
Discuss this post here: Comments (44) · reddit · FARK ·· Digg It!

Just watched something rather creepy on ABC News.
ABC CORRESPONDENT: McCain is 71. Today he was asked if he has the health and endurance to serve two terms as president.

JOHN MCCAIN: You shouldn't run for 8 years. I'm running for a four year term.
Actually, the appropriate answer is "hell yeah, I can handle 20 years as president." I'm wondering if the increasingly fragile-looking McCain can handle even four.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/01/mccain-refuses-to-say-if-hes-healthy....

mystic23

"Then again, Obama's got a more liberal voting record than Kucinich himself, so who knows?"

I've seen you write something like this before. I'd like to see what you read that lead you to believe this.

Edwards continues to impress

Edwards continues to impress on foreign policy
by A.J. Rossmiller · 1/02/2008 02:43:00 PM ET · Link
Discuss this post here: Comments (87) · reddit · FARK ·· Digg It!

Michael Gordon, the NYT reporter who wrote the fantastic "Cobra II", interviewed Edwards this weekend about Iraq and foreign policy more generally, and I just read the transcript. Gordon isn't trying to play "gotcha", and the questions -- and perhaps most importantly, the follow-up conversations -- are extremely good and highly instructive.

It's lengthy, and there's really no point in trying to summarize it. If you're interested in that stuff, it's very much worth checking out. Without getting into the details, I'll just say that anybody who thinks Edwards is a foreign policy lightweight is dead wrong.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/01/us/politics/02edwards-transcript.html?...

-spoilers- You can call them whatever you want..

though I'm not sure why two choices is enough for anyone...

I call them choices...and if both parties, mostly Dems, are tryng to keep them out of the races, then there must be something there..

I read the P&F platform, many times...I'm not saying they can pull it off even if they were elected, I'm saying that they have typed out a vision that synchs up with my own.

I've never seen anything other than a D or R in office..I want to see that.

I don't want what is shoved in front of my face.

Sigh

Submitted by Alice on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 11:14pm.
...I don't want what is shoved in front of my face.
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If I had a nickle for every time I've heard that...

the quadrennial farce called electing a president

I simply do not believe the many people who tell me that in a less “imperfect” world they would certainly vote for a progressive candidate for president. I have been hearing this song election after election, each one described as unique and a “just-this-time” event, but one absolutely requiring my “pragmatic” vote to ward off imminent and ultimate evil. In 1980 Barry Commoner ran a Naderesque challenge for the presidency. At one campaign stop he was asked: “Are you a serious candidate or are you just running on the issues?” In 1984, Jesse Jackson’s “hymietown” remark effectively doomed his campaign while the enthusiasts for Jewish supremacy in Palestine continued their longstanding support for the mass murder of Palestinians without a murmur of dissent from liberals or most of the Left. In 1988, Jackson defied crackpot projections and became the front runner, for God’s sake, but the realists torpedoed him all the same. His progressive platform just “couldn’t win” against the intensely charismatic George Bush Senior. In 1992, pundits ridiculed Jerry Brown’s 800 number soliciting small donations, promoting the usual crackpot logic that candidates prostituted to vast corporate fortunes are not compromised, but “viable.” In 1996, we had to re-elect Clinton to hold off the Gingrich “crazies,” and in 2000 Gore was the Green Prince of the Environment against the GOP’s eco-evildoers. To tell the truth, this anti-democratic ruse of lesser evilism has been practiced forever and has never failed to produce disastrous results. In 1908 when a disgruntled “realist” shouted to him that voting socialist was throwing a vote away, Eugene Debs responded hotly: “That’s right. Don’t vote for freedom—you might not get it. Vote for slavery—you have a cinch on that.”

In short, we can expect no end to surrender under the sway of crackpot logic, which makes me suspect that if the lower half of the wealth pyramid (i.e. the non-voters) by some miracle suddenly took over the Democratic Party and nominated a candidate like Nader, most of the diehard pragmatists urging us to be “realistic” would defect to the GOP.

- Michael K. Smith, October 2004

Obama Most Liberal

Oh Crank..Scientology? Equating 3rd parties with Scientology?

or am I just in a yicky mood?

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Look...I was here when Kerry took a dive...

If we and Sam had become so upset by (T)his D Party THEN...and turned it into something better than a show that simply jokingly points out the obvious...well...who knows...No one knows the word PRO-ACTIVE?

[Edited. Because that was just mean of me]

and there's this

-If I had a nickle for every time I've heard that...-

Hey, if I had one for everytime I've said it...
Together we could BUY a new Party :)

There isn't much choice is there Shell ?

You don't like the Dems pushed in your face so you live for 8 years with an idiot for president that has ruined our country to the point that it will take years just to repair what his admin has done.

The problem is that everything is against a third party. Even these centrists that are meeting in Oklahoma to possibly run Bloomberg as an independent know deep down it won't work.

There could be a viable third party if the people of the United States want one. The problem is there aren't enough people interested in promoting a third party. I know this because my little group has been trying to get people to run locally and are having a hard time.

It's great to be an idealist but idealism doesn't work in this world of ours.

Whoa you were right, mystic23..it doesn't go to the bottom

on an edit anymore...Kewl.

More Weird Stuff Than You Can Shake A Shtick At

Oh Crank..Scientology? Equating 3rd parties with Scientology?
Submitted by Alice on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 11:21pm
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I conjoined the Kucinich UFO sightings meme with the long-shot candidate meme and the Dianetics meme, added the Hollywood idol meme, then stirred constantly over low heat, sprinkled in a pinch of Prince, and Voila!

It works for me, Toni..

While the same, (similar), shit continues should a Democrat become President. I will be ok with myself inside. I will not vote based on fear, or ignorance, for that matter.

You know damn well that a Dem President and Congress

can literally spend 8 years plus making us think that everything that can't do is because of THEM!

Back and forth back and forth they go - rhetoric.

A recipe...no wonder I couldn't fathom it.. ;)

The Case for Socialized Medicine in the United States, and the Struggle to Achieve It

*

Today that man who revealed his Republican face months ago at work by telling me that he didn't want "Socialized Medicine"...I explained that he was basically standing in a Socialized Institution - well we didn't speak for months..He came in today and I saw I was going to have to check his material out, I said "Hey Commrade"..omg..we laughed for the longest time...it was great.. :)

Yep MMR

I'z in Kansas - and I'll do that :-) Thanks for the idea! Do you think they even have liberal radio around here? The closest I found was NPR and I have no idea what the call letters of that station are. I found it by accident and then lost it one day.

Sorry for the absentee blogging. I have a short attention span! :-) Just leave a message and I'll respond within 24 hours LOL

when anybody says no one cares...

i can say i'm in the company of many that do.

Thank you, mystic23

Though those statistics leave many questions unanswered. But I was curious.

So Dennis is backing Obama now. Interesting

Annette..Got these off Randi Rhodes website..So they are some..

St. Louis, MO
1190 KRFT-AM
On from 3-6pm CT

Columbus, OH
1580 WVKO-AM
New Affiliate - on from 3-6pm ET

Chicago, IL
820 WCPT-AM
Live from 2-5pm CT
(WCPT has moved to 820AM

Madison, WI
92.1 WXXM-FM
Live from 2-5pm CT

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Maybe I am old enough to be more

cynical than you, Shell.

Problem is there is more than just you on this earth. Feeling good about yourself won't help others.

So you vote to satisfy yourself and the wrong person gets into office but you feel good because you made the best choice for yourself.

Maybe I am phrasing this wrong. Noone will be perfect. There will always be something you disagree with in a person running for office. And it's not just you making a decision. And as you have seen, many people vote aginst their best interest.

Until the way people run for office, and the funding of that run changes, you'll always get those that will take advantage.

Let The Punishment Fit The Crime

Submitted by Alice on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 11:36pm.
While the same, (similar), shit continues should a Democrat become President. I will be ok with myself inside. I will not vote based on fear, or ignorance, for that matter.
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You listen up, young lady. You just go ahead and vote for a no-chance loser like Nader, and we'll be happy to let you try to eek out an existence under the thumb of a murderous slash-and-burning Bush instead of a globally-minded nice guy named Gore.

Oh. Yeah. That already happened. To all of us. Never mind.

(A note from several hundred thousand dead people and their deceased cats: "Ralph who?")

Alice..2 Supreme Court Justices will probably be replaced in

the next 4 years !

Who do you want picking them ?
A Rethug or a Democrat ?

Remember: Scalia, Roberts and, Alito !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

It's not to satisfy myself..it's because I agree with their

platform.

I do it because I am CHOOSING to believe that my vote matters.

And to not believe the things I have read about the President of the United States being chosen LONG before, years before the alleged vote.

And not believe the things I've read about voter fraud and purging and all the other things that make our votes not be cast or matter.

The things I've read about other countries that have MANY parties.

Other communities that have fair AUTONOMY from government.

That's just what I can come up with off the top of my head...there's more...(if I were Star Vox I would take the time to find it)....

If you listen to what happend to this little girl

http://thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=322

No one can undo the damage that the u.s. government has done...

Doin' It Myyyyyyyy Wayyyyyyy

Submitted by Alice on Thu, 01/03/2008 - 12:07am.
...That's just what I can come up with off the top of my head...there's more...(if I were Star Vox I would take the time to find it)....
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And that's why I'm gonna vote for a Thetan. No sumbitch is gonna tell me what to do, goddammit.

-So Dennis is backing Obama now. Interesting-

It's EFFING FISHY - like everything else in government..IMO...

SJ

I'm glad there are people who care. But thanks to your move, you can't vote!!!

And THANK YOU - - Michael K. Smith, October 2004 -

In short, we can expect no end to surrender under the sway of crackpot logic, which makes me suspect that if the lower half of the wealth pyramid (i.e. the non-voters) by some miracle suddenly took over the Democratic Party and nominated a candidate like Nader, most of the diehard pragmatists urging us to be “realistic” would defect to the GOP.

Hey ALICE, Sugar and Spice, Baby Cakes....mmmm

*Munchies*
Janice Brown

ah sweet Annette!

but i can vote.

i have a residence in oregon

and i can and do mail in my vote every election

Annette, SUNNY J, MMR, Toni, 'evernen Yall!

Janice Brown

I think you may have nailed it...

Kucinich Revenge
new
Submitted by mystic23 on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 10:41pm.
I think Dennis is just getting Edwards back for trying to shut the single digit candidates out of the debates a few months ago. (Or seeming to.)

...I heard Hartmann's interview of Kucinich earlier today and they discussed Kucinich throwing his support to Obama. Listening to him I thought it sounded more like he was conceding, though he did qualify the release to the second ballot. As you can see the effect it had on Alice, I am sure it has taken "the wind out of the sails" of most of his supporters. Not a smooth move and he kinda of sounded petty about why he directed them to Obama.

Something about Edwards being the recipient of ads produced by 524 organizations, such as unions, move-on.org. This surprised me since most of these organizations are composed of citizens who are typically individually disenfranchised but form collectively to voice an opinion or support an issue or issues otherewise overlooked.

The key issues for me are health care, stem cell research, education and our right to information, the salvation of the constitution and our freedoms, and a foreign policy that promotes life this side of the womb.

The “match up to the candidate” has me strongly in the Kucinich camp. Gravel follows a distant second and a slight drop to Obama-Clinton-Edwards-Biden-Richardson-Dodd with only a point separating each of them. The only Republican making it on the positive side of, but nor from zero is Ron Paul. The rest sink, and stink, to hell.

I’ve always said if we were more a evolved (and informed) society and I strictly relied on rationality, I would vote for Kucinich because of his position on the issues. But I am only human and I value the intangibles-emotion, intuition (gut feeling)-that I get from observations of the candidates and their actions.

For me, there has always been something about Kucinich that makes me think of him as a little off-center, and I am not referring to his political leaning or his sighting of an UFO. It might be that he doesn't have a sense of timing--he doesn't know when to hold them and when to fold them. I think he shot himself in the foot today just as the race is about to start.

See you all tommorrow, just testin' the site, overanxious...

Janice Brown

I don't know, JBB, Sweet Tart...

I'm not snapping out of this one any time soon.. :)

Even American democracy will change.

It might not be this election, but as sure as there was an American revolution, things will change. And it will be abrupt and swift. You won't know what hit you.

Most likely things will continue to get worse, until our world is consumed in violent chaos even more than it already is, and it will be all our fault. And I will be happy and say I told you so.

Sometimes I think about Babylon, what it was like to live in that city, that civilization; buildings made of brick, thousands of years of history, culture. It must have seemed like it would always be there.

Things change, and drastically. It's the one thing you can count on.

John Edwards, if you're listening...

All I can say is, if you don't win, could I have my $20 back?

I could sure use it about now. :-)

JBB!!

Happy New Year, and may we all not get any poorer this year than we are already!

SJ - Whew!

What a relief!

MMR

Thanks for the sites! I'll save those... and see what I come up wid.

I'm glad there are people who care

Annette is right ALICE--that's you. I know you just care too much, that's all. It's going to be okay. We have to save the World. Us, you me, SAM and all of our Air America family. We did it last election, don't give up now! I'll see you tomorrow. Sweet dreams!
Janice Brown

eya Janet!

HNY!

hoping you will be delighted every day of 08!

Somebody has a book

they're supposed to give me when they're done reading it that has something to do with Babylon. Supposed to be good.

I'll let you know if they ever remember to pass it on to me.

But...

the fewer resentments you harbor, the happier your life will be
-Cosmic trigger I

Or something....

Goodnight... ♥

fuck-me-!

[eh, not really necessary]

See you in the AM

Eyes drooping right now.

Night all!

Happy New Year Annette, Woohoooo!

Janice Brown

too-long-o'-walkin'

Yeah, I liked him too. *sigh*

At least, he agreed with me more than anyone else does. A rarity, indeed.

Wooooohoooo!!! JB

Couldn't wait for 08 and it's finally here!

Now, for the next 12 months...

Good Nite Tonid

:)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Nite ya'll

Good lord, is it that time already?

See ya'll tomorrow. But not in front of the boss this time. He got a bit testy today.

Strike Up The Band ! :)

Eve 6-Inside Out

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

tell ya gang, elections are rigged currently

most of what we discuss is not what's really happening or important in reality.

most people refuse to confront the really hideous stuff and fall back on the media propaganda to kick around.

fact is they control the vote, the candidates and the count.

all the rest is window dressing.

this is a class/race war.

Having said that...

i'm indebted to every good person who has bucked the bullshit in any way, whether they're effective or not.

this is a class/race war.

Most Americans “Very Satisfied” With Their Personal Lives

Slim majority also say they are “very happy” at this timePersonal Philosophy Religion and Social Trends Well-Being Americas by Joseph Carroll

PRINCETON, NJ -- As Americans look ahead to the new year and reflect on the year past, a recent Gallup Poll finds the public generally content with their own lives. Most Americans say they are generally happy, with a slim majority saying they are "very happy."

More than 8 in 10 Americans say they are satisfied with their personal lives at this time, including a solid majority who say they are "very satisfied."

States question electronic vote machines..(Finally !)

By GEORGE MERRITT, Associated Press Writer

DENVER - With the presidential race in full swing, Colorado and other states have found critical flaws in the accuracy and security of their electronic voting machines, forcing officials to scramble to return to the paper ballots they abandoned after the Florida debacle of 2000.

In December alone, top election officials in Ohio and Colorado declared that widely used voting equipment is unfit for elections.

"Every system that is out there, one state or another has found that they are no good," said John Gideon of the advocacy group Voters Unite. "Everybody is starting to look at this now and starting to realize that there is something wrong."

The swing states of California, Ohio and Florida have found that security on touch-screen voting machines is inadequate. Testers have been able to disable the systems and even change vote totals.
Con't

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Thanks!

Obama Most Liberal
Submitted by mystic23 on Wed, 01/02/2008 - 11:21pm.
http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib.htm

Here ya go.

In reviewing it though, it puts Sen. Mikulski, my senator, at 88.8.

I'm not feeling this in regard to her votes in the 110th Congress. Remember this was based on 2006 and the 109th Congress when sessions were, at best, a day and half a week, and committee meetings over relevant issues were relegated to utility closets. The tourists put in more time in the Senate Chambers.

Lately, Obama has been voting "present." I provide a listing from his own site to allow his explanation.

http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/12/20/fact_check_present_votes...

generally content

QUESTION: When we talk about manufacturing of consent, whose consent is being manufactured?

CHOMSKY: To start with, there are two different groups, we can get into more detail, but at the first level of approximation, there's two targets for propaganda. One is what's sometimes called the political class. There's maybe twenty percent of the population which is relatively educated, more or less articulate, plays some kind of role in decision-making. They're supposed to sort of participate in social life -- either as managers, or cultural managers like teachers and writers and so on. They're supposed to vote, they're supposed to play some role in the way economic and political and cultural life goes on. Now their consent is crucial. So that's one group that has to be deeply indoctrinated. Then there's maybe eighty percent of the population whose main function is to follow orders and not think, and not to pay attention to anything -- and they're the ones who usually pay the costs.

Most Americans “Very Satisfied” With Their Personal Lives

yup!

especially the people in airline waiting rooms!

ecstatic!

eya dada!

i love the equinox!

great skies lately up here.

Most Americans “Very Satisfied” With Their Personal Lives

CHOMSKY:

"That's true maybe of people in the Harvard faculty, but that's because for them conspiracy is a curse word.

If something comes along that you don't like, there are a few sort of four-letter words that you can use to push it out of the sphere of discussion.

If you were in a bar downtown, they might have different words, but if you're an educated person what you use are complicated words like conspiracy theory or Marxist.

It's a way of pushing unpleasant questions off the agenda so that we can continue in our own happy ideology."

Stunner! God Not a Republican

Citizen Lobbyist

Just in time for the Iowa caucuses, a new study shows that God isn’t actually a Republican. The study, released today in front of the headquarters of The American Israel Public Affairs Committee, God’s chosen lobbyists in Washington, DC, is sure to roil the Republican presidential race.

Among the field of candidates, a former Arkansas governor, Republican Mike Huckabee, has made his relationship with God a reason Iowans should vote for him in his quest for the highest political office in the United States. Enough Iowans have determined that Gov. Huckabee’s relationship with God qualifies him for higher office that he leads in the Iowa polls, even though, as the study notes, God is pretty clear on the point that only He can look into a man’s heart.

The study’s findings may cause Huckabee’s Republican supporters to reevaluate their support, say experts. While an endorsement from God carries a lot of weight with about a quarter of Iowa’s Republican voters, that was when it was assumed He is a Republican.

The polls findings shouldn’t be taken to suggest God is a Democrat, however, cautions the study’s chief author, theology professor Faith de Nos Padres. “God isn’t partisan in the least,” she said at the press conference announcing the study. “In fact,” she said, in what may be the study’s most important finding, “God doesn’t even care who the president of the United States is, let alone what party he or she may belong to. He also doesn’t care who the president of Russia is,” she continued, ” or the prime ministers of Britain or Israel or Iraq, for that matter.”.......

i love reading...

QUESTION: So would you say that the elite groups are not so much coordinated in producing the system as they are unanimous in protecting it?

CHOMSKY: There are matters on which they tend to be in overwhelming agreement. There are other matters on which there are internal differences. And in fact, when you investigate the media product, what you typically find is that on topics on which there is very broad consensus, there's no discussion. On topics where there's debate, there is discussion.

A dramatic recent case was the Multilateral Agreement on Investments [a proposed global economic treaty]. On that there was near-uniformity in the corporate sector, the government, the media component of the corporate sector, the international financial institutions. They were all in favor of this treaty, overwhelmingly. They all understood very well that the public is not going to like it, so for years they just kept it secret. On that issue, no discussion.

The same happened on NAFTA [the North American Free Trade Agreement]. The same sectors were overwhelmingly in favor, but they knew the population wasn't going to like it -- which in fact remained true right until the end. So they simply would never allow debate on it.

To their distress, the issue broke through because of popular activism and because of Ross Perot, who just made a fuss about it. So it was impossible to suppress it totally. And what happened then is extremely interesting. What happened is, the major press -- the New York Times, let's say -- simply never allowed it to be discussed. The labor movement, for example, had a position, but it was never allowed to be presented. The labor movement was condemned by curse words: it was "old-fashioned," "crude," "tough," "blundering," a long series of curse words. Here you have a consensus among the elite.

And this is true on many other issues. Let's take an international issue -- say, the Vietnam War. There's a pretense now -- the press like to pretend that they were opposing the war and being courageous. That's complete nonsense. If you look back, they supported the war overwhelmingly. I mean, not even a flicker of disagreement. And then when a debate did develop among the real power sectors as to whether it was worth pursuing or not -- like, is it costing us too much? -- at that point [the press] divided also. Some of them said yes, it's costing us too much. Others said it wasn't.

On the other hand, the position of the American population was never expressed. And we know what that position was. We have extensive polls. From about the time that they started being taken, the late '60s, into the early '90s, about 70 percent of the population said that the war was fundamentally wrong and immoral. Try to find that view anywhere in the press. I've been through it. The view of 70 percent of the population was inexpressible.

And it is not just in the media. Pretty much in the scholarly profession, intellectual journals, business sectors, and so on. There are some questions you don't ask, as was pointed out by George Orwell years ago. He wrote an essay, an important essay, maybe the most important one he ever wrote -- and it was not published, incidentally. It was the introduction to Animal Farm, which everybody's read in school. But you didn't read any introduction. The introduction was about censorship in England. He said, "Look, this is a satire about a totalitarian state, but we shouldn't be self-righteous -- it's not that different in free England." He said in free England there are many ways in which ideas that are unpopular will just not be able to be expressed. And he gave two ways. One, he said, is that the press is owned by wealthy men who have every reason not to want certain ideas to be expressed. And second, he said, if you have a good education, you have internalized the fact that there are some things it just wouldn't do to say.

One of the things it wouldn't do to say is that actions the United States government is taking might be fundamentally wrong or immoral. It just wouldn't do to say that. And it wouldn't do to think it. And if you're a well-educated, respectable type, it can't occur to your mind. For the 70 percent of the population who don't have the benefits of a good education, they can see it. Because it's obviously true. This is true on issue after issue, including unimportant issues.

Let's take an unimportant issue, namely the one that has dominated the news for the last year: the silly scandals in Washington. Now, they're an absolute obsession with elites. Educated elites across the spectrum have been completely obsessed with it. Journals, television, everything. The public was not interested; they wanted them to stop it a year ago. In fact, the split between public opinion and elite obsession became so extreme that it even aroused some commentary, which is unusual. But that was extremely clear. The elite could not get enough of the soft porn. And the public didn't care -- if they wanted soft porn they could find it somewhere else. And they wanted Congress and the executive to get on to some serious business. I mean, who cares if some guy had an affair?

ya, jim

Gotta be up in a few hours.

Good to read you!

Good stuff in here, too.

I think that, at the most general level, we should be seeking out forms of authority and domination, and challenging their legitimacy.

http://zena.secureforum.com/znet/chomsky/mc/mc-script-2.html

Orwell's Preface to Animal Farm

Harmony

We should find a way to get along and solve problems instead of making problems between us.

Somewhere inside each of us, we do care for one another. Let us use that and make a bridge.

USER NAV

Orwell's Preface to Animal Farm

goodun!

Orwell:

"Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness. A genuinely unfashionable opinion is almost never given a fair hearing, either in the popular press or in the highbrow periodicals."

we stand on the shoulders of giants...

from that chomps article

"Well, what are the major things, say, today? There are some that are being addressed in a way. The feminist movement is addressing some. The civil rights movement is addressing others. The one major one that's not being seriously addressed is the one that's really at the core of the system of domination, and that's private control over resources. And that means an attack on the fundamental structure of State capitalism. I think that's in order. That's not something far off in the future."

eya fer

some of us are cool and generous and loving.

that's the thing to hold onto.

night gang

love you all

ads like this one make me happy that I don't vote for a month

I'm living in Michigan.
Very soon I can vote in a primary that allows me to cast my lot only for:

Hillary Clinton
Mike Gravel
Chris Dodd
Dennis Kucinich (Who tried to withdraw but forgot to notarize his papers)
Uncommitted (Party hacks get to decide where my vote goes)
Write in vote (That the MDP will not count, so fuck 'em!)

What would you do if you were in this situation?

He will be available in January 2009

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Hahahahahahahahahaha

Kucinich Asks Supporters to Back Obama

Tuesday, January 1, 2008 6:00 PM

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DES MOINES, Iowa -- Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich on Tuesday asked his supporters to make rival Barack Obama their second choice if he doesn't meet a cutoff point for voting in Iowa's caucuses.

Kucinich, an Ohio congressman at the back of the pack of Democratic hopefuls, seemed to concede a loss in the caucuses. He said his recommendation was for "Iowa only."

"Senator Obama and I are competing in the New Hampshire primary next Tuesday, where I want to be the first choice of New Hampshire voters," Kucinich said in a statement.

Sam, do YOU think it's

Sam, do YOU think it's possible to reach across the aisle and make nice with today's Republicans? Do YOU think you can "negotiate" with giant corporations after taking their money? If you do, then vote for Obama on Feb. 5. If not, then vote for John Edwards. Very simple.

Hope you don't mind me pimping a diary here,

since I write so few of them

I wonder how old he is?

WfC

maybe Ken Blackwell is free

http://africa.reuters.com/top/news/usnBAN343021.html
Kenya's attorney general wants election probe
Thu 3 Jan 2008, 11:57 GMT

NAIROBI (Reuters) - Kenya's Attorney General Amos Wako said on Thursday there should be an independent investigation into vote results that led to President Mwai Kibaki's disputed re-election and unleashed riots nationwide.

"It is necessary ... that a proper tally of the valid certificates returned and confirmed should be undertaken immediately on a priority basis by an agreed and independent person or body," he said in a statement read on television.

maybe Kenneth Blackwell is free.

aside: what ken thinks of himself

http://tinyurl.com/2d4sjr {nice hat]

{and in in example of how to seem to say something and say nothing, Dana shows concern]
Kenya's political leaders must ``urge everyone to refrain from violence,'' White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said in Washington yesterday. ``The church fire exemplifies just how horrible violence in the aftermath of the election can be.''
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Jamesbennett

IT CAN’T HAPPEN HERE by Sinclair Lewis

IT CAN’T HAPPEN HERE by Sinclair Lewis
Book review by Jodey Bateman

While Doremus Jessup could be anybody, the identity of Buzz Windrip, the power-hungry senator who makes himself a dictator would be obvious to any American in 1935. Parallels are made in his

dictatorial control of his own un-named state with the career of Huey Long, senator from Louisiana. In 1935 Long had a mass organization, the Share the Wealth League, and was planning to challenge

Roosevelt for the Democratic nomination for the president in 1936. (While Lewis was writing his novel, Long was assassinated.)

The identity of the main ally of the fictional dictator would be equally obvious, Bishop Peter Paul Prang, the popular radio preacher who endorses Buzz Windrip’s campaign, is based on Father Charles

Coughlin, the most popular radio speaker of the thirties who had a weekly program on CBS in which he denounced President Roosevelt and the Jews for causing and perpetuating the depression. Father

Coughlin’s fans included the father of Pat Buchanan, a candidate for the Republican nomination for the president in the year 2000.

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Jamesbennett

It can't Happen Here -- zappa style

It can't Happen Here 0:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSHvjCrAybk

Zappa-It Can't Happen Here 9:xx [good movie]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONDI4yQS4E4

Help I'm a rock
Help I'm a rock
Help I'm [IRAQ]

George Bush's tribute to Frank Zappa!
to the tune Bobby Brown Goes Down lyric
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IlE8yAmW3E

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Jamesbennett

IOWA COVERAGE SPECIAL

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If you don't care what happens to America this year, then don't listen to Air America tonight, 8p - 1a ET!

Morning td

Hope you're well today
: )
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Jamesbennett

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Lucille

see you logged on -- got an update for us?
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Jamesbennett

when i say the old country mire i mean MY old country

South Africa is it, just to start the new year off without any confusion!!! my new country is USA--teeheeheehee!

Morning JB, everyone!!

Good to see WFC here. Wish he's come here more often!

Feeling a little better today. Was good to get back to work yesterday.

am done milking the fucking cows so i had some time to

walk over to the internet cafe and get my blogging on! as yourll know i am a greedy glutton for blogging!

Hey Lucille

I hope you had a wonderful vacation.
welcome back
One election at a time...

Lucille!

Are you coming back soon? Good morning tDarling.

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Where's Lucy ?!

helz to the NO!!! too much cow shit stinking up the fucking place. will be back end of next week end

Lucille!!!!

Missing you. When are you goming back to the 'New" country?

So I was right!?! South Africa?

Good morning tDarling

read up thread...Fernando its 16:15 here now so good afternoon...yup they use military time

So I was right!?!

yup sure were---enjoyed you describing it to the T...just got back from the coast and am looking as cute as i wanna be---sun tanned!!

So I have another week :-)

Mornin' ya'll!

Lucille

I would love to go to South Africa!!!

Update on local (SA0 politics when you get back please!

got an update for us

on what? have i answered your questions yet? yeah you were first to say SA? was that because of the lady smith black mambazo/paul simon song i was singing?

Guess what

Fred and Dennis have in common...

Hint....

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Did you ever get to see

Victoria Falls? I understand it is breathtaking!

Wexler --Cheney Impeachment: Taking the Next Step

Cheney Impeachment: Taking the Next Step
Congressman Robert Wexler to me

-- email message --

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Update on local

i dont know much but the little i see and hear causing big big fights between myself and family....ooooh boy they make me so fucking mad with this fucking Zuma and Mbeki crap...(please let me have a calm few minutes with you) thanks,

Victoria Falls

not SA---mugabe country/fucking shame, what a beaut in a monsters back yard!

We'll wait til you get back

to discuss that, Lucille.

How're the kids enjoying the trip?

another week

fuck off!!

kids enjoying the trip

toniD word to big bird you have not seen happier kids---they did not know how to swim, now the little one is jumping from the highest of rocks into the deep side...(my poor nervous system), the older girly shoots pool like no body's business...whips the fathers ass on time (too funny) my eldest daughter completed college and came down to join us will be having a party for her tomorrow and my son who turns 21years so have a busy one tomorrow, thank God for my family though they help out a lot...

L -- Do they have "Bag Balm" in SA?

you know -- for the chapped hands from all the milking.

Have a nice evening there -- sun just about to rise here.

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Jamesbennett

Ewwwww... aint dat sum shit

“We’re a nation united that stands behind our fighting men and women. We honor them and respect them,” Romney said at a conference center here. “We love what they’ve done for us, and we also love a president who has kept us safe these last six years.” - Romney

Romney loves him some George. That f'tard will say or eat absolutely anything.

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That's great Lucille!

So happy the kids are there with you. Creating a memory you will be talking about for ever!

That is one long Mf'ing flight you took to get there!

chapped hands from all the milking.

i have always been milking now..even in NYC---(milking grover) so i do know how to take care of that problem....oh he (grover) is so proud to be south african its to funny (he is american)

one long Mf'ing flight

man oh man if i tell you...by the time i got here the knees were my elbows my body just was in complete collapse mode....seriously i am getting to old for this shit man!!!

Sams on for randi

in about 2.5 hours

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Jamesbennett

Sams on for randi

boo hoo hoo...give me the low low in a nut shell...cnn here is full of shit so is al jeezera so is the bbc...no fucking news man nada nothing---quickly please my brother is heading this way to threaten me again---

Are you closer to

Cape Town or Jo'berg?

an internet cafe somewhere in the world.

teeheehee you are too funny dan!

live in gauteng (new name for jo burgh) teeheehee

got sun burnt in durban though now am back home!!

Hooray for Kansas!

Lucy ! !

Why you run away ?
I'll let you play in the band !

Ricky ;)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

man fuck I SAID TALK TO ME SHIT!!

say something quickly my brother is pointing his crutch at me...saying something about it being the last time he talks to me---oh we gotta go home or something to that affect.....

I'll let you play in the band !

band of brothers....Rules my love---HAPPY!!!! balls rolling ok?"

#comment-120000 -- what is the matter?

chapped hands from all the milking.
Submitted by Lucille on Thu, 01/03/2008 - 9:34am.
http://www.samsedershow.com/node/2076#comment-120000
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that's one-hundred-and-twenty-thousand comments.
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Lord Polonius: What do you read, my lord?

Hamlet: Words, words, words.

Lord Polonius: What is the matter, my lord?

Hamlet: Between who?

Lord Polonius: I mean, the matter that you read, my lord.

(Hamlet II, ii, 191-195)
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Jamesbennett

Today is the Iowa Caucus, Lucille

Wall to wall coverage of all the candidates running for prez here.

So far it's a dead heat on both sides of the aisle.

Where?

Sams on for randi
new
Submitted by jbenet on Thu, 01/03/2008 - 9:36am.

in about 2.5 hours

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Jamesbennett

oh for fuck sake

later yourll....geez! never a minutes rest here for real..now i have to go and clean the fucking slaughtered cows interstines (for tomorrows party)....geez! get me on the fucking plane already for real...at least i can work hard for Samuel----

So far it's a dead heat

thanks toniD am checking that out all the way...GO OBAMA/EDWARDS!!!

Later Lucille!

Travel back safe!!

We all Miss You Lucille ! :)

Sorry..

Stay safe !
Oh and,Happy New Year ! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Titles from HAMLET

Titles from HAMLET

http://www.barbarapaul.com/shake/hamlet2.html

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Jamesbennett

That was hilarious

I haven't milked a cow in 30 years. Good luck with the cow guts Lucille, I guess.

USER NAV

here

Where?
Submitted by zeek on Thu, 01/03/2008 - 9:56am.

that's what it says at the top of page
http://www.samsedershow.com/

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Jamesbennett

Why does Bush want to help

Why does Bush want to help China and hostile nations?
by Chris in Paris · 1/03/2008 04:41:00 AM ET · Link
Discuss this post here: Comments (37) · reddit · FARK ·· Digg It!

I understand the commercial benefits to American companies, but why does Bush want to provide high tech help to China, who may then sell to Syria and Iran? Is Bush on America's side or not? How does this sale benefit the country and our long term national security? More on the Bush change, after the jump.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/01/why-does-bush-want-to-help-china-and....

What does one do with clean cows intestines?

Lucille on Thu, 01/03/2008 - 9:56am.
now i have to go and clean the ... cows interstines (for tomorrows party)
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I can only imagine what that party is going to be like.
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Jamesbennett

fernando you haven't milked a cow!

Lucille was talking about cleaning out the intestines (where shits get stored) - not the same as milking, get your anatomy straight please and where is crank bait on this?

can only imagine what that party is like

and this old country we can't fathom gets another layer of mystery

I can only imagine what that party is going to be like.

lest we think lucille has the market cornered on unique party dishes, consider:

Haggis is a traditional Scottish dish.

There are many recipes, most of which have in common the following ingredients: sheep's 'pluck' (heart, liver and lungs), minced with onion, oatmeal, suet, spices, and salt, mixed with stock, and traditionally boiled in the animal's stomach for approximately three hours.

Haggis somewhat resembles stuffed intestines (pig intestines otherwise known as chitterlings or the kokoretsi of traditional Greek cuisine), sausages and savoury puddings of which it is among the largest types. As the 2001 English edition of the Larousse Gastronomique puts it, "Although its description is not immediately appealing, haggis has an excellent nutty texture and delicious savoury flavour." (p592)

And there is a soup/stew

served at Easter time in Greece that is the innards of sheep. I can remember my mother and dad cleaning these innards to make that soup of which I never partook. The smell while they were cleaning the intestines was awful and the thought of eating that was disgusting to me.

intestines of young baby cow a delicacy in italy too

i just remembered, it's called "pagliata" and it's an ancient Roman dish, the intestine of a baby cow slaughtered before the baby had any chance to eat any solid food other than mama cow's milk - supposed to make the shit taste better i suppose - still hawked as an expensive delicacy in the better restaurants of the capital city - wow I had forgotten that

there's also another dish called "trippa" also specific to Rome but eaten other places as well, this is the older cow intestine, cleaned out and cooked slowly for a long time, it's chewey and tasty - i like this dish, most italians do - nobody gives it much thought

What about Pagliacci?

chewing fernando for mixing intestines with boobs

sorry nando I hadn't read the rest of Lucille's posts yet, where she mentions milking, reading backwards, like an ass

well, at least now we know where this mythical old country is, interesting

grischa pagliacci have nothing to do with pagliata

pagliaccio (singular male noun) pagliacci (plural of same) means clown/clowns

same word root "paglia" means straw nothing else - not sure how that relates to the baby calf

AGAIN -- Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

Fascist America, in 10 easy steps {Naomi did an hour on Randi yesterday ?live?]

From Hitler to Pinochet and beyond, history shows there are certain steps that any would-be dictator must take to destroy constitutional freedoms. And, argues Naomi Wolf, George Bush and his administration seem to be taking them all

Tuesday April 24, 2007
The Guardian

Last autumn, there was a military coup in Thailand. The leaders of the coup took a number of steps, rather systematically, as if they had a shopping list. In a sense, they did. Within a matter of days, democracy had been closed down: the coup leaders declared martial law, sent armed soldiers into residential areas, took over radio and TV stations, issued restrictions on the press, tightened some limits on travel, and took certain activists into custody.

They were not figuring these things out as they went along. If you look at history, you can see that there is essentially a blueprint for turning an open society into a dictatorship. That blueprint has been used again and again in more and less bloody, more and less terrifying ways. But it is always effective. It is very difficult and arduous to create and sustain a democracy - but history shows that closing one down is much simpler. You simply have to be willing to take the 10 steps.

Talk by Naomi Wolf - The End of America youtube

and
mp3 of same

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just kidding about the intestines party - playing along with L's writing style.
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Jamesbennett

Pag/Trav

It sure was a good opera, though.

new thread

up there :)

edwards offshore hedge fund ships jobs overseas

from iowa paper quad-city times

DES MOINES — A new ad praising Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards for his positions on behalf of American workers is coming under fire by rival Bill Richardson’s campaign, which says Edwards invested in a fund they allege has a role in the shutdown of Newton-based manufacturer Maytag.

The television ad by Working 4 Working Americans touts Edwards’ plans to end tax breaks for companies that move American jobs offshore.

The political organization is backed by the members of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners, which has endorsed Edwards in the primary fight.

But Richardson’s Iowa campaign director, Robert Becker, said the ad ignores the role of management firm Fortress Investment Group, where Edwards worked as an adviser, in closing Maytag’s Newton plant. Fortress held stock in Whirlpool, the company that bought out Maytag and shut the company’s doors.

“John Edwards was paid nearly half a million dollars by the same hedge fund at the time the Maytag plant was shuttered, and he had $16 million of his own fortune invested there,” Becker said in a statement. “Can John Edwards be a champion for jobs in Newton, Iowa, when he works for and invests in a hedge fund that helped eliminate those same jobs? If anything, Edwards probably owes those families an explanation.”

Dan Leistikow, spokesman for Edwards’ Iowa campaign, said Edwards had no role in the stock purchases, most of which happened after he stopped working for Fortress and make up less than one-tenth of 1 percent of Whirlpool. And he pointed to Edwards’ support of Maytag employees who lost their jobs.

“No one has been stronger in standing up for Maytag workers than John Edwards, which is why so many of them are supporting him,” Leistikow said. “As president, he will never sign trade deals like NAFTA that put the profits of corporations ahead of the interests of workers like those who lost their jobs in Newton.”

http://www.qctimes.com/articles/2007/12/20/news/elections/doc476a00a9be4...