Iowa

...fucking Green is almost writing Edwards off, only talking about his legacy that Clinton and Obama can carry further.

(actually, of COURSE I believe it. what am I saying?)

God Bless America!

did better than Dodd. pffft, sheeple. Dodd is the man.

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Oh, the irony.

:D

they're keeping you up late--hope you traded in the Zin for something drinkable...

maybe Edwards can win the nomination..

is there another southern democrat to run as VP ?

anybody?

and unbridled enthusiasm.

That's what led to Billy Mumphrey's downfall.

Obama Girl Returns for Iowa!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENCRu-2d35g

she denied my myspace request!
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Jamesbennett

If God made the Huckster
Submitted by novacaine on Thu, 01/03/2008 - 10:46pm.
#1, then what or who made mitt r. #2? :)
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Joseph Smith.

...at the moment, I'm fond of Florida's Wexler...

www.wexlerwantshearings.com

more votes for repubs than dems
iowa's not that red? are they?

gives.

http://komando.com

Time to get rid of the odd balls !

--pour another glass for Daddy! it's a late night...!

out riding the bike?

.=.=.=.=.=
Jamesbennett

you need to get out more.. ;)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

why are there tens of thousands
Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 01/03/2008 - 10:55pm.
more votes for repubs than dems
iowa's not that red? are they?
===========================

bush won iowa by 10,000 votes over kerry in 2004.

nader "robbed" kerry of 5,000

so yes, iowa does vote republican recently.

voters were voting 2-1 democrat
those numbers posted on the thread header
don't show that at all
Obama 906 votes vs
Huckabell 31,508

try using google
Submitted by red on Thu, 01/03/2008 - 11:00pm.

Yeah but no matter how you look at it Red Huckabee = Dole

and Chris Matthews Sucks.

They hate us for our freedom?
www.ilostthewar.com

I have been island hopping in Hawaii! Had to come home for the election kick-off. It's going to be a fun year!

MSNBC also say Dems got twice the caucus "votes". The chart is misleading.

USER NAV

Ya gotta like that.

They hate us for our freedom?
www.ilostthewar.com

Nobody cares. You have zero credibility.

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Good to the Christians getting active in politics once again...
Submitted by Part of the 97 ... on Thu, 01/03/2008 - 10:49pm.
God Bless America!
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War Dog, you dickhead, you don't even HAVE a religious belief. You've said as much more than once.

Go fuck yourself in a hot tub filled with trite inconsistencies and unfettered, wind-blown "me-too!" pleas that are pathetic attempts to be included with the "in" crowd.

Bait: "What are your heartfelt convictions?"
War Dog: "I don't have any heartfelt convictions."
Bait: "Why not?"
War Dog: "Because I'd have to string sentences into paragraphs to defend them."

...and then people having I.Q.'s sporting three digits would squash your infantile logic into the primordial ooze from whence it came.

Dodd would be a better president then any republican in the race!

They hate us for our freedom?
www.ilostthewar.com

Gonna buy me a radio station and,run it into
the ground..For my Ego !

Sounds like the start to a bad Country Western tune..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Democratic Party process

The process used by the Democrats is more complex than the Republican Party caucus process. Each precinct divides its delegate seats among the candidates in proportion to caucus goers' votes.

Participants indicate their support for a particular candidate by standing in a designated area of the caucus site (forming a "preference group"). An area may also be designated for undecided participants. Then, for roughly 30 minutes, participants try to convince their neighbors to support their candidates. Each preference group might informally deputize a few members to recruit supporters from the other groups and, in particular, from among those undecided. Undecided participants might visit each preference group to ask its members about their candidate.

After 30 minutes, the electioneering is temporarily halted and the supporters for each candidate are counted. At this point, the caucus officials determine which candidates are "viable". Depending on the number of county delegates to be elected, the "viability threshold" can be anywhere from 15% to 25% of attendees. For a candidate to receive any delegates from a particular precinct, he or she must have the support of at least the percentage of participants required by the viability threshold. Once viability is determined, participants have roughly another 30 minutes to "realign": the supporters of inviable candidates may find a viable candidate to support, join together with supporters of another inviable candidate to secure a delegate for one of the two, or choose to abstain. This "realignment" is a crucial distinction of caucuses in that (unlike a primary) being a voter's "second candidate of choice" can help a candidate.

When the voting is closed, a final head count is conducted, and each precinct apportions delegates to the county convention. These numbers are reported to the state party, which counts the total number of delegates for each candidate and reports the results to the media. Most of the participants go home, leaving a few to finish the business of the caucus: each preference group elects its delegates, and then the groups reconvene to elect local party officers and discuss the platform.

The delegates chosen by the precinct then go to a later caucus, the county convention, to choose delegates to the district convention and state convention. Most of the delegates to the Democratic National Convention are selected at the district convention, with the remaining ones selected at the state convention. Delegates to each level of convention are initially bound to support their chosen candidate but can later switch in a process very similar to what goes on at the precinct level; however, as major shifts in delegate support are rare, the media declares the candidate with the most delegates on the precinct caucus night the winner, and relatively little attention is paid to the later caucuses.--

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_Caucus

i thought Sam said
new
Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 01/03/2008 - 11:03pm.
voters were voting 2-1 democrat
those numbers posted on the thread header
don't show that at all
Obama 906 votes vs
Huckabell 31,508

Sam discussed this earlier tonite. As I remember the explanation, Republicans meet at the caucas and cast an individual vote when they get there. Democrats meet in a caucas and decide collectively for a winner. So 906 is not votes, it's the number of caucases (sic?)

dear mr. president
Submitted by jbenet on Thu, 01/03/2008 - 10:36pm.
Pink sings "Dear Mr. President" on Jimmy Kimmel Live 4-10-07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45IZWvPdA-A
.=.=.=.=.=
Jamesbennett
*******

Hee ! ;)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

from the race tonight. He's on now.

Dodd also is droping out.

The Democratic and Republican Parties Vote Differently in Iowa
Submitted by CeeCee on Thu, 01/03/2008 - 11:16pm--------------------------------
now it finally makes sense-thanks CC

AAR live

actually said something nice about Sam.

Good move Greenie.

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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Seder and Bender not letting Mark Green

TALK

HA
WOOT!!

C9

Bummer ! :(

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

That's it? Lose Mark Green and let Sam stay!

number of delegates, not caucases. 927 actually. How many actual votes this represents I don't know.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#IA

finally on AAR (not just on MSNBC and KO)
hehehe i noticed they didn't ask Lionel his opinion

is Green finally seeing the light??

Mark Greens Ego..vs

Intelligent Political discourse !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Dodd also is droping out.
Submitted by MMRules on Thu, 01/03/2008 - 11:26pm.
Bummer ! :(
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I agree. Dodd has a voice that could have kept the discussion on a substantive track.

That was funny, MM.. :)

Out too.

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Democratic Party process The
Submitted by CharlieNine on Thu, 01/03/2008 - 11:11pm.

906...
new
Submitted by ghettodefender on Thu, 01/03/2008 - 11:28pm.
number of delegates, not caucases. 927 actually. How many actual votes this represents I don't know.

...imho, it's why this is best blog.

http://www.endgamethebook.org/

Endgame wins Derrick Jensen the Press Action Person of the Year award.

Having long laid waste our own sanity, and having long forgotten what it feels like to be free, most of us too have no idea what it’s like to live in the real world. Seeing four salmon spawn causes me to burst into tears. I have never seen a river full of fish. I have never seen a sky darkened for days by a single flock of birds. (I have, however, seen skies perpetually darkened by smog.)

As with freedom, so too the extraordinary beauty and fecundity of the world itself:

It’s hard to love something you’ve never known. It’s hard to convince yourself to fight for something you may not believe has ever existed.

--from Endgame, Volume I

Could you believe it when Green asked Sam who the "They Was", when Sam said the media would bury Clinton. I thought Sam handled it well though.

Why Mark Green has the big bucks!?

Sorry, perhaps, I need to turn AAR off and go to bed.

This is politics, SWEETIE....

Greens got his head up his own ass so far...............
He fires and demotes these guys,then brings them back for this..
Who cares what Green thinks ? What a Mullet !

The Dude was for Crank.. Hee.. ;)

But,Cranks right !
"Dodd has a voice that could have kept the discussion on a substantive track".

Sorry Fernando.. :(
I really like Dodd too !

Fernando,Step Away From The Tequila !! ;)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Letterman: "I am the only talk show host who sports facial hair...if you don't count The View.
----
For people like me, that is a funny joke. For rabid feminists, it is a cheap shot at a cultural meme devoid of substance...and if you are like me, that makes it even funnier.

Substance, Crank?
Submitted by Alice on Thu, 01/03/2008 - 11:41pm.
This is politics, SWEETIE....
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FREE PARIS!

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/01/03/dncc-goes-with-qwest/

DNCC Goes With Qwest
By: Nicole Belle on Thursday, January 3rd, 2008 at 1:02 PM - PST

http://www.samsedershow.com/node/2032#comment-118433

http://www.samsedershow.com/node/2032#comment-118429

A note from dr:

(Fill in disgusted rant here.)

Thank you.

Hi ,

My name is C. T. Weber and I am the North State Chair of Peace and Freedom Party of California. I understand that Kevin Akin has responded to you earlier. The purpose of a primary election in California is to allow the voters of a party to decide which candidates they want to face the candidates of the other parties in November. Because Peace and Freedom Party is small, its voters could be overwhelmed by others in our primary. The voters voted to open the primaries to everyone several years ago, but the U. S. Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional. The general election is where all voters are allowed to vote for the candidates of their choice from among those that each party puts forward. I hope that between Kevin and my remarks you have a better understanding of our primary system.

Could you please let me know what phone number or e-mail address you previously contacted. We certainly want to be in communication with those who are trying to contact us.

Yours for peace and freedom,

C. T. Weber, Sacramento, California

(answer to a post a couple sheets ago)

ToniD, that `other guy' is little Stevie Sherrill -- a guy who somehow got his name on the cover of Sam's book.

LMAO! :)

Paris is everything but FREE.

She's a business woman.

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No Mike Papantonio

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What is that guys hang-up on War Dog? You have millions and millions of good Christian Conservative who are just getting started tonight. Just because one of them kicked your ass, you want to call them all War Dog. Hahahahahahahahaha. Did it leave a mark? I would say so!

Toni posted it and I kept it:

Dammit..I can't find it now... :(

After I posted I thought that's who it might be.

I never got the chance to meet him and saw so few photos of him, I forgot.

Besides, I am getting CRS desease!

I may have been `right', but (as usual) I lacked a tactful way to communicate it...

1 thing I admire about you is your idealism. Unfortunately, idealism doesn't always work w/the caucus process...sometimes the process demands that we support a candidate who isn't our first/best choice (just because your favorite doesn't have a chance in hell of winning)...

btw...for the record...I think most people call Kucinich "unelectable" because he's short and not-so-good-looking.

and that's fucked up. Ideas should count for a lot more.

XXXXXX,

In California we have a long tradition of ticket-splitting, and practically everyone votes for candidates of more than one party at times. Being a registered voter in a party is really rather different from being a "member" who is active, gives time and money, etc. As I mentioned, many people switch parties in order to be able to vote in particular primaries, which gives an indication that registering in a party is not quite the big decision that it is in some other states. This is one reason why I do suggest that you register in our party in order to vote in the primary - no one will hold it against you if you want to re-register later.

As with so many other things, election law has little to do with how things "ought to be." For example, we really ought to have proportional representation, so that a party with support from, say, ten percent of the electorate would get ten percent of the seats in the legislature. As with all the other laws, the big-money folks have an entirely disproportionate say. And to that, they say NO! They don't want working people to have any say in anything.

Now that you have an actual response from the Peace and Freedom Party, I hope you will post that fact as well.

You may want to attend one of our presidential forum events being held starting a week from tomorrow. They will be in six cities up and down California. In what area do you live?

-Kevin

is that he's evagelical, he ain't got nothin...

Jim Jones was evangelical...

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that by tauting Pho-ckabee's christian values they are saying everyone else's values are inferior.

Looks can be changed when you know a person...but yeah I know from reading about studies that short men do not get elected.

For Dennis to SEEM to be a Third party and yet have gotten himself into the Democratic party is a huge feat I think..

I know what you're saying..but I have played that way before and I'm trying something new this time...

I mean really...they may not have a chance in hell..but ..their platform speaks to me and to imagine C.T. and Kevin of the P&F party sitting in bed emailing me from either end of CA is HOT.. ;)

Seriously...could you imagine Pelosi writing..Dear Chubby at this hour? Maybe Cindy Sheehan would..but not Nancy or Barb...

because they felt upset (forget the wording) at the last candidates they put their weight behind..and they want to elect one of their own this time.

a chance, I'm just making one of my grandiose blanket statements.

Everyone always loves my grandiose wide-sweeping generalizations.

that Rudy fared so poorly!

YAY!

Drug Advertisement Disclaimers
Submitted by Crank Bait on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 12:17am.
Don't take Expirex if you have a liver. You shouldn't ----------------------------------
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you forgot the part that says

'don't handle it touch it or think of touching it if you must touch it wear gloves if it breaks in your hand call911'

and pho is pronounced "fah"...

Wow - smart - they should have never ran in the first place. (Just my opinion)

hee, hee, hee!!!

Hi guys. Long time, no typey.

I can't believe how badly the press - particularly the so-called 'liberal' press has trashed Edwards. It's because he's the only one with a real shot at winning who is anti-corporate. THAT's exactly what we need. No more USA Incorporated. Obama's okay, but frankly his record stinks and his plan is about 'negotiating' with the corporations such as the Health Insurance companies. That's the same bullshit that Hillary is advocating. No! No compromise on this. Universal Health Insurance. For all. It's totally doable. If you're not in the insurance company pockets that is.

You are so funny..I really missed you...

Then I temporarily didn't miss you...(this afternoon)

Now I miss you again. :)

It said, "Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah! We won!"

As in , we got the 2 progressive candidates in first and second place.

Of course, they won't say, but it seems to me that they would really rather Edwards win [and so would I] than Obama. But either way they are celebrating Hillary coming in third. With all that dough too!

Ha!

Submitted by Catharine on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 12:30am.
...That's the same bullshit that Hillary is advocating. No! No compromise on this...
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(Catharine: Mincing words, as always.)

Somewhere today..NPR I would guess..said that Edwards had this sought after "populist message"...and when I left work he was 1% ahead in Iowa...

Anyway..blah blah blah...welcome back.. :)

"unelectable" because he's short -
Submitted by Alice on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 12:17am
to imagine C.T. and Kevin sitting in bed emailing me from either end of CA is HOT.. ;)
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CT is about 100 yrs old and kev's a double for Rush

sorry to burst your bubble

while spending a third as much as Obama...half as much as Hillary!

and...he didt it BY HIMSELF!!!

didn't ride Bill Clinton's or Oprah's popularity!

imagine if the press gave him decent coverage!!!

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 12:24am.
"...or a desire to hump Leggo's" is my favorite part.

Not John Dean, right.. ;)

I hate to sound like an NPR parrott, but it's all I have on my car radio unless I listen to KVML an that is not happening, unless I am in the modd to cull BS from Hannity or Rush to spread here...

NPR said I ♥ Huckabee people said they were outspent 20 - 1 by Romney - and he used his own money I heard in more than one place and that had to hurt...

That John Smith joke was funny too, Crank...

sorry alice
Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 12:34am.

-LaLaLa...I can't hear Anonymous...-

(kidding..)

What was unconstitutional I wonder?
new
Submitted by Alice on Thu, 01/03/2008 - 11:57pm.

Noted on a blog
"is unconstitutional, according to the U.S. Supreme Court, because it forces a political party to allow non-members to choose its nominee, violating First Amendment rights to associate freely."
More at...
http://www.blueoregon.com/2005/09/fear_and_loathi.html

More at...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_primary

Alice: That John Smith joke was funny too, Crank...
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Phew! I was beginning to think that history jokes were a bad idea.

did it have something to do with Pocahontas?

I love a good Pocahontas joke!

while spending a third as much as Obama...half as much as Hillary!

and...he didt it BY HIMSELF!!!

didn't ride Bill Clinton's or Oprah's popularity!

imagine if the press gave him decent coverage!!!
-Chubby

***

You better fuckin' believe it!

[Sorry about being so... vague... about my feelings.]

Humor That Ain't Too Deep
Submitted by Crank Bait on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 12:37am.
Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 12:24am.
"...or a desire to hump Leggo's" is my favorite part.
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yeah that was pretty good but the one about don't touch it was a real one for a drug that men take for baldness on the commercial it said something like if you're pregnant or thinking of getting pregnant
don't touch it if it breaks in your hand call poison control...somthing like that pretty scary who would take something so obviously dangerous or the ones that warn of anal leakage....puullleeeze!

NPR said that the Born Agains went for They ♥ Huckabee

Submitted by Alice on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 12:21am.

___________________

Huckabee was probably the biggest winner in Iowa.

Huckabee did it without that much money.

Obama did make history in Iowa. Obama's team was able to get out the vote.

Will Obama be able to get new voters in other states?

Both Obama and Huckabee were winners with the youngest voters in Iowa.

-because it forces a political party to allow non-members to choose its nominee, violating First Amendment rights to associate freely.-

You rule, CeeCee, thank you!

That seems backwards...when thinking about my own situation...I feel like this way is stifling my freedom.

Or,a Rethug !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

(don't mention Euripides)

Shhhhhh...Anonymous...
Submitted by Alice on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 12:41am.
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ok I'll fess up before I leave I was kidding
now back to your original fantasies

I just had to....I'm still laughing tho
hehehehe

later sederites
-the good anon

and Edwards took a third of the votes...
new
Submitted by Chubby Bubba on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 12:36am.
while spending a third as much as Obama...half as much as Hillary!

and...he didt it BY HIMSELF!!!

didn't ride Bill Clinton's or Oprah's popularity!

imagine if the press gave him decent coverage!!!

...I think you have a future in Public Relations and I think you should pass this on to Edward's campaign. Really.

I bet they already know.

Total Voter Turnout (approximate)
356,000

Percentage of total vote
24.5% Obama
20.5% Edwards
19.8% Clinton
11.4% Huckabee (R)

http://www.groupnewsblog.net/

will be calling Edwards `Breck-girl' with renewed vigor...

It's disgusting how the media broadcasts the smears againt the dems. really, the average american knows nothing about dems but the rightwing bullshit-take...

conversely, we know NOTHING about the Republican candidates...aside from what a `good Christian' they might be

(except, of course, Rudy)

Good guestion...

-and...tomorrow the MSN...
Submitted by Chubby Bubba on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 12:55am.-

That is what pablum it all gets turned into...

*

I just wonder because young people don't even like Maddonna, so why Oprah?

Gravel says he's not really dropping out, demands retraction from Olberman.

And you thought the comedy writers were on strike ...

--Josh Marshall

I'll probably be ejected out of the fan club for this... ;)

Thanks for the good insight, information and discourse. Love you all.

I just discovered the previous owner of this desk used it to hide thier used chewing gum...the underside of the drawer is covered with dozens of wads of the stuff...

what kind of persons sticks used gum to their own furniture?

Probably will end up votiung for Pho-ckabee?

I sent those links and my concerns to C.T. and Kevin. I really appreciate that you even found them...I was really curious...

Thank you and Love to you as well... xoxo :)

Question:

Isn't she running dangerously close to violating the law regarding going on her program and endorsing and announcing that she will campaign with Obama?

Maybe not. I didn't hear her speak about it, just generally heard the news when it happened.

They can't run the movies that various actors like Thompson or Schwarzenegger are in when they are running. Supposedly.

I mean, I don't really care, I suppose.

Just curious.

I haven't tuned in for a long while. When I last heard, it seemed like he was leaning towards Obama.

I don't know...all I do know is I won't vote for anyone who sticks thier used gum under my desk!

CeeCee or Star Vox could tell us, I'm sure...

*

I gave a kid 20.00 dollars today after he told me about how he saw a kid at the skate park had french fries and how he and all the other kids wanted them..and so he said he told the kid I'll do this trick if you give me some fries...he said he did the trick and fell and hit the fries kid and the fried went everywhere and all the kids went after the fries on the ground...I asked him if he got an allowance and he said no - he is like 11 I think...Anyway..P thinks that was bad of me to give him money...and if I was a man giving it to a boy I would be considered pedophile...

Plus I heard that the local newspaper called my job to find out more about the "feral cat story"

I'm fucked.

that's all I know.

-They can't run the movies that various actors like Thompson or Schwarzenegger are in when they are running. Supposedly.-

Seems like it would be...and what's the dif between having a candidate on your show and what she did? And if you're going to have one on your show, shouldn't you have them all?

CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Do you ever wonder if God loves Brad Pitt and Paris Hilton more than he loves you, as seemingly evidenced by those celebrities' charmed lives? Do you suspect that Tiger Woods' fame and
Bill Gates' wealth mean that fate is friendlier to them that it is to you? If so, you're in for a major surprise, Capricorn. Events in 2008 will bring you big deliveries of the next best things to riches and fame. You'll get more proof than you've had in a long time that God and fate adore you.

unfortunately, you care too much.

but, just because the paper called about the cat-thing doesn't mean you're in trouble. It really depends on the spin they put on it.

You might consider contacting the reporter? It might be a good opportunity to say something like, "I know I shouldn't have been feeding those cats on public property (or whatever the problem was), I just love cats and couldn't bear to see them hungery and suffering. I undrstand I was wrong and I won't do it again.

We are members of the most destructive culture ever to exist. Our assault on the natural world, on indigenous and other cultures, on women, on children, on all of us through the possibility of nuclear suicide and other means--all these are unprecedented in their magnitude and ferocity."

So began my first book, Listening to the Land . Why do we act as we do? What are sane and effective responses to outrageously destructive behavior? What will it take for us to stop the horrors that characterize our way of being? My work and life revolve around these questions.

Now I'm thinking that when the woman who will need to respond to this voicemail, (if the reporter left her one, it was another boss who covered for me and said I can't answer you, so and so will be back on the 8th), I will let her know that I think that she would be best to say, "What story? It's been handled." and that is all..

Does that make me a spin meister :)

got to get up and catch a bus to school tomorrow...

nite all!

they haven't moved to the new feeding place...I saw one stalking a bird yersterday and today one was going after a squeek toy it thought sounded like a bird that a man and dog were playing with nearby - I even thought the toy was a bird..

Anyway..whatever...it's easy to get in trouble in smaller towns I guess..if I were still in LA or Chicago it would be different,l I would be one of many instead of one of a few...

and Blog...

xoxo

you are feeding at the library?

that's the big fuferall?

2 cats?

I thought there had to be at least a dozen!

again!

chewing gum...cats...Huckabee...

geez, what a world!

I know a lot of you came to this email list through a shared desire to return our nation to one that respects the rule of law, and I want to make one thing clear to all of you:

The fight to restore the Constitution and stop retroactive immunity does not end with my Presidential campaign. FISA will come back in a few weeks and my pledge to filibuster ANY bill that includes retroactive immunity remains operative.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/4/05318/33817/985/430233

Fucking sickening huh...?

-Naked Alice who hopes to be able to see the captcha clearly

K's Choice-Not An Addict
Got it from jbenet..Great tune ! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

a shared desire to return our nation to one that respects the rule of law

:)

Don't know the name or band, will tell you if I've heard it when I can hear it tomorrow..

Sweetzles.. xo

http://www.green960.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=randirhodes.xml

Ah,I mean yesterday.. ;)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

and...tomorrow the MSN...
Submitted by Chubby Bubba on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 12:55am.
will be calling Edwards `Breck-girl' with renewed vigor...

It's disgusting how the media broadcasts the smears againt the dems
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yes i'm curious how WILL the MSM be spinning
the huge democratic voter turnout in Iowa 220,000+ dems to just100,000+ repukes, well lets see they will give more coverage to repukes ..it'll start slowly but it'll build then they will have to villify Obama and edwards as well as Hillary: already according to David Gergen when Bill campaigns for Hill in NHampshire it will become a referendum on his presidency hmmmmhow does one change the entire history of a past president.....only the MSM could do that

this one guy was saying 'oh boy! Edwards campaign didn't win so what WILL they do NOW? their plan all along was they had to win Iowa or he'd have to drop out and were we surprised he didn't drop out!'
since when was their plan to drop out if he didn't win what an ass!
so then he goes on to say 'his(Edwards) handlers some very experienced
democratic advisors from past dem campaigns now say its on to plan B'
uh and this is some revolutionary newstory? uhhh isn't that what all the campaigns are doing now on to plan B ?
all except Obama
come on this guy has a job on a national news channel? WTF
and all he can come up with is the candidate didn't drop out and its on to plan B....dear God........no wonder this country is so uninformed

"How The Iowa Caucuses Work"

Informative diary series.

Link:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/3/151238/8145/520/428664

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I recommend listening to Obama's speech.

Link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqoFwZUp5vc

http://www.airamerica.com/node/6145#new
wants to goof on M.Greenie.. ;)

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Hobson's choice is often misused not to mean a false illusion of choice,[citation needed] but simply a choice between two undesirable options. For example, if the horse in the stall nearest the door is in poor shape, the traditional usage of Hobson's choice becomes the more common use, since having an unhealthy horse and having no horse at all are both undesirable. Such a choice between two options of nearly equal value is more properly called a dilemma.

On occasion, writers use the term "Hobbesian choice" instead of "Hobson's choice", not confusing philosopher Thomas Hobbes for Thomas Hobson, but referring to a specific Hobson's choice offered by Hobbes. The philosopher's famous choice is of an armed robber's "your money or your life", with the serious claim that the person making the choice is fully free.

so it looks like we got us a horse race. on to the next stop. morning all.

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After the final Iowa votes are tallied, candidates will turn their attention to a rapid-fire succession of state contests beginning with New Hampshire's primary on Tuesday.

After that it's on to South Carolina, where Republicans hold their primary on Jan. 19 and Democrats hold theirs on Jan. 26.

Other primaries around the corner include Nevada's on Jan. 19 and Florida's on Jan. 29.

On Feb. 5, more than 20 states open polls in what's being billed as "Super Duper Tuesday."

sister felt sorry for me and gave me her laptop to use

GO FUCKING OBAMA....told yourll...

12:15 already

what is yourll or what does it mean?

to emphasize that its just another day in paradise, consider the following weather forecast from cnn:

Storms bringing snow, high winds to West Coast

California is bracing for a series of powerful winter storms poised to deliver a one-two-three punch to the West Coast, bringing snow, rain and high wind throughout the Golden State, forecasters said.

damned if i knew....when i was pushed out that is the first word i learnt...."you all" i guess

got it

being a scab or a bad comedian

NEW YORK (AP) -- The striking writers union told member Jay Leno on Thursday that he violated its rules by penning and delivering punch lines in his first "Tonight" show monologue in two months on NBC the previous night.

yep thats right he wants to do away with the IRS and all taxes oh except the new ones he's come up with -the ones that tax consumers...so wouldn't that be a burden on business nowthat they would have to come up with a way to collect that much then who do they pay it to sounds like 'ol Huckaboyohboyohboy wll have to create a new federal agency which collects the money and distributes it into hucky's pockets....in fact on Leno's show
Leno said something about tax everyone at 23%.. WTF?!
if its a consumption tax at 23% does that mean I'll pay 23 cents on every dollar? holyshit and he's gonna win votes like this?
notice on the website it says nothing about taxing things at 23% that was Leno's question which he answered yes to
here's ol huckyboys website on taxes
http://tinyurl.com/29b2bq

so which is worse
Submitted by dan on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 6:01am.
being a scab or a bad comedian
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he's nothing but a lowlevel shill for the repuke party
he can fake it by bringing doughnuts to the writers but Repukes don't agree with labor unions oh except the stupid ill informed repukes who work for a union and think they're pro union but vote Rapublican... they're just stupid.
In fact on last nights show Leno said it was about 19 or so people who were putting 100+ people on his staff out of work...yeah now that shows some real support of Unions, eh Leno?

Obama Says His Victory Will Bring Change

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DES MOINES, Iowa — A victorious Barack Obama portrayed his decisive first-place finish in the Iowa Democratic caucuses as a "defining moment" that he said would lead the way to change in Washington and an end to the war in Iraq.

The first-term senator from Illinois promised "a nation less divided and more united" and told those at a victory rally they could some day "look back and say this is the moment where it all began."

Obama, 46, is bidding to become the first black president. He garnered about 38 percent of the vote, comfortably ahead of former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, the former first lady.

"They said this day would never come. They said our sights were set too high. ... But on this January night, on this defining moment in history, you have done what the cynics said we couldn't do. You did what the state of New Hampshire can do in five days," Obama said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080103/caucus-obama/

Good to hear from you,Lucille..
Hope your having some fun !

I posted a animated shark a few threads back..
In honor of Jeffery's Bay..Surfs up ! ;)

Well Obama won..But,that stuff about having Lieberman
as his apprentice,still bugs me..
And,his health care,his Corporate donors..

I like Edwards and Dodd..
But,Dodd dropped out..
I could vote for Obama..
But,it's still early..

Dan..We'll have to see how low the snow goes..
Now Snow on the San Diego Coastline ?
I'd be freakin !!
For True !! :)

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at the beauty parlor for tonights 21st...so can abuse my sisters lap top

i will vote for any democrat right about now seriously

Clinton Campaign Stung By Third-Place Finish
January 4, 2008 12:05 AM

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Des Moines - After a stunning defeat and finishing third in Thursday night's Democratic caucuses, Senator Hillary Clinton congratulated Barack Obama and John Edwards, and vowed to jumpstart her national campaign and win her party's nomination for president.

"I am ready as I can be," Clinton told a crowd of a few hundred invited guests at a downtown hotel ballroom. "We're going to take this enthusiasm and go to New Hampshire."

But, as she spoke, shock and despair seemed to replace enthusiasm in the Clinton campaign. Months ago, the New York senator rolled into Iowa with an aura and attitude of invincibility. She now leaves the state for next Tuesday's primary in New Hampshire after suffering a humiliating finish nine points behind Obama and one point below Edwards.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/04/clinton-campaign-stung-by_n_796...

The media, this morning is going two fourty on New Hampshire now.

Edwards is talking from NH now on CNN

i love reading the descriptions of the primary results. stunning. humiliating. decisive. defining. shock and despair. outsiders score upset.

-- a little tidbit, sort of like the sports trivia they throw out during playoffs --

Only two winners in competitive Iowa contests since 1972 went on to capture the presidency: George W. Bush in 2000 and Jimmy Carter in 1976.

Just a Rich Hack..

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FDA to approve franken-meat
by Chris in Paris · 1/04/2008 04:10:00 AM ET · Link
Discuss this post here: Comments (23) · reddit · FARK ·· Digg It!

The good ol' Bush-FDA. They're always there for industry, when industry needs them. Just don't ask them to care about safeguarding the food for consumers though. I know it's asking for a lot, but could the Democrats in Congress back up the broad majority of Americans who hate this idea? Would this be asking too much?

The Food and Drug Administration is expected to declare as early as next week that meat and milk from cloned animals and their offspring are safe to consume, the Wall Street Journal reported without naming its source.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/01/fda-to-approve-franken-meat.html

http://marcmaronrules.blogspot.com/
The second post down..

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Hiring in the U.S. Probably Cooled in December, Posing Risk for Spending Hiring in the U.S. slowed in December and unemployment rose to a 17-month high, signaling one of the last bright spots in the economy lost its luster heading into 2008, economists said before a report today.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a4Vujb8Xyfhk&refer=n...

Illness forces Rep. Tom Lantos to retire
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By ANNE FLAHERTY
Associated Press Writer

Susan Walsh / AP Photo
House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Rep. Tom Lantos, D-Calif., speaks during a hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington in this June 26, 2007 file photo. Lantos, a California Democrat and chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, announced on Wednesday, Jan. 2, 2008, that he will not seek re-election this year because he has cancer of the esophagus.
WASHINGTON -- Rep. Tom Lantos, a California Democrat and chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, announced on Wednesday that he will not seek re-election this year because he has cancer of the esophagus.

Lantos, 79, is the only Holocaust survivor elected to Congress and is known for his dedication to human rights issues. He is serving his 14th term, after joining the House in 1981.

"It is only in the United States that a penniless survivor of the Holocaust and a fighter in the anti-Nazi underground could have received an education, raised a family, and had the privilege of serving the last three decades of his life as a member of Congress," Lantos said in a statement. "I will never be able to express fully my profoundly felt gratitude to this great country."
http://www.miamiherald.com/692/story/364286.html

is that happening today?

whats that all about??

what happened with that???anybody??

Lucille..
AAR caucus coverage last nite..
Mark Green had to massage his Huge Ego last night and,
co-host AAR's 4hr (or something)live Caucus coverage..
Everybody wanted Green to shut up and let the Professionals(Sam,Dave Binder etc..) talk.

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Bush exploring economic stimulus package By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer
Thu Jan 3, 4:03 PM ET

Amid new worries about a possible recession, the housing slump and rising oil prices, President Bush is exploring an economic stimulus package to reinforce the U.S. economy.

White House press secretary Dana Perino said Thursday that Bush is closely monitoring economic trends and is seeking input from his economic advisers on the pros and cons of such a package.

"The president has indicated that he will not make up his mind as to whether or not to lay out a package until the State of the Union," Perino said about the president's speech on Jan. 28. "Our economic policy is like our military policy. It is based on conditions on the ground and the president listens to advice from his economic advisers."

On Friday, Bush will receive an update from a working group on financial markets, an interagency panel that meets regularly to discuss market conditions and regulatory policy. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is chairman of the group. The other members are: Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke; Chris Cox, chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission; and Walt Lukken, acting director of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.

The Commerce Department reported Thursday that orders for manufactured goods rose by 1.5 percent in November, the biggest rise since a 3.4 percent surge in July. But the increase reflected higher petroleum prices and was not seen as a sign of renewed strength in the nation's manufacturing sector.

The Federal Reserve cut a key rate three times last year. Many economists predict there will be more rate cuts to come to help energize a weakening economy.

The president says he knows the public is frustrated and restless about the economy, and that his administration is trying to help people deal with their mortgage crises, energy bills and education concerns.

In his end-of-the-year message, Bush said, "The underpinnings of our economy have proven strong, competitive, and resilient enough to overcome the challenges we face."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080103/ap_on_bi_ge/bush_economy&printer=1;_...

put on hold..

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Dodd was pretty much the only one putting up a fight to prevent the bill with telecom immunity included to go through - this thing was stalled temporarily just before the xmas break but the fight will be on again sometime this month

boy are we fucked. next thing you know generalissimo greenspan will be testifying on the need to surge.

the blog's high point for me - was it milk or was it shit lucille was talking about? broke up some of that caucusing tension

Interesting results from last nights primary voting in Iowa.
Hope you all are well this very early a.m.

MONTANA & TRIBAL BISON HUNTS TAKE TOLL ALONG YELLOWSTONE BOUNDARY
41 Members Of America's Last Wild Bison Population Killed So Far
For Immediate Release, January 3, 2008
Contact: Buffalo Field Campaign, Stephany Seay 406-646-0070
WEST YELLOWSTONE & GARDINER, MONTANA - Wild bison migrating out of Yellowstone National Park are being hunted in Montana along the Park's north and west boundaries from November 15, 2007 through February 15, 2008. The state hunt entered phase 2 on January 1, 2008 and runs through Jan. 22. The final period of the hunt runs from Jan. 23 through Feb. 15, 2008.

The Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes and the Nez Perce Tribe are hunting under treaty right. The Salish-Kootenai have so far reportedly harvested 20 wild bison, while the Nez Perce have not yet begun their hunt. View an exclusive BFC interview of a Salish-Kootenai hunter at http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org.

Since opening day, a total of forty-one wild bison have been killed, shot under both state and treaty hunts, with the breakdown to date as follows:
West Yellowstone State Kills = 12
West Yellowstone Treaty Kills = 19
West Yellowstone Unknown Kills = 2
Gardiner State Kills = 7*
Gardiner Treaty Kills = 1
*including one special "super tag"

Montana's bison hunt is not authorized by Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks (FWP), the state's wildlife agency, but by the Montana Department of Livestock (DOL), an agency that exclusively promotes cattle interests.

www.buffalofieldcampaign.org

Federal judge explains reasons for keeping Siegelman in prison while awaiting appeal
Calls reversal of conviction unlikely Thursday, January 03, 2008KIM CHANDLER News staff writer
MONTGOMERY - Nearly two months after being ordered by an appellate court to explain his reasoning, a federal judge wrote Wednesday that he won't allow former Gov. Don Siegelman out of prison while appealing his conviction because he doesn't believe the conviction will be overturned.

U.S. District Judge Mark Fuller issued a 30-page order ruling that Siegelman should not be freed while he appeals his conviction. Fuller last year sent Siegelman directly to federal prison after he was sentenced to serve seven years, four months in prison for his conviction on bribery and obstruction of justice charges.

Judges with the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals twice ordered Fuller to provide a more detailed explanation of his decision, once in September and again in November.

http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/news/1199369729321...

WHO WILL SPEAK FOR THE HAIR-PLUGGED DRUNKARDS? Well, Biden’s out. Good-bye, Joe. You are pretty smart for a senator, even if you’ve rarely been smart enough to shut up before you say something vaguely racist or just plain absurd. Maybe President Ron Paul will make you Secretary of State, right before the U.N. is destroyed.

www.wonkette.com

good mire i will be back than to help kick ass tits and shit jokes huh? funny, whilst i sweat

he won't allow former Gov. Don Siegelman out of prison while appealing his conviction because he doesn't believe the conviction will be overturned.

Happy New Year Lucille - are you well? .. I hope things are good for you & you had a great holiday.

good golly ms. molly i would have "killed cats" vomitted jeez....

aint that some shit?? happy to you too gee43

Judge Mark Fuller ! !

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The Christians are on the rise again! The same folks who have elected so many great Americans to be President are gearing up to be heard again. Isn't this just the greatest country in the world?

We have wasted enough time on these guys. They have no chance and no support. Time for the Dems to get down to business.

but politics is hardly the work of god. how you could consider pushing america down a fundamentalist path like iran or some other third world country as something to look forward to is genuinely pathetic.

Pot 97. On open mic. I have great gratitude for their choice :)

USER NAV

Rice asks Libya to compensate terror victims, back human rights
Published: Thursday January 3, 2008

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice urged her Libyan counterpart here Thursday to promote human rights and meet demands for compensation from the families of terror victims, her spokesman said.

Rice and Abdelrahman Mohammed Shalgam met for about an hour in what was the first meeting in Washington between a Libyan foreign minister and US secretary of state for 36 years, a symbolic US embrace of a former pariah state.

But a resolution of the outstanding issues of human rights and compensation also appeared to be an obstacle to Rice traveling to Tripoli, in what would be the first such visit by a top US diplomat since 1953.

In a statement issued after the talks, Rice spokesman Sean McCormack listed the outstanding issues before saying: "Secretary Rice also reiterated her intent to visit Libya at the appropriate time."

The statement made clear US expectations.

"Secretary Rice urged Libya to move forward in resolving outstanding claims by families of terror victims against the Libyan government and raised human rights as an important agenda item for our bilateral relationship," it said.

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Rice_asks_Libya_to_compensate_terro_0103200...

before you know it, his picture will be on the 3 dollar bill.

U.S. Curtailing Bids to Expand Medicaid Rolls
By ROBERT PEAR
WASHINGTON — The Bush administration is imposing restrictions on the ability of states to expand eligibility for Medicaid, in an effort to prevent them from offering coverage to families of modest incomes who, the administration argues, may have access to private health insurance.

The restrictions mirror those the administration placed on the State Children’s Health Insurance Program in August after states tried to broaden eligibility for it as well.

Until now, states had generally been free to set their own Medicaid eligibility criteria, and the Bush administration had not openly declared that it would apply the August directive to Medicaid. State officials in Louisiana, Ohio and Oklahoma said they had discovered the administration’s intent in negotiations with the federal government over the last few weeks.

The federal government has leverage over states, because it pays a large share of the costs for Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, and states have to comply with federal standards to get federal money. The insurance program was created for children whose families have too much income to qualify for Medicaid but not enough to buy private insurance.

On Dec. 20, the Bush administration rejected a proposal by Ohio to expand its Medicaid program to cover 35,000 more children. Ohio now offers Medicaid to children with family incomes up to twice the poverty level, or about $41,000 a year for a family of four. The state had proposed increasing the limit to three times the poverty level, to about $62,000.

“Federal officials told us that they would apply the criteria set forth in the Aug. 17 letter to our proposal for expansion of Medicaid,” said Cristal A. Thomas, the Ohio Medicaid director.

Dennis G. Smith, the director of the federal Center for Medicaid and State Operations, confirmed that account.

“To be consistent and logical, you have to apply the criteria to Medicaid and CHIP,” Mr. Smith said in an interview.

The same concern, about the substitution of government health care for private insurance, is present under both programs, he said, and states will not be allowed to “sidestep the Aug. 17 policy directive” by expanding Medicaid.

Jeff Nelligan, a spokesman for the Medicaid agency, said Ohio officials “were trying to get around the Aug. 17 policy directive.” Under that policy, states had to enroll 95 percent of eligible children below 200 percent of the federal poverty level before they could expand their programs, a criterion that many state health officials said would be impossible to meet.

Tony Fratto, a spokesman for President Bush, defended the administration’s stance.

“We want states to focus on enrolling their neediest population before they consider expanding Medicaid and CHIP to middle-income families,” Mr. Fratto said. “This policy demonstrates the president’s compassion. He wants to direct scarce tax dollars to those with the greatest needs.”

Administration officials say government health programs start to “crowd out” private insurance when they cover families with incomes from 250 percent to 300 percent of the poverty level — about $51,600 to $62,000 for a family of four.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/04/washington/04health.html?ei=5089&en=fb...

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson was at 7 percent, Ohio Rep.

Dennis Kucinich was at 3 percent, Delaware Sen.

Joseph Biden was at 2 percent and Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd was at 1 percent.

Dodd and Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa results were announced.

A Drunken Night in Iraq, a Soldier Left Behind
Thursday January 3, 2008 9:31 pm
Source: Washington Post
Author: Donna St. George
Published: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/03/AR200801...
Woman Is Run Over, Abandoned by a Sergeant. Her Family Wants to Know Why

The sun had not yet risen in Taji. A young Army soldier lay alone in the dirt. She was alive, but barely. Her ribs had been crushed; her spleen, ruptured. Her right side was marked by the angular tread of a tire.

Pfc. Hannah Gunterman McKinney was 20 years old, the brown-eyed mother of a toddler son, when she was spotted in the headlights of a passing Humvee on a perimeter road at one of the largest U.S. military camps in Iraq.

Thirteen hours later, in Redlands, Calif., Barbie and Matt Heavrin, who had three children in the military, learned they had lost their elder daughter to "injuries suffered when she was struck by a vehicle," as the Army first described it.

But there was more to the story. For the Heavrins, the events of Sept. 4, 2006, inside the wire of Camp Taji emerged bit by bit. McKinney's last hours, they would learn, involved alcohol, sex and a decorated reservist who was responsible for looking out for junior enlisted soldiers such as their daughter.

Her case would become one in a litany of noncombat deaths in Iraq, which number more than 700, from crashes, suicides, illnesses and accidents that sometimes reveal messy truths about life in the war zone.

The cases can be especially brutal for parents who lose a child and struggle to understand why. In McKinney's case, many of the details are in a 1,460-page file and court-martial transcript obtained by The Washington Post under the Freedom of Information Act.

Now, her parents want her story to be fully told. They cannot reconcile themselves to the idea that, on that terrible day in Taji, their daughter was left behind.

In the early days after McKinney's death, the Heavrins say they were told by Army officials that it appeared their daughter might have been run over as she crossed a street in the dark while going from a guard tower to a nearby latrine.

Extra Bonus Quote of the Day
"This room was, until about five or six minutes ago, completely empty. This is a manufactured 'celebration.' It really felt more like a funeral as people started strolling in from upstairs where they had obviously been gathered. This is unlike anything that I've ever seen, a completely empty, dirge-like event."

-- NBC's Andrea Mitchell, on Sen. Hillary Clinton's speech after the Iowa caucuses.

will do anything to screw lower & middle class - - -

"restrictions mirror those the administration placed on the State Children’s Health Insurance Program"

I obviously do not know the whole story behind this judge. MMRules please fill me in.
How Do You Spell Bribed ?
Submitted by MMRules on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 7:38am.

While a range of factors rumbled through the Democratic race, the Republican contest was essentially about one thing: religion. Evangelical Christians accounted for a remarkable six in 10 GOP caucus-goers, and they favored Huckabee, a Baptist minister, over Mitt Romney, who's Mormon, by a broad 46-19 percent.

Among the remaining, non-evangelical Republican voters, by contrast, only about one in seven supported Huckabee, and Romney won easily, with 33 percent. In this group John McCain had 18 percent support, Fred Thompson 17 percent, Huckabee 14 percent.

That raises the question of how well Huckabee's appeal can travel. There are far fewer evangelicals in some other states, notably New Hampshire; and their share in the Iowa caucuses, a low-turnout event in which a highly motivated group can have a large impact, may be hard to replicate elsewhere.

http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Vote2008/story?id=4084499&page=1

National polls Average

Clinton 45.2%

Obama 24.0%

Edwards 13.8%

By Jim Lobe, IPS News. Posted January 4, 2008.

Bush is still hoping that 2008 will keep him from being judged as one of the very worst presidents in history.

If the last days of 2007 are any indication, U.S. President George W. Bush's last year in office is shaping up as grim and lonely.

Grim, because Bush's signature "war on terror" is nowhere near the kind of "victory" on which he had placed so much hope. Hundreds of billions of dollars from the U.S. Treasury have been spent, but the democratic transformation of the Middle East and the wider Islamic world has not materialized.

GOOD - He deserves everything he gets dished back to him. He's an asshole!

A clear look from the 97%
new
Submitted by Part of the 97 ... on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 7:58am.

AFRICOM: The Recolonization of Africa by Uncle Sam

by Wayne Madsen

http://www.opednews.com

The spirit of John F. Kennedy's Peace Corps, a civilian program without any ties to the U.S. military or intelligence community designed to help steer newly-emergent nations, mostly in Africa, to self-sufficiency and development, is officially dead.

George W. Bush's Africa Command (AFRICOM) not only places oil and global military strategy as the number one and two goals of America's Africa policy but places the State Department's assistance program for Africa firmly under Pentagon control.

In Pentagon-speak, AFRICOM, created on October 1, 2007, is currently a sub-unified command under the European Command (EUCOM) in Stuttgart, Germany. On October 1, 2008, AFRICOM will become a separate unified command. AFRICOM is still looking for a permanent base in Africa but there is a likelihood that it will be scattered as a "distributed command" across the continent to further extend America's military presence into every region, Saharan and Sub-Saharan.

Moreover, the militarization of America's Africa policy, begun under George H. W. Bush and continued by Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, will continue in a Hillary Clinton administration. That is because there is a group of militaristic U.S. African "experts" in the Pentagon, State Department, and in-waiting at pro-Hillary Clinton think tanks like the Center for American Progress (CAP). Ironically, these "experts" are mostly woman and they include current Assistant US Secretary of State for African Affairs Jendayi Frazer, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for African Affairs Theresa Whalen, and Bill Clinton's Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Susan Rice, who is currently with CAP.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_wayne_ma_080103_africom_3a_the_r...

Bhutto's Blood Is on Bush's Hands
Shahid Buttar, AlterNet
ForeignPolicy: The complicity of the U.S. in Pakistan's violence should alarm all observers.

www.alternet.org

i tink needs more than just glasses kick into the ass hole might help

By:Muriel Kane and Larisa Alexandrovna

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/timeline_don_siegelman_1126.htm

Hope this helps some..

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Part of 97% is hanging on to straws now.

His predictions are going south and he won't admit he's wrong so he is looking for anything that supports his position.

He has now slipped into the 3%. Bye bye 97%!!

Bhutto had "proof" state, spy agency rigging poll 01 Jan 2008 08:49:23 GMT
Source: Reuters

By Simon Gardner

KARACHI, Jan 1 (Reuters) - Benazir Bhutto was poised to reveal proof that Pakistan's election commission and shadowy spy agency were seeking to rig an upcoming general election the night she was assassinated, a top aide said on Tuesday.

Senator Latif Khosa, who authored a 160-page dossier with Bhutto documenting rigging tactics, said they ranged from intimidation to fake ballots, and were in some cases unwittingly funded by U.S. aid.

Bhutto had been due to give the report to two visiting U.S. lawmakers over dinner on Dec. 27, the day she was killed in a suicide bombing.

"The state agencies are manipulating the whole process," Khosa, a top Bhutto aide and head of her Pakistan People's Party election monitoring unit, told Reuters.

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/linkframe.php?linkid=48722

who gives a fuck what the dogsnot predicts????

Sorry, Sam, but we didn't get to hear you on AAR last night; we had to turn it off after Mark Green's relentless spinning of last night as a victory for His Girl Hillary got too nauseating. This guy needs to stay off the airwaves. His agenda is so clear; and his presence on air makes it look like AAR is a vanity project for him. And hasn't this network had enough of that?

Hahahahahahahahaha... Think so?

All we have gotten rid of is the 3% Democrat candidates.

That was step one!

William Kristol, the New York Times and Nazi Gunter d'Alquen
Posted 30 December 2007

It was an offhand remark, in 1971, by a Penn State professor to his political science students, that prompted me to become a devoted reader, then decades-long subscriber, to the New York Times: "If you don't read the New York Times, you can't begin to know what's occurring in the U.S. and the world." Over the years, I found overwhelming evidence -- much of it amusing and delightful -- to support his claim, even as I suppressed my suspicions that the "Old Grey Lady" was pimping for a muscular U.S. presence around the world. For years I lived with the conceit that sophisticated people spent much of their weekend mornings reading Sunday's Times

But, my-oh-my, how "Times" have changed! First, copy-cat journalism by Times' "wannabes" undermined the paper's claim to be the "paper of record." Subsequently, that reputation was further eroded - as was the general appeal of newspapers - by the emergence and widespread appeal of "24/7" cable and internet news. Finally, the Times suffered severe self-inflicted wounds - by such dishonest reporters as Jayson Blair and Judith Miller - from which it has yet to recover.

The final straw for me, however, was the December 30, 2007 decision by the Times to hire William Kristol (editor of the Weekly Standard) as a columnist. Although the Times calls Kristol a conservative, he is, in fact, a notorious neoconservative - a member of a political cult that many traditional conservatives disavow. Readers who noticed this Orwellian elision by the Times might also recall that in January 1998, Kristol (and Robert Kagan) wrote an Op Ed titled, "Bombing Iraq isn't Enough," which the Times was reckless enough to publish.

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/linkframe.php?linkid=48714

Saddam Provided More Food to Iraqis Than the U.S.
By Dahr Jamail and Ahmed Ali, IPS News. Posted December 28, 2007.

The U.S.-backed Iraqi government will half Iraqis' rations because of "insufficient funds and spiraling inflation."
The Iraqi government announcement that monthly food rations will be cut by half has left many Iraqis asking how they can survive. The government also wants to reduce the number of people depending on the rationing system by five million by June 2008.

Iraq's food rations system was introduced by the Saddam Hussein government in 1991 in response to the UN economic sanctions. Families were allotted basic foodstuffs monthly because the Iraqi Dinar and the economy collapsed.

wwwalternet.org

You see the 97% only have time for mainstream candidates. All that silly talk about Impeachment and such foolishness can not survive in the light of day.

New Jersey Assemblyman Says Blacks Should Thank the Lord For Slavery

by Mary Shaw Page 1 of 1 page(s)

http://www.opednews.com

Today, January 3, a committee of the New Jersey Assembly will begin considering a bill that would make Jersey the first northern U.S. state to issue a formal apology for the state's historic role in slavery.

This measure would be purely symbolic.

According to an article by the Associated Press, Assemblyman Michael Patrick Carroll, a Republican, is not in favor of the bill. He said, "If slavery was the price that a modern American's ancestors had to pay in order to make one an American, one should get down on one's knees every single day and thank the Lord that such price was paid."

In other words, according to Assemblyman Carroll, the blacks should be thanking the Lord for the fact that their ancestors were slaves, because that's how they came to be Americans. If not for slavery, they'd still be in Africa. Praise Jeeeeeesus!

Just when I thought the right wing couldn't stoop any lower...

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_mary_sha_080103_new_jersey_assem...

What A Total Asshole !

http://wonkette.com/340406/bill-bennett-praises-obama-for-not-acting-too-black

Some good comments too..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

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another lie from the 97%

Faith and Family Values, that is what the 97% want to talk about. The Huckster is pulling the election to right, just as George W. did!

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Posted: December 31, 2007
by: The Associated Press
David Melmer Indian Country -- South Dakota Gov. Mike Rounds has proposed using state, federal and private money to buy a perpetual easement that would prevent commercial and residential development of some land on the western side of Bear Butte.
By Chet Brokaw -- Associated Press

PIERRE, S.D. (AP) - For centuries, members of the Lakota, Cheyenne and other American Indian tribes have been climbing Bear Butte to fast and hold religious ceremonies.

Colorful prayer cloths hanging from trees line the path to the top of the mountain, which rises about 1,300 feet above the surrounding plain.

But often, and especially in August, the serenity of the site is disturbed by a deafening roar, caused by thousands of motorcycles.

Indians have sought for years to block development of land around the butte into campgrounds, bars and other sites that could interfere with their religious use of the mountain. Now they have an ally in the governor.

Gov. Mike Rounds wants to spend more than $1 million to prevent developers from putting biker bars and other noisy businesses on ranch land near the mountain on the northern edge of the Black Hills.

www.indiancountry.com

and to think i did not feel like laughing today
Submitted by Lucille on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 8:26am.
New Jersey Assemblyman Says Blacks Should Thank the Lord For Slavery

by Mary Shaw Page 1 of 1 page(s)
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Ah Dude..It's like 2008 man...

Here's a quarter now go buy a Clue ! !

Wingnuts=Psychosville ! !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

There's another Brittany story.

Alaska Oil Exploration to Begin
By Warren Bull
BBC News
The US government says it will offer exploration rights for oil and gas in a north-western region of Alaska.

The federal Minerals Management Service said it would take bids next month for concessions in the Chukchi Sea, which separates Alaska from Siberia.

But environmental groups fear the effects on wildlife in the region, including the polar bear population.

There have been no lease sales for over 15 years and the groups fear further exploration could damage marine life.

www.truthout.org

Crank likes a little Brittany?? ;)

back to back coverage by cnn this morning...fuck barack how dare he win

Intoxicated Britney Spears Hands
Over Kids To Cops, Is Hospitalized
AP | PETER PRENGAMAN | January 4, 2008 07:02 AM

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Read More: Britney Spears, Britney Spears Hospitalized, Jayden James, Kevin Federline, Sean Preston, Breaking Entertainment News

Police were called to Britney Spears' home Thursday night in a custodial dispute that lasted nearly three hours before an intoxicated Spears reportedly turned over her children to ex-husband Kevin Federline.

Officers were called to the home around 8 p.m., and the 26-year-old singer turned over the children around 10:50 p.m., Officer Jason Lee, a police spokesman, told City News Service.

Aerial footage from KTLA-TV showed Spears being lifted in a gurney into an ambulance. It was unclear where she was being taken.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/04/intoxicated-britney-spear_n_797...

Musharraf Says Bhutto Took Excessive Risks
Johan Spanner for The New York Times
Zumurrad Khan, standing, a member of Benazir Bhutto’s Pakistan Peoples Party, at a rally of 500 Thursday at the Rawalpindi park where she was killed last week.

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — President Pervez Musharraf on Thursday rejected any suggestion that he or any members of the Pakistani military or intelligence agencies played a role in the assassination of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, and said it was probably carried out by the same extremists responsible for a number of suicide bombings in recent months.

Taking questions from foreign journalists at the Presidential House here, Mr. Musharraf defended his police force and investigators, saying that Ms. Bhutto had defied the government’s warnings when she decided to go ahead with the rally in Rawalpindi, where she was killed a week ago. He added that she had broken standard security rules by standing in the open top of her vehicle as the crowd swarmed around her and by not leaving the rally quickly.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/04/world/asia/04pakistan.html?_r=1&hp&ore...

Just what America needs…

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has a frontal wedgie in picture

will probably holla back atcha when i get to the nyc....might not get an opportunity like this again

later

Have a good trip home.

Well Done, Iowa
By: Scarecrow Friday January 4, 2008 5:00 am

Iowa Caucus (Jim Bourg/Reuters)
No matter whom you supported in last night's Iowa caucuses, I think all Democrats and more than a few Independents will be saying "thank you, Iowans" this morning, not for the specific choices they made -- many may disagree -- but for the process they used. Iowa did a great job helping the whole country sort out the choices for President.

And Iowans did it with impressive numbers. Over 236,000 Iowan's turned out in bitter cold to participate in the Democratic caucuses, nearly 90 percent more than 2004, and as Howard Dean noted on CNN, about twice as many as participated in the Republican caucus. There were record numbers of first time participants, and large increases in women and young voters. As Marcy Wheeler and Hubris Sonic noted, all three Democratic front runners trounced Huckabee last night.

Iowans put up with a lot from the media, ignoring Beltway insults from those like the Washington Post's David Broder who declared yesterday that Iowans don't matter. After all, the imperious Broder declared, they're either left wing radicals or right wing religious nut cases who don't have enough sense to select the Serious candidates the Beltway pundits had already annointed for President.

I'm impressed by what the Iowa process did to educate the country. Iowans forced all the candidates to come there and answer their questions, in person, in hundreds of large and small gatherings all over the state. In the process we learned that some of the Republican candidates are not honest men; some are just phonies.

Read the rest of this entry »

http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/well-done-iowa/#more-14884

Late Late Nite FDL
By: Jane Hamsher Thursday January 3, 2008 9:29 pm

. Biden, Gravel out. . Dodd is out too, but pledges to keep up the FISA fight. He's a class act. . Obama won 32% to 31% among Democrats over Hillary. . Mark Ambinder reporting that despite denying that a deal was made, Richardson supporters moved in a bloc for Obama, and Obama advisor Samantha Power appears to confirm there was in fact a deal (YouTube).

http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/03/late-late-nite-fdl/

Dodd!
by kos
Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 09:55:53 PM PST
Harry Reid is going to cry.

I count the past year of campaigning for the presidency as one of the most rewarding in a career of public service.

Unfortunately, I am withdrawing from that campaign tonight.

But there is no reason to hang our heads this evening -- only the opportunity to look towards a continuation of the work we started last January: ending the Iraq War, restoring the Constitution, and putting a Democrat in the White House.

I know a lot of you came to this email list through a shared desire to return our nation to one that respects the rule of law, and I want to make one thing clear to all of you:

The fight to restore the Constitution and stop retroactive immunity does not end with my Presidential campaign. FISA will come back in a few weeks and my pledge to filibuster ANY bill that includes retroactive immunity remains operative.

You've been an invaluable ally in the battle, and I'll need you to stick by my side despite tonight's caucus results.

So, one more time, thank you for all of your efforts throughout the course of this entire Presidential campaign.

We made a real difference in shaping the debate, and we'll continue to do so in the coming days, weeks and years.

I'll never forget you, and what we've fought for, together, over the past year.

Chris Dodd

After Dodd's successful efforts to delay this bad FISA bill in December, Reid made a dismissive comment to the effect that this would have an easier time sailing through in January since the presidential primary would be mostly behind us. In other words -- Dodd would have dropped out by then, and he'd have little reason to "grandstand".

Except it wasn't grandstanding. Dodd is dead serious about protecting our Constitution, and I hope we can all pledge to do whatever we can to support his efforts. I certainly will.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/4/05318/33817/985/430233

Chris Dodd for Majority Leader!
by thereisnospoon
Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 08:37:28 PM PST
I want to thank Chris Dodd and the entire Dodd campaign tonight. The final showing in the caucuses was disappointing to say the least, but there hasn't been a candidate in the race who has shown stronger leadership, more spine, and more actual opposition to Republican and Cheney Administration legislation during the course of this campaign.

The Dodd campaign has absolutely nothing to be ashamed of tonight. The Dodd campaign was perhaps the closest campaign to espousing the values and tactics we ask for here on DailyKos: Senator Dodd hired Tim Tagaris, a longtime netroots star. He pulled out all the stops to prevent Harry Reid from capitulating on FISA and on telecom amnesty. And he campaigned courageously and tirelessly to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, ignoring the pabulum and platitudes--even the populist ones--that were the hallmarks of the top three Democrats in the field.

I can't quite figure out why the traditional media never gave Dodd the respect and attention he deserved. Maybe it's precisely because he stood up so strongly on behalf of the American People and their Constitution. Maybe it's just because Dodd's been around in the Senate for so long, that he seemed to have been "passed over for promotion", as it were.

Whatever the reason, shame on the traditional for ignoring your campaign, Senator Dodd. Of so many things the media has to be ashamed of during this race, focusing so much attention on Fred Thompson at your expense should really be at the top of the list.

Even though your Presidential run fell short, you have become my favorite Senator--and I hope that, if you want it, the next Democratic Administration will give you a role to play in the Executive Branch. If you wish to remain a Senator longterm after this, I fervently hope that you become the new Senate Majority Leader worthy of the American People.

All the best to you, Senator Dodd: your efforts will not be forgotten, and your race for the Presidency was not for naught. The Constitution is back on the table as an electoral issue; the FISA bill and telecom amnesty have been stopped in their tracks; and hopefully we'll have a new Democratic Majority Leader in the Senate who is worthy of the position.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/3/232134/7015/27/430174

by Amy Goodman

...
While President Bush imposed “regime change” on Iraq, based on fictitious weapons of mass destruction, “regime preservation” is the U.S. policy for Pakistan, despite its role in global nuclear proliferation, the sale of true WMDs.

Adrian Levy is a senior staff correspondent for the British newspaper The Guardian and co-author of “Deception: Pakistan, the United States and the Secret Trade in Nuclear Weapons.” He describes a “military government repressing human rights, connected tentatively to 9/11, state-sponsored terrorism with radical connections to al-Qaida that was proliferating WMD and of course that was not Iraq, it was Pakistan.” He told me: “The problem facing the Bush administration was their policy post-9/11 was very much to embrace Pakistan as an essential ally in the war on terror in order to allow the narrative over Iraq and the WMD in Iraq to rise. The Pakistanis milked their nuclear program for hard cash, selling to Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Libya, the Axis of Evil powers. We also know there is intelligence to show that they began negotiations very much with Saudi Arabia, Syria and, of course, there are tentative contacts with al-Qaida elements as well.”
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Good Morning..the storm woke me up. I hope all the trees stay standing...I'm glad for the tv weatherpeople though..they're all jacked up! The storm is wrapping itself into a circle out in the ocean and pushing on to shore...with lotsa Force...

its a temperature wind speed map over on weather.com

I predicted it: Obama will win the nomination.

Why?

He makes people feel good about themselves. It's that simple.

He causes them to feel good in more ways than only his speeches. The fact that a half-black man might attain the presidency represents everything that is good about America. During the last seven years we have seen everything that is wrong and ugly about America.

-M the a-c

--Woman Is Run Over, Abandoned by a Sergeant.
Submitted by smcgee43 on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 7:52am.--

Hope you're feeling better, smcgee43...

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“P”DA and Medea Benjamin on Benazir Bhutto - Support for “Benevolent” Empire - by John Walsh

The appalling Mark Green
Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 8:20am.
Sorry, Sam, but we didn't get to hear you on AAR last night; we had to turn it off after Mark Green's relentless spinning of last night as a victory for His Girl Hillary got too nauseating. This guy needs to stay off the airwaves. His agenda is so clear; and his presence on air makes it look like AAR is a vanity project for him. And hasn't this network had enough of that?
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Lionel and Mark Green were openly apologetic for Hillary Clinton.

and I'm going to make another prediction right now

She will lose in New Hampshire and South Carolina. The South Carolina primary won't even be close. Black Democrats will flood the polls.

-M the a-c

It seemed like the roof was going to blow off this morning...and the storm is just starting...

Did I miss anything?

those demotivational posters are too funny... :)

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CeeCee -
C.T. wrote back about the links you posted that Isent he and Kevin last night:

Hi , The "top two" primary system is even worst than the right to associate. It means that third parties will not be allowed the opportunity to present their candidates in the general election thus limiting voters choice and to make matters even worst than that it creates a situation where two Democrats or two Republicans may be the general election choice. However, the 'right to associate" means that people of like minds can come together and make decisions without outside interference. As you may know, Peace and Freedom Party is a party dedicated to democracy, feminism, socialism, egalitarianism, and environmentalism. People in another party who wish to have us removed from the ballot could vote in our primary, for what may be the worst candidates who distort our program and run campaigns that no one votes for. It is our contention that is exactly what happened in 1998 when California had an open primary and Peace and Freedom Party lost its ballot status. It took until 2003 for us to regain our ballot status. In fact we are the first party in the history of California to loose ballot status for more than one election and get back on the ballot. So while we made history in 2003, we do not want to go through that situation again. You may use your association rights by joining Peace and Freedom Party. I hope we will soon be welcoming you aboard.

C. T.

Who Can Stop Obama?
His Iowa win gives him momentum that will be hard to slow.

With his victory tonight, Barack Obama is now the strong favorite to be the Democratic nominee for president. The only one who can stop Obama from making history is Obama.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/84290

Not enough Chelsae. That girl is a BABE. seriously. she's really blossomed.

when you got brittney :)

i guess brittney's issues are the lead story this morning. i'm sure that falls into one of rachels burying the lead categorys.

Morning, mystic...yeah Chelsea is pretty.

Joe Scarborough, Tim Russert and that crew, I could scream.

Did you notice, last night, when Chris Mathews was sitting next to Olbermann, he spoke differently. He didn't sound so wierd.

This 3rd world example he uses for Obama is rediculous.

Rachel gave him what for a few times last night.

to see rachel getting on tv more and more often. i guess being a doctor, though not that kind of doctor, pays off.

The election of 1920 was the first in which women could vote nationwide. Harding received 60% of the national vote and 404 electoral votes, an unprecedented margin of victory. Cox received 34% of the national vote and 127 electoral votes. Socialist Eugene V. Debs, campaigning from a federal prison, received 3% of the national vote. Debs was in prison for opposing Wilson's draft; despite the many political differences between the two candidates, when Harding became President, he pardoned Debs.

its nice
new
Submitted by dan on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 10:04am.
to see rachel getting on tv more and more often. i guess being a doctor, though not that kind of doctor, pays off.
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the conservatives (AKA main stream media) HATE Rachel..

because shes smarter than they are, much more articulate

but most of all

LIKE-ABLE !

SHES THIS SMART LIKEABLE LESBIAN LIBERAL.....

how can they demonize gays with her around.

theyre so afraid of her. its fun to watch.

"...Aerial footage from KTLA-TV showed Spears being lifted in a gurney into an ambulance. It was unclear where she was being taken."
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Into perdition would be my guess.

failure rejected by Chavez:
Chavez reshuffles his cabinet

Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan president, has instigated a major reshuffle of his cabinet a month after he lost a key constitutional vote.He did not give details on most of the other cabinet changes, but said it was important to reach out to Venezuela's middle class and other sectors of society often alienated by his pro-poor policies.
"We are not extremists and we cannot be. We have to look for alliances with the middle classes," he said.

New Year pardon

The president said he had no plans to eliminate private property, a fear of many of his opponents.
In a further conciliatory measure he declared a pardon on New Year's Eve that is expected to free from jail hundreds of people who took part in a coup that briefly removed him from power in 2002.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/1FEF30EB-CC34-4438-B16D-E7F2F84F3...

then clearly general custer is in charge today. dow is down about 200 after jobs report said we're going to hell in a handbasket.

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