Not a maverick

did i get it????

finally

We've really dumbed up society with what we call "news"....

The press pushes the "straight talk express" moniker and the "maverick"...

and no one..NO ONE in the major media outlets calls this hypocrite on it...

No wonder newspapers are folding and the news departments in the big 3 tv networks are folding...they're lazy and downright stupid.

I agree with you..it sure is a mind bender and can be helpful for some...Others however should stay away.... :)

they're replaying the first hour, or something... what th'?

Isn't that a horse that a cowboy rides...didn't the media sell Bush as a Cowboy in 2000?

Well, f#$% Bush and the horse he is riding out on....

Sure they are! I mean who really wants to check all cattle for Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy? I mean .. George is doing fine with massive holes in HIS BRAIN, right?

Could .. I mean seriously COULD .. these assholes be more greed oriented and less concerned for human beings? I think they jerk off with "Benjamins" wrapped around their willies. Perhaps someone should point out to these corpulent pricks ... THEY NEED TO EAT, TOO!

Government urges appeals court to keep meatpackers from testing all cattle for mad cow [aka BSE or Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy]
"The Bush administration on Friday urged a federal appeals court to stop meatpackers from testing all their animals for mad cow disease, but a skeptical judge questioned whether the government has that authority.

Chief Judge David B. Sentelle seemed to agree with Creekstone's contention that the additional testing would not interfere with agency regulations governing the treatment of animals." ...

Hum .. overstepping .. why .. the Bush administration NEVER DOES THAT!! Surely NOT!!

mine died too...it's been inconsistent for a few weeks now.

Seriously...time better spent working on our own betterment, imo...

stopped and restarted at the last stop-point -

ain't technology grand?

Submitted by jdavidlara on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 3:36pm.
No wonder newspapers are folding and the news departments in the big 3 tv networks are folding...they're lazy and downright stupid.
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you can say that again.I really think they need some new blood on these tv news shows that russert matthews
stephanopoulos shieffer(sp) occupy. I think I heard sam refer to it as "real estate" so i'd have to say they are wasting expensive real estate

McCain Pushed Land Swap That Benefits Backer

By Matthew Mosk
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 9, 2008; Page A01

PRESCOTT, Ariz. -- Sen. John McCain championed legislation that will let an Arizona rancher trade remote grassland and ponderosa pine forest here for acres of valuable federally owned property that is ready for development, a land swap that now stands to directly benefit one of his top presidential campaign fundraisers].

[...]

http://pkp.sfu.ca/

The Public Knowledge Project

i opened a new aar stream, and it's 'live' again.

Nicky Barnes
Submitted by Lucille on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 3:40pm.

oh my god that deep?

that was before my time but grover tells me stories

and i saw american gangsta

my aar stream went dead, and now
Submitted by rctowns on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 3:40pm.
they're replaying the first hour, or something... what th'?

Cut and paste one of these links into your media player.

http://aarlive.voxcdn.com/live.m3u
http://cast.voxcdn.net:8000/live

who would like to play with me?

you're right about that but i really think if some of these
rightwingnutjobs would take something sometime it might open
their minds. they might actually think differently about things. they might be less angry and hostile.
every rightwingnutjob i know has some real issues with
control anger rage and hostility, a little acid might do 'em some good.

http://www.buzzflash.com/store/reviews/1069 -

brad friedman's chapter on Nevada's then-sec of state made a deal with Sequoia to rush the defective, illegal machines into place for the 2004 election - the election in which Heller 'won' nevada's CD2 congressional seat.

just called in to talk with Marc and give his opinion that Bush will start a war with Iran and suspend the elections in Nov.

Bush extends the National Emergency
Submitted by pbtrue1 on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 5:29pm.

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
September 12, 2007

Notice: Continuation of the National Emergency with Respect to Certain Terrorist Attacks

Consistent with section 202(d) of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1622(d)), I am continuing for 1 year the national emergency I declared on September 14, 2001, in Proclamation 7463, with respect to the terrorist attacks at the World Trade Center, New York, New York, the Pentagon, and aboard United Airlines flight 93, and the continuing and immediate threat of further attacks on the United States.

Because the terrorist threat continues, the national emergency declared on September 14, 2001, last extended on September 5, 2006, and the powers and authorities adopted to deal with that emergency, must continue in effect beyond September 14, 2007. Therefore, I am continuing in effect for an additional year the national emergency I declared on September 14, 2001, with respect to the terrorist threat.

This notice shall be published in the Federal Register and transmitted to the Congress.

GEORGE W. BUSH

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/09/20070912-2.html

am quite busy actually, gotta work, what a shame, missed all of marc so far, just tried to tune in but the effing thing is down, how do they expect to count the ratings if people can't login that's crazy and unfair

i'm using the live link that was provided by a kind soul, don't recall who, on previous thread from yesterday, so i can get it now.

But don't have time to participate much because i am still at work and very busy sorry

This was posted by 'anonymous' at 'answerbag.com' in January, about the NSPD (executive order) issued one year and one week ago:

"Yes. Bush can do that. Bush has signed several "Executive Orders" to enact "laws" that did not come through Congress. Those "orders" greatly extend the President's power and are mostly uncontitutional.

"In May 2007, Bush issued a major presidential National Security Directive (National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive NSPD 51/HSPD 20), which would suspend constitutional government and instate broad dictatorial powers under martial law in the case of a "Catastrophic Emergency" [note: the nature of a "catastrophic emergency is undefined and left to the president's discretion; clearly it could be either an outside attack or a natural disaster.]

"On July 11, 2007, the CIA published its "National Intelligence Estimate" which pointed to an imminent Al Qaeda attack on America, a second 9/11 which, according to the terms of NSPD 51, would immediately be followed by the suspension of constitutional government and the instatement of martial law under the authority of the president and the vice-president.

"NSPD 51 grants unprecedented powers to the Presidency and the Department of Homeland Security, overriding the foundations of Constitutional government. It allows the sitting president to declare a “national emergency” without Congressional approval. The implementation of NSPD 51 would lead to the de facto closing down of the Legislature and the militarization of justice and law enforcement.

"The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government. . . ."

"Were NSPD 51 to be invoked, Vice President Dick Cheney, who constitutes the real power behind the Executive, would essentially assume de facto dictatorial powers, circumventing both the US Congress and the Judiciary, while continuing to use President George W. Bush as a proxy figurehead."

yay boss is gone for the day
Submitted by Lucille on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 3:52pm.
who would like to play with me?
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sorry Lu i was just leaving
have fun and try to stay out of trouble
hehehe

did he not have a whole week of his own show?

for the audio links to live stream

and this is why we should all be concerned with the large increase in fundamentalists at the highest levels of the military and government. enforcement of the nspd will require loyal troops to do the bidding.

From my post to Richard Belzer's ear. They've given themselves the putative power. I think they intend to use it.

but I can remember the talk, and the headlines. I never met the man, but I knew people who knew him and "worked" for him.

Mine is a long and sordid story Luc. I will sum it up by saying I started in that life very young and got out of it early, by the skin of my teeth. Got my ass out of the neighborhood, and made a half decent life for myself.

One of the "lucky ones". A poor dumb white kid from the slums makes good....

I am glad those days are gone, but it is fun to "remember when", especially with some one who has a frame of reference.

http://tinyurl.com/69tgsg

and what would the average dumb-ass, teevee-saturated, brain-dead american do?

If the neo-fascists in charge aren't careful, they might find themselves faced with some very angry human beings who've been hammered with layoffs, foreclosures, sky-rocketing food and fuel prices, difficult or impossible access to healthcare -

I've been saying since the 2000 coup: things are going to have to get so bad that change will only come when the streets run red...

i love sordid stories, thats the story of my life

Submitted by Willow on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 3:41pm.
...I mean who really wants to check all cattle for Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy? I mean .. George...
------
Do you really expect that a guy who has difficulty pronouncing household words will take on Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy?

Flu, maybe. Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, in your dreams.

blame it on the illllegal aliens and liberrruls. there's a reason for the constant drumbeat of hate.

i'll have the fish special please

Submitted by dan on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 4:19pm.
i'll have the fish special please
----
I recommend the tuna/thermometer combo.

Tin foiled again.

hold the merury.

.

damn I'm gettin slow.

and yes your's is prettier,
but I spelled my betterer.

Poopie Fish Bad!!

And NO FUGU NEITHER!!! This shit'll kill ya if it's made wrong!

Is that so?!

It is at that point when we will truly see the difference between liberals and leftists.

Damn, I've that infectious Peace Frog baseline in my head now.

One of my favorite movie lines, but I can't for the life of me remember the movie...:(

Wow - Maron played the Dead Boys yesterday...Coooooool

One more live, Seder on Sundays, this Sunday.

I just know I'm going to cry.

using fish farms. the theory was that a natural contaniment in their feed was converted to a poison by the fish liver. by growing the fish on farms where everything is controlled, they eliminated the contaniment from the feed and the resultant fish was poison free.

there is a city in japan which is the home of fugu and they are up in arms over this because the market for illegal fish has disappeared. also, all the chefs that learned how to prepare the poison version are no longer in demand.

Ouch.

Brawndo - it's got electrolytes.

when confronted with a Congress & courts & media that will all roll over and parrot the White House line, will not take to the streets except to repress any resistance. So far at this point there's no mass fascist movement. If it came to the scenario Belzer laid out, they might have to create one, if only to counteract us. They can create the black shirt type movement until they organize Blackwater & KBR et al. to enforce the new order. Unless they think McCain is going to occupy the White House, in which case they may not bother. What to do -- at the very least confront both/all the candidates with the idea and insist that they have to be prepared.

What a beautiful riff just made by Marc. Wow.

Awake! Awake, sleeple!

Plame seeks to resurrect lawsuit against Bush administration in CIA leak case

"Former CIA operative Valerie Plame is trying to resurrect a lawsuit against those in the Bush administration she says illegally disclosed her identity.

During the trial, it was revealed that Libby and former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer also discussed Plame with reporters." ...

She is insisting on taking the headlines, spotlight OFF

o The Prosecutor Scam and Don Siegelman case and election fraud crimes

o The Bush Torture Machine

o The psyops propaganda scam using those 75 generals

o The truth about Iraq's ruin

and so on and on.

It's always good to make a distinction between the fascist "christians" and the actual christians who have no desire at all to push their beliefs onto anyone else.

Who can plumb the minds of the Clintons?
People are saying she wants to run in 2012 -- but she's ruining her chances to be effective in politics. What is clear is that she's tuned in to her own concerns above all else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7827EMkm5ko

i suspect that both scenarios would co-occur... and i suspect that presidential candidates have been thinking about this since before the 2004 election - despite having set-aside millions (either $14.5 million or $45 million)for a post-election challenge; Kerry folded like a well-oiled umbrella in the wee hours.

When cultural denial breaks down, human reactions are unpredictable at best.

I liked the television program 'jericho' in that it showed a range of human reactions to what we could be facing in october of this year.

worried about. They seem to be going back into "missionary mode" as of late.

Ever heard of these clowns? A Gathering of Eagles.

As a Black/Brown shirt type movement, they are a likely candidate.

I encountered them at the march in DC last year. They fit the mold very nicely. Even their propaganda rings of Goebbels.

Is at the end of the story ...

3 accused of using corpse head to smoke pot
"The Kingwood teenager's story of decapitating a corpse and using the head to smoke marijuana was so outlandish that at first Houston Police Department senior police officer Jim Adkins did not believe it.

Houston police believe the teens disturbed the grave of an 11-year-old boy who died in 1921. ...

The story continues..

"All three teens gave written and verbal confessions admitting they tried to dig up a body over a two-day period, Adkins said.

The three boys, all home-schooled, have also been charged in connection with the vehicle break-in. Jones and the juvenile are charged with credit card abuse, while Gonzalez pleaded guilty to a charge of misdemeanor theft between $50 and $500."

Jesus .. just throw away the friggin' key already.

Yeah -- I saw them there last September, lining the march route with their "counterdemonstration." All I could do at the time was yell, "George Bush is a war criminal," but couldn't force myself to actually read their propaganda.

the worst part of it is they're "under the radar.."
and they really do act like neo-nazis; that's not an extreme thing to say

because I am a relgious Buddhist and an Atheist...we dont believe in a creational God...the guy God sorry I missed the interview with Chris Hedges....

If you get the mailings from the Southern Poverty Law Center you know there is a whole spectrum of neoNazi/ white supremacist/ christian nation/ skinhead/ nationalist/ anti-immigrant groups including the KKK and various churches, out there, that would jump at the chance to pick up weapons and blow away some godless commie fags like you and me, and have the government backing them up openly.

In case you didn't get what was behind that exchange, Mrs. Clinton spent this week making it clear. In a jaw-dropping interview in USA Today on Thursday, she said, "I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on." As evidence she cited an Associated Press report that, she said, "found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

White Americans? Hard-working white Americans? "Even Richard Nixon didn't say white," an Obama supporter said, "even with the Southern strategy."

If John McCain said, "I got the white vote, baby!" his candidacy would be over. And rising in highest indignation against him would be the old Democratic Party.

To play the race card as Mrs. Clinton has, to highlight and encourage a sense that we are crudely divided as a nation, to make your argument a brute and cynical "the black guy can't win but the white girl can" is -- well, so vulgar, so cynical, so cold, that once again a Clinton is making us turn off the television in case the children walk by.

"She has unleashed the gates of hell," a longtime party leader told me. "She's saying, 'He's not one of us.'"

She is trying to take Obama down in a new way, but also within a new context. In the past he was just the competitor. She could say, "All's fair." But now he's the competitor who is going to be the nominee of his party. And she is still trying to do him in. And the party is watching.

Again: amazing.

Who can save the situation? The superdelegates.

You know them. They're the ones hiding under the rock, behind the boulder, and at the bar.

They are terrified, most of them. They want the problem to go away. They want it handled, but they don't want to do it. They don't want to tell Hillary to stop, because they would likely pay a price for it, and not just with her.

They are afraid of looking as if they're jumping on a train that's speeding down the tracks and is about to roll over the damsel in distress.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121027865275678423.html?mod=todays_colum...

*

> Submitted by Willow on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 4:45pm.
>
> During the trial, it was revealed that Libby and
> former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer
> also discussed Plame with reporters." ...

and so did her husband, Joseph Wilson.

Plame must be running low on cash.

well, she did lose her job in a rather ugly way by some very powerful criminals.

If Sam is not renewed by Sunday's show (preferably renewed for WEEKDAY shows), I intend to listen to the AAR commercial breaks off and on for a month or so, and make note about who's still advertising. For each one, I intend to contact them and thank them for their previous upport of AAR. I will also let them know that I am no longer listening, and offer other alternatives where they might care to focus their advertising resources.

I have actually influenced my purchasing decisions based on who supports AAR. In the past I have literally taken time to personally contact many businesses, just to let them know how much I appreciated their support for AAR. Just as I close the door when I leave the house, the least I can do is let them know when their advertising investment is no longer going to reach me.

Thoughts?

You Go Girl!!
Submitted by Willow on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 4:45pm.
Plame seeks to resurrect lawsuit against Bush administration in CIA leak case

"Former CIA operative Valerie Plame is trying to resurrect a lawsuit against those in the Bush administration she says illegally disclosed her identity.
*******
Hopefully,she won't get some Bushtard appointed judge again !

:)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

In his victory speech after the North Carolina primary, Sen. Barack Obama said something that is all the more remarkable for how little it has been remarked upon.

In defending his stated intent to meet with America's enemies without preconditions, Sen. Obama said: "I trust the American people to understand that it is not weakness, but wisdom to talk not just to our friends, but to our enemies, like Roosevelt did, and Kennedy did, and Truman did."

That he made this statement, and that it passed without comment by the journalists covering his speech indicates either breathtaking ignorance of history on the part of both, or deceit.

I assume the Roosevelt to whom Sen. Obama referred is Franklin D. Roosevelt. Our enemies in World War II were Nazi Germany, headed by Adolf Hitler; fascist Italy, headed by Benito Mussolini, and militarist Japan, headed by Hideki Tojo. FDR talked directly with none of them before the outbreak of hostilities, and his policy once war began was unconditional surrender.

FDR died before victory was achieved, and was succeeded by Harry Truman. Truman did not modify the policy of unconditional surrender. He ended that war not with negotiation, but with the atomic bomb.

Harry Truman also was president when North Korea invaded South Korea in June, 1950. President Truman's response was not to call up North Korean dictator Kim Il Sung for a chat. It was to send troops.

...

That view was supported by New York Times columnist James Reston, who traveled to Vienna with President Kennedy: "Khrushchev had studied the events of the Bay of Pigs," Mr. Reston wrote. "He would have understood if Kennedy had left Castro alone or destroyed him, but when Kennedy was rash enough to strike at Cuba but not bold enough to finish the job, Khrushchev decided he was dealing with an inexperienced young leader who could be intimidated and blackmailed."

It's worth noting that Kennedy then was vastly more experienced than Sen. Obama is now. A combat veteran of World War II, Jack Kennedy served 14 years in Congress before becoming president. Sen. Obama has no military and little work experience, and has been in Congress for less than four years.

The closest historical analogue to Sen. Obama's expressed desire to meet with no preconditions with anti-American dictators such as Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the trip British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain and French premier Eduoard Daladier took to Munich in September of 1938 to negotiate "peace in our time" with Adolf Hitler. That didn't work out so well.

History is an elective few liberals choose to take these days, noted a poster on the Web log "Hot Air." The lack of historical knowledge among journalists is merely appalling. But in a presidential candidate it's dangerous. As Sir Winston Churchill said:

"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obama_needs_to_study_h...

I like it.....I will join you....

so I hate everyone equally

hence the name, right?

> Submitted by dan on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 5:19pm.
>
> well, she did lose her job in a rather ugly way
> by some very powerful criminals.

Plame didn't lose her job. Plame resigned from the CIA in December 2005.

S.P.I.T. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Exactly NB. They are well funded, well organized, and their numbers are slowly, quietly, growing.

Their rhetoric is ultra-nationalistic and decries their being victimized by the "peace movement". Sound familiar? Goebbels' playbook all the way.

This group, in my opinion is extremely dangerous and will become extremely violent when called upon to quell the protests that are coming down the pipe.

keep engaging them.....

If you want them to go....

spit

from the wiki:

Valerie Elise Plame Wilson (born Valerie Elise Plame 19 April 1963, in Anchorage, Alaska), known as Valerie Plame, Valerie E. Wilson, and Valerie Plame Wilson, is a former United States CIA Operations Officer whose covert identity was classified and the wife of former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV.[1][2][3][4][5][6] After working for the CIA for twenty years, she retired in December 2005, as a result of the publication and compromising of her classified cover identity by an American journalist in the summer of 2003.

On 14 July 2003, Robert Novak identified "Wilson's wife" publicly as "an agency operative on weapons of mass destruction" named "Valerie Plame" in his syndicated column in The Washington Post.[7] In that column Novak was responding to an op-ed entitled "What I Didn't Find in Africa," written by Wilson and published in the New York Times the previous week, on July 6, 2003. In his op-ed, Wilson stated that the George W. Bush administration exaggerated unreliable claims that Iraq intended to purchase uranium yellowcake from Niger to support the administration's arguments that Iraq was proliferating weapons of mass destruction so as to justify its preemptive war in Iraq.[8]

Novak's public disclosure of Mrs. Wilson's then-still-classified covert CIA identity as "Valerie Plame" precipitated what is known as the Plame affair, leading to the CIA leak grand jury investigation, which resulted in the indictment , conviction and commuted sentence (prior to the anticipated full pardon by President Bush) of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby in United States v. Libby on charges of perjury, obstruction of justice, and making false statements to federal investigators. A civil lawsuit filed by the Wilsons, Plame v. Cheney, against current and former government officials, followed, but was dismissed on July 19, 2007, in the District Court for the District of Columbia. The Wilsons appealed the decision the next day.

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and btw:

patooie

distinctions
new
Submitted by mystic23 on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 4:50pm.
It's always good to make a distinction between the fascist "christians" and the actual christians who have no desire at all to push their beliefs onto anyone else.

» ========================================

Christianists. These are Christian in name only.

And we mustn't forget the Dominionists (some of whom are behind the mercenary corporations AND the crooked electronic voting technology -- so they have a goal and are moving toward it in scary ways!)....

which means I don't worry about it!

WASHINGTON -- Barack Obama -- the charismatic, weakened, patronizing, soaring, prickly, historic, inevitable nominee of the Democratic Party -- is now left with two related problems.

First, Obama's own missteps, amplified by Hillary Clinton's negativity, have defined a narrative likely to follow him until Election Day.

In politics, a narrative -- the widely held, sometimes-unfair shorthand that marks a candidate -- is difficult to shift. For Dan Quayle, it was fresh-faced intellectual vacuity. For John Kerry, it was a combination of hauteur and inconstancy.

The Obama narrative is intellectual and ideological (not social) elitism. Humble roots have never been a guarantee of intellectual humility, especially when a mind comes to flower at Columbia and Harvard. Obama's dismissal of small town views and values as "bitterness," "fear" and "anger" -- his dismissal of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright as the relic of an angry generation -- come across as, well, dismissive. His first instinct -- the academic instinct -- is to explain and analyze, which is impressive to political writers who share that particular vocation. But this approach always places the explainer in a position of superiority. The arrogance of the aristocrat is nothing compared to the arrogance of the academic.

...

It is also a striking reversal of fortunes. Obama is easily the most religiously fluent and informed Democratic presidential candidate since Jimmy Carter. But, over time, Obama has assumed a much more familiar, Democratic electoral profile -- the candidate of the young, the educated and the secular (he has consistently won religiously nonaligned voters), who also gets nearly universal support from African-Americans. He increasingly resembles Bill Bradley or Gary Hart -- a candidate of new liberalism -- with this additional element of black enthusiasm.

There are many possible reasons for the opening of a religion gap, in addition to Obama's off-putting aura of superiority. Bill Galston of the Brookings Institution suggests that Catholics may be more attracted to bread-and-butter issues than elevated calls for change; more likely to be political "regulars" instead of reformers; more apt to identify age with leadership. Both white Catholics and white Protestants seem to have been disturbed by Rev. Wright's vigorous reassertion of black liberation theology -- not because it is black, but because it is radical. And at least some Americans are concerned by the unreconstructed liberalism -- on abortion and other issues -- beneath Obama's post-partisan approach.

Going forward, the main political question is this: Can John McCain turn this disaffection into Republican votes? Given his instinctual populism, policy moderation and moving life story, perhaps he is the only Republican who could. Given the distemper of the country, the public preference for Democrats on nearly every policy issue, and the destruction of the Republican brand among the young, perhaps no Republican could.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/flag_pins_and_foolishn...

Marc,We love ya man !

Keep it going AAR..

Do something Smart,AAR..You know,something Smart,as opposed to something that you normally do..

Bring back Maron And Seder !

Comments-American Afternoon-Today

Say Adios to Maron..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

I am so glad Marc and his friends are talking about the racism involved in the attacks on Rev. Wright.

Way to go, guys!!!!!

i missed the Hedges interview. Had to run an errand and there wasn't enough chord for my puter to reach to the car.

are there any bootleg podcasts of the three Maron shows from this week? I missed almost all of the first two.

BIOLOGY in general. Their insistence on denying biology (their acceptance of their myth as literally true makes it necessary) expands to denying all science, apparently.

these fucking ads....sammy cam.......much better

Can't find it anywhere....Anybody in here know?

i think a lot of atheists (based on ones i talk to regularly) seem to think all christians are dogmatic and fundamentalist by nature. many are. many are not. lots of us don't even believe in hell so we don't assume someone's going to hell if they believe differently than we do. and then we get told by atheists that we're not "really" what we say we are. if we were, they say, we'd be dogmatic and fundamentalist, too!

if atheists don't want religious people to define them based on their thought processes regarding religion, why do so many atheists insist on defining these other people by what they assume their beliefs are? i think maybe it's more a human nature thing than an atheist vs. religious person debate.

but i don't want to be dogmatic about it either way.

I heard he was going to host one week.

‘I Personally Checked John McCain’s Bearings’

Is that a homosexual reference? How does one personally check another's bearings? Does it involve juggling the nuts?

bad p.r. i guess

seriously, the good ones are too busy practicing their faith to screw with the rest of the world.

Ha!

Sara and I flew home from Midway last night, a 7:55 flight. We were some of first passengers to pause for just a moment to look at these strange new signs, and corresponding lanes; as we rushed to our flight. I saw others doubling back to get a second look, apparently in disbelief.

From K.O. Last Night:

"Best Homeland Security innovation, in fact first Homeland Security innovation, Levanche Johnson, Transportation Security Manager at Midway in Chicago now offering security training with three separate lanes marked with signs like at ski resorts, beginners, casual travelers and black diamond course for advanced passengers who don‘t need to be told to take off their shoes and take out their laptops, but just go ahead and do it."

Has such an ease about it and is so authentic in his form of questioning, that is, his questions come from his own personal interest, is what I mean to say.

I heard Hedges interviewed by Hartmann, too, and Marc's interview was so much better, because Marc just let Hedges do his thing so we could find out where Hedges is coming from. (Hartmann's interview of Hedges got all confused and strange; I couldn't figure out the odd energy.)

But, Maron, interviews like the guest and audience are all just stopping in "TO HANG"! Love that relaxed energy, too. Just like I love Sam's LASER INTERVIEWS that get to the nucleus of any issue.

Both Seder and Maron are VERY special talents!

LL cool jay has a gun in this guys mouth and asks him "whats my name" guy says GOD

whats my name?

It doesn't matter which direction the spew is flying, it is all the same shit.

Prejudice betrays ones character flaws.

Maron and Maher are comedians, so I generously chalk theirs up to artistic license, but just barely.

I am not a religious person, but it saddens me to see otherwise tolerant people think it is perfectly fine to rip on someone for their beliefs.

JMHO

how are your teeth?

Pat Buchanan on Hilldabeast's racial nonsense: "SHE'S RIGHT. HER BASE OF WHITE PEOPLE IS MUCH BETTER THAN OBAMA'S MOVEON.ORG CHILDREN, EGGHEADS AND BLACKS."

Jesus. Smack him.

did you just hear him on the rachel show? he is bugging the fuck out more and more daily...yet they run him every chance they can

Fetal alcohol syndrome: Primary disabilities

Adaptive behavior — Poor impulse control, poor personal boundaries, poor anger management, stubbornness, intrusive behavior, too friendly with strangers, poor daily living skills, developmental delays - Wikipedia

back in the stride again...you wanna see?

copman is listening and getting a hard on too

Fernando, remember when he was Gore's running mate.
Remember, when Kerry was going to run with Mccain?
After listening to desperate Hillary supporters call in all day to different shows vowing to vote for Mccain now, I'm convinced that a Mccain/Clinton ticket is unbeatable.
Shocking.

Bring Back The Future !

American Afternoon-Comments-Today-Keep It Going-Thanks !

www.marcmaronrules.blogspot.com/

It Can't Hurt.. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

oh shit fernando i saw that it morning..funny stuff for real

i am convinced pat buchanan is on some "acid"
new
Submitted by Lucille on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 6:13pm.

Yeah, I quoted him.

Oxycontin?

lets go!!!!they all ARE republicans anyway

bet!!! you just love me dont you?

Orange or Purple ?

Barrels or Micro Dot ?

Where's SJ when ya need him ? ;)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Submitted by Lucille on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 6:18pm.
bet!!! you just love me dont you?

Black women rock.

I have it on good authority, it was Micky Mouse blotter.
http://www.blotterart.net/gallery/album35/Mickey

oh for real? would like to be in one? yuck---i see you like my music huh?

they are ribbing Pat right now

Black women rock.
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Submitted by Lucille on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 6:24pm.
oh for real? would like to be in one? yuck---

You're kind of jumping the gun there-- no pun intended.

I just mean that they're cool.

www.sigzone.blogspot.com

Forgot that one,PB..
I bit passed my time.. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

I spent more than a few nights with Mickey watching my hands move around and contemplating the sound of blue...

WWEEEEE

http://movies.yahoo.com/summer-movies/Star-Wars-Clone-Wars/1809991325/tr...

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The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. ~ George Bernard Shaw

Who are the White Ethnic Voters?

MSNBC political pundits are, as I write, refering to a class of voters in Ohio and other states, as Ethnic White voters. What in hell are Ethnic White Voters? On the MSNBC web site, it notes that exit polls suggest that "white, blue collar and older voters" are trending toward Clinton whereas African Americans are voting for Obama. In short, for the most part, Whites go for Clinton and Blacks for Obama. These are, of course, overlapping descriptive terms since a single person could be white, blue collar, and old.

I already knew that America is a racist country with Blacks being every bit as racist if not more racist than Whites. The difference in this election is I suspect that a greater percentage of Whites are voting for Obama than would be true of Blacks in regard to Clinton. These Whites would, of course, be liberals. This tendency is magnified by Obama's seeming to be the more liberal candidate. The more extreme liberals would be anti-Clinton since Bill moved the party toward the center when he was President, which accounts both for his getting elected and the successes he had as President. Much to the chagrin of Republicans, Clinton stole some of their most basic tenets -- free trade, balanced budgets (forget that Reagan and W have been pro-deficit -- Reagan was a Reagan conservative (no taxes for the rich) and W is a neocon, a very different kind of rat), and the like. So, now you know why White liberals don't like Hilary. She isn't noticeably liberal (any more).

But that brings me back to the intriguing concept of the Ethnic White. There was a time when I saw Italian Americans and Irish Americans as classic cases of Ethnic Whites -- Whites who maintain their ethnic identity. I don't think that this is what the pundits on MSNBC have in mind exactly.

These pundits also speak of Working Class Whites. At this point, I am massively confused. Are Working Class Whites the same as Ethnic Whites or different? Historically, Ethnic Whites did tend to hold blue collar jobs back when such jobs existed. I think that these MSNBC pundits are using "Ethnic White" to refer to what are sometimes called "Red Necks." Nowhere in these discussions is there any reference to "Whites who continue to be fairly racist" but we all know that there are still plenty of them around -- indeed, they abound in Ohio. As I write this, I am no longer watching the political coverage because there is a competing Ohio State basketball game to watch so I don't know how Ohio will go. I am betting we can expect our Ethnic Whites to make the difference for Hillary. There is an irony here -- no President has been as pro-Black as Bill Clinton but now, assuming I haven't totally misread the situation, the historic White racists are voting for Hillary. That's okay by me since gobs of Black racists are voting for Obama.

I hope I have been reasonably coherent. It is hard to compose prose and watch a basketball game at the same time.

http://thelanguageguy.blogspot.com/2008/03/who-are-white-ethnic-voters.h...

Where the hell do you find these places PB....

and you know this how? i never jump guns---i use knob kiri's

did you bring me back any goodies?

Orange micro dot, I picked lint out of the carpet all night, one piece at a time. Ever had cheek cramps?

I watched one girl stick a purple dot in her eye.

msnbc---bitch slap stoopid punks

Submitted by cent on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 6:30pm.
Where the hell do you find these places PB....

until they contact the NSA.

Harpo studios is haunted.

that how i would have put it..and i am being nice here

is cool---bearing oh hell no

why are you scaring me with all this dark shit?

I lived in the building 1 block West of her studio...900 block of Washington...The day you walked all around sounded so fun! My husband and I did that as well..went from one side of the river all the way to Oak Street Beach.. :)

Remember when DailyKOS and all the kookheads said she was getting married cause she was preggos?

Like a lot of lefty theories: not true.

How many of you see this as a pathetically thinly veiled rationalization to justify more loss of freedom of communication?

The ACLU is focusing on religion here, I think they are swinging at a pitch in the dirt.

ACLU Skeptical of Senate Report on “Homegrown” Terrorism

WASHINGTON, DC - May 8 - After Senators Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) and Susan Collins (R-ME) introduced a report on Islamic homegrown terrorism today, the American Civil Liberties Union strongly urged Congress to use caution when moving forward on related legislation, the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 (S. 1959). The report, "Violent Islamist Extremism, the Internet, and the Homegrown Terrorism Threat," is based on findings from hearings held by the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. The ACLU and nearly twenty other groups sent a memo to the committee outlining concerns with the report, most notably the free speech implications of labeling the internet as a "weapon" and the unfair singling out of one religious group as possible "extremists."

"Once we begin trying to regulate belief systems, we have veered perilously far from the Constitution," said Caroline Fredrickson, director of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office. "Though the need to prevent criminal acts of violence is unquestionable, targeting communities based on religious beliefs is unacceptable and unproductive. We will only end up stigmatizing the Islamic community and creating a nation of Islamophobes. We should not be legislating against thought and we should certainly not be regulating religious or unpopular thought. A dynamic debate can only make this country stronger and safer."

[...]

Oh, man are my feet tired.

I took the Trolley tour on Wednesday, saw all sorts of stuff. Including Oprah's two penthouses. I'm not a huge fan or anything, but Chicagoans obviously are.

Ate at the Chicago Diner, on N. Halsted, meat free since '83. REALLY good food.

Didn't get to Wrigley Field, but I got a Cubbies cap. And we stayed across the street from the Wrigley Building anyway.

and I don't even chew gum.

where's the bear when you need him

featuring Ghostface Killah, Spank Rock, Amanda Blank, and Plastic Little "Crambodia (Remix), mp3

I'll bet that's nice...The Palmer House hotel is also very old and very pretty inside...It is a beautiful city...flat...but that makes for easier walkings than SF.. :)

Do you think she knows who the father is? Maybe her twin Barbara? (Name)?? Slept with someone and Jenna thinks she's preggers. Ever think about that?

New Year Blues, mp3

His wife Bertha invented the brownie.

Potter Palmer and his apprentice/partner Marshall Field are credited with having the first 'refund policy' in modern department stores.

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The W is ultra modern. Expensive to match. Beautiful view of Lake Michigan and Navy Pier. So glad it's a corporate expense.

Was at the top of John Hancock Tower yesterday. More beautiful Chicago views with some vertigo thrown in.
All the other surrounding buildings seem to cower backwards in awe.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/7509323

..!..

good!! am glad you go places...someday, someday me too places faces love that--grover so hates walking, i love hiking but he is so lazy...NYC metro system got him fucked up

ACLU

In a stunning admission to ABC news, President Bush declared that he knew his top national security advisers discussed and approved specific details of the CIA's use of torture. Bush also defended the use of waterboarding - simulated drowning where the victim feels like they are about to die.

Congress should long ago have gotten to the bottom of which top officials approved, condoned and authorized U.S. involvement in torture. But, now that the President has admitted to a policy of top-down torture, it's even more critical that Congress get involved. Take action: tell your members of Congress you demand accountability for torture now!