Weekend Watchdog

Seder on Sundays may have passed on into radio history, but the Weekend Watchdog lives on!

Every Friday, over at Campaign for America's Future, we post suggested questions for scheduled Sunday guests. I'll keep cross-posting them here.

You can add your own questions in the comment thread. We'll also include contact information for the shows, so you can let them know what viewers really want asked.

For Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C. (ABC's This Week): Former Bush counter-terrorism chief Richard Clarke said of the new bipartisan Senate report on the use of intelligence in the run-up to the Iraq invasion: "What it says is statements by the president were not substantiated by intelligence. And then it stays statements by the president were contradicted by available intelligence. In other words, they made things up."

As a vociferous advocate of the invasion and occupation, did you make things up that were contradicted by available intelligence? Or were you ignorant of the available intelligence and misled by the Bush administration?

and

Your less-generous version of a 21st Century GI Bill garnered little support in the Senate. Now the conservative Washington Times (via Think Progress) reports that you solicited no input from veterans organizations when drafting your legislation.

Why aren't you and your allies interested in hearing from veterans when developing legislation intended to help veterans?

For Gov. Tim Pawlenty, R-MN (Fox News Sunday): The Associated Press reported last month, "Transportation officials' concerns that fixing or replacing a Minneapolis bridge [the Interstate 35W bridge] would be a 'budget buster' may have led to bad maintenance decisions before its deadly collapse," according to a report commissioned by your state's legislature.

Did you have an anti-government conservative ideology that harmed public services and contributed to the tragic bridge collapse?

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Full list of scheduled Sunday show guests, courtesy of Fishbowl DC

Meet the Press: NBC's Ron Allen, Lee Cowan, David Gregory, Andrea Mitchell, Kelly O'Donnell and Chuck Todd.

Face the Nation: Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson, Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY), Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) and Politico's Roger Simon.

This Week: Sens. John Kerry (D-MA), Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), and a roundtable with ABC's Claire Shipman, Time's Jay Carney, George Will and Washington Post's Jonathan Capehart.

Fox News Sunday: Gov. Tim Kaine(D-VA) and Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN) and a panel with Bill Kristol, Weekly Standard & Fox News, Nina Easton, Fortune Magazine & Fox News, Brit Hume , Washington Managing Editor of Fox News and Juan Williams, National Public Radio & Fox News

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Contact info for the Sunday shows

Contact ABC's This Week by clicking here

Email CBS' Face The Nation at ftn@cbsnews.com

Email Fox News Sunday at FNS@foxnews.com

Contact NBC's Meet The Press by clicking here

Remember: always be brief, polite and respectful when contacting the media, so our voices will be taken seriously.

RFK -- Ambassador Hotel -- June 5, 2008

Ambassador Hotel footage -- 40th anniversary


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Hello, Mr. Scher!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hdj/collections/

Your weekend show is awesome; but it needs to be longer!

Mindless Menace of Violence

Robert F. Kennedy
April 5, 1968
City Club of Cleveland, Cleveland, Ohio

I'm back...

I didn't mean to stir up that hornet's nest known as alternitive ennergy and duck out...but, the landloard showed up and wanted to work on the electric.

Willow

how 'bout them financial markets..?

Huh?!

Douche Bag tries to sypher off Clinton voters to McCain

Lieberman wants non-Republicans to back McCain

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) is expanding his role as a key supporter of Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), launching a group that seeks to get non-Republicans to campaign for the presumptive GOP nominee.

Lieberman, a former Democrat, this week launched Citizens for McCain, a grassroots group that he says is “for people who put country before political party and support the candidate for president who has a proven record of bipartisanship.”

I think maybe the "oil crisis"

is exactly what we need.

The US automakers are already shutting down Truck and SUV plants and best of all, they are finally going ahead and investing in hybrid and electric technology.

About time.

This extreme volatility in the other markets has a lot of traders totally afraid and sitting out altogether. And maybe just maybe people who lost a few bucks will take a look around and notice that they still have it better than the people who literally are starving.

Peggy Noonan puts a fork in her

Former NSA director and anti-war voice dead of sudden heart atta

June 5, 2008 -- Former NSA director and anti-war voice dead of sudden heart attack

Retired Army General William Odom, who served as National Security Agency (NSA) director under President Ronald Reagan and National Security Adviser under President Jimmy Carter, died suddenly last Friday, May 30, at his Vermont home from an apparent heart attack. The Yale Daily News reported on June 4 that Odom's official cause of death would be determined by an autopsy.

Odom's death was overshadowed by election news and WMR is also belatedly reporting the general's passing.

Odom, a relative hawk under Carter and Reagan, became an early leading retired military anti-Iraq war voice. More surprisingly, Odom's condemnation of the neo-con's invasion and occupation of Iraq came while he served as a senior fellow of the neo-con Hudson Institute in Washington. More recently, Odom taught at Yale University.

On April 2, 2008, Odom reiterated his belief that the United States should rapidly withdraw its military forces from Iraq in testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. General Odom reflected a "back to basics" approach to military strategy and intelligence collection that will be sorely missed.

This editor served under General Odom at NSA in 1985.

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20080605_1

et tu, Fernando?

Peggy Noonan?

Wall Street Journal?

You don't see the ruse you're falling for?

Peggy is trying to kill both Barack and Hillary in one fell swoop.

It's the ol'..."Barack is lame and so if he could beat Hillary then she's really lame"

C'mon.

I've never felt that Peggy was anti-Barack Catherine

when?

Read the article you posted.

That's when.

Opening paragraph:

"It is the most amazing thing that a young black man who was just a few short years ago unknown to most of his countrymen—really, unknown—could, this week, win the presidential nomination of one of our two great political parties. It is even more amazing that this historic news could be overshadowed by the personal drama and spite of the woman who lost to him."

Peggy Noonan is a "Reagan Girl". She's pretty bad. Clever and dangerous.

Notice she's emphasizing his inexperience

and says nothing about his merits or policies or intelligence.

She just throws up the decoy that isn't it special that one 'negro' finally got in. Isn't that sweet. She's diminishing him and then using that to stick to beat Hillary with.

I have long disliked Peggy Noonan. She's anti-feminist, and pro-Reagan. Unfortunately, she's a skilled writer as well.

I don't see that paragraph as anti-Obama

I certainly believe that it is "a most amazing thing".

Oh come on please gang! Peggy Noonan is a fascist!

Let's refuse to pull punches. They don't. Tom Delay called Obama a Marxist today. Fight back at these fascist pigs.
Don't be afraid.

Talking with Iran

To approach talks with Iran from the usual US angle, no positive changes can occur. You and I and Obama all know this. It's like saying, "I want a 2 state solution for Palestine, but Jerusalem must solely be the capital of Israel." It's starting the dialogue with a deal breaking demand, effectively rendering negotiations pointless. An excercise in futility, as it were.

And yet Lieberman and McCain think even pointless, doomed from the start negotiations are too much.

A sad state of affairs, I'd say.

I'll read her carefully but I do not agree

Peggy is no worse than anyone else. Until I see something boneheaded, I am not taking another opinion of it because anyone says so. I have no problem being wrong and it's not pride. I'm simply saying I haven't seen it. I've never seen her promote capitalism over human rights. Ever. Does anyone have an example of that?

YOu are right

Maybe you are getting her confused with someone else?

Peggy Noonan was Reagan's speech writer and has written several books and many columns over the years.

She hasn't really wavered from the Reaganomics view of the world.

Not a problem.

But for others out there, I would like to point out that she is a trustee of the Manhattan Institute and she campaigned for GW in 2004.

'nough said.

nando

are you getting her mixed up with Catherine Crier? I always do...older blond talking head>

I am always thinking wow she has had a ton of face work! then I realize it is the other one...

Wow. Good article on firedoglake, btw

That Peggy.

What a sweet girl.

Nazi Henry Ford gets her all misty-eyed.

Peggy's the one who also coined the terms for G H W Bush: "kinder gentler nation", "a thousand points of light" [not one of her better ones], and "read my lips, no new taxes".

Yuck.

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Unraveling the nuclear smuggling racket - signs point to CIA inv

June 6-8, 2008 -- Unraveling the nuclear smuggling racket - signs point to CIA involvement

Two recent events are pointing to the distinct possibility that the CIA's nuclear counter-proliferation efforts were an attempt at putting back into the bottle the nuclear genie it helped to unleash.

Swiss President Pascal Couchepin's recent admission that Switzerland destroyed some 30,000 documents dealing with the involvement of Swiss engineer Friedrich Tinner and his sons Urs and Marco on charges that they helped provide nuclear technology to Pakistan's nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer (AQ) Khan and Khan's recent recanting of his previous admission that he helped smuggle nuclear technology to North Korea, Libya, and Iran all point to an effort to sweep under the carpet the CIA's tacit involvement with providing Pakistan, and by default, Libya, Iran, and North Korea, with nuclear technology. WMR previously reported that Urs Tinner is a suspected CIA agent who likely worked with Valerie Plame Wilson's Brewster Jennings & Associates non-official cover firm.

Khan now claims he was coerced by the Pervez Musharraf government, acting under pressure from the Bush administration, to make his confession. On May 31, 2006, WMR reported: "the Swiss Federal Prosecutor's Office has complained to the United States that the Bush administration has failed to cooperate with Switzerland's efforts to track the A Q Khan nuclear proliferation network. The Bush administration's multiple refusals to assist Switzerland in probing the Khan network, which was a major target of the CIA's Counter-Proliferation Division, Brewster Jennings Associates, and Valerie Plame Wilson, was revealed by former UN weapons inspector David Albright. Switzerland arrested three members of the Tinner family -- Friedrich, Urs, and Marco -- for illegally supplying centrifuges from a Malaysian company to Libya. Urs Tinner has been rumored to have been a U.S. intelligence asset. Switzerland has received cooperation in its probe from Southeast Asian nations, including Malaysia and Thailand, and South Africa. All three are key transit points for nuclear materials involving Russian-Israeli Mafia assets who, in turn, are linked to top members of the Bush administration, including Vice President Dick Cheney."

High gas prices...

...and potholes.

" In Washington county Maryland deputy public works director Robert slocum has the money and materials to fill potholes. But the high price of oil based asphalt has him rethinking major re paving work the prices go up -- correct fit. Is it or unable to do his department's paying 60% more than a year ago same story around the country in Larrimore county Colorado where they normally resurfaced twenty miles of road every summer this year. They can only afford to do seven Steve case and CBS news."

http://multimedia.wbz.com/m/20098752/my_wbz_afternoon_headlines_06_06.ht...

Should make a great ride to get to work. If you can park your car and use public transportation, if accessible, you spend more time getting to and from. Further, eroding personal down time.

Hit and run... later.....

On February 19, 2008, WMR reported: "it was discovered from the revelations by former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds that Turkish, Israeli, and Pakistani agents were key members of the nuclear smuggling ring. WMR has now learned from Swiss sources that last November, the Swiss Federal Council, the Bundesrat, passed a secret resolution to destroy critical evidence in the Tinner case. Among the documents ordered destroyed were plans and drawings involving nuclear weapons. The documents had been seized by Swiss prosecutors in their case against the Tinners. WMR has further learned that the Bush administration put pressure on the Swiss to cease their prosecution of the Tinners and destroy all the evidence seized."

The Swiss carried out one part of the Bush administration request, the destruction of the documents. However, the three Tinners remain in prison in Switzerland.

The global nuclear smuggling racket reached a peak in 1990 and 1991 and at the same time Dick Cheney served as President George H. W. Bush's Defense Secretary. WMR previously reported that this smuggling also involved the disposition of apartheid South Africa's nuclear arsenal. On February 28, 2008, WMR reported:

"[Dr. David Kelly, the British Defense Ministry scientist] knew of nuclear weapons proliferation involving three South African nuclear bombs assembled with the help of Israeli nuclear scientists at the covert South African nuclear weapons facility at Pelindaba nuclear research facility, near Pretoria. International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors who visited Pelindaba and the state-owned Armaments Corporation of South Africa (ARMSCOR) Advena nuclear facility near Pretoria in 1990 and 1991 were tricked into believing that South Africa's nuclear weapons had all been dismantled by the outgoing apartheid regime. However, three South African nuclear weapons were reportedly sold to 'private investors' with the up-front money coming from British government coffers.

Reimbursement for the ARMSCOR nuclear weapons was made to Britain only after the three weapons, spirited out of South Africa in three 20' ISO standard containers, arrived at a private storage facility in Oman for safekeeping. The containers had a special seal on the lock of the rear door of each container along with a temperature gauge in the front of the containers that was connected to the core of the bombs to indicate that the bomb was not overheating inside the containers.

There are indications that one of the bombs was eventually sold to North Korea.

WMR has also learned that the nuclear smuggling operations involved top members of the British Conservative Party, including individuals close to Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. The Tory party soon received a mystery donation of £17.8 million. The donation was filed with the Tory party's Fiscal Year 1992 Annual Accounts filed with Companies House. An insider at the Tory party's Central Office tipped off a Labor Party Member of Parliament, Doug Hoyle, about the mystery donation. It turned out that the Tory MP in question was Tim Smith. Smith had been an MP for Beaconsfield since 1982 when he defeated a little-known Labor candidate named Tony Blair."

In A Q Khan's refutation of his previous confession, he states that it was European nations and South Africa, not him, that arranged for the smuggling of nuclear technology to Libya and Iran. He told McClatchy in an interview from house arrest in Islamabad: "The Germans, the South Africans and the French all have those drawings. They were the suppliers. You can’t blame me for it. They were selling and making money. Why put the blame on me?"

Khan did have a well-established relationship with Swiss companies. From 1977 to 1981, Cora Engineering of Switzerland reportedly provided materials on three occasions for Khan. After a bomb exploded in front of the Swiss home of a Cora employee and a phone call from an English-speaking person was placed to Cora's offices that demanded the firm stop supplying nuclear technology to Pakistan or the next time a bomb would explode inside the employee's living room, Cora stopped its relationship with Khan.

Similar threatening calls were placed to Switzerland's Vakuum-Apparate-Technik (VAT), a manufacturer of centrifuges located in the small town of Haag on the Swiss border with Liechtenstein, and the German firm Leybold AG. After the phone threat and Cora's cessation of business with Pakistan, the firm received another call to ensure the company had actually stopped business with Pakistan. Officials of the firm believed the calls were placed by Mossad.

After Cora and VAT stopped dealing with Pakistan, Friedrich Tinner, an ex-VAT engineer, created CETEC in 1981, and the company subsequently became Phitec AG. Tinner picked up the contracts with Pakistan.

I can't believe how naive some of you still are. You don't even

know who the fascists are. Tsk tsk! By the way, Catherine Crier is a liberal. Not a far lefty, but a liberal.

This didn't need to happen

First up, as Ron Kuby prepares to begin his career as Air America Radio's new afternoon host, it appears he'll have one less station carrying him. WXXM (92.1FM) in Madison has opted to pick up a delay of Thom Hartmann's show to fill the 2-5P CT slot. - LTR

We weren't the only one thinking AAR's management has pudding in their heads.

Peggy Noonan et. al.

Any political writer or TV/Radio bobblehead who has risen to "celebrity" status is no longer a jouralist and worthy of consideration. By reading, and subsequently supporting, them you are only adding to their ratings and filling your "beautiful mind" with garbage.

These celebrity political media types are not trying to educate and illuminate, they are writing soap operas to keep them in front of the camera so they can keep making their millions. It's so evident when all they talk about are personalities and hardly ever about policies and processes.

Go watch some GRITtv and see real people talking about real problems. I learned more about women issues (foreign and domestic) this week watching that show than a year of MSNBC and I only watch KO regularly.

Take the media into your own hands...

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From Wes Clark

Some of you worked tirelessly for Senator Clinton while others poured hours into Senator Obama's campaign. You did this because you were willing to sacrifice your time and energy to bring the change we so desperately need. I can't thank you enough for all you have done.

Now I am asking you to come together and make sure Barack Obama is our next president. This is a critical mission.

Hillary Clinton ran an amazing race. She inspired millions. Our party is a better party because of her campaign, and our nation is a better nation because of her service. She is and will always be a friend whom I admire.

I congratulate Senator Barack Obama on securing the nomination. His historic campaign has touched lives and his message has moved people in every corner of America. I believe he is not only ready for the challenge but will be a great President.

It's time our party comes together to stand behind Senator Obama as we move forward in this election season. I look forward to doing everything I can to help Senator Obama's campaign. While I respect John McCain's service, I know exactly what he stands for -- Bush's third term. America is a great nation, and our people deserve more. We need Barack Obama to be our next president.

Sincerely,

Wes Clark

RE: Nooners

Submitted by Fernando on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 6:59pm.

I'll read her carefully but I do not agree Peggy is no worse than anyone else. Until I see something boneheaded, I am not taking another opinion of it because anyone says so. I have no problem being wrong and it's not pride. I'm simply saying I haven't seen it. I've never seen her promote capitalism over human rights. Ever. Does anyone have an example of that?

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Fernando:

Can't speak to the capitalism vs. human rights issue directly, tho' I have little doubt where WSJ Peggy would come down on that issue.

But w/all due respect:

Have to agree, on balance, w/Catharine's estimation that Peggy "Nooners" Noonan, imo, is a cloying, unctuous sophist. A classic party-over-country GOP operative who embodies the quote:

"It is difficult to get a man [or woman! even Nooners!] to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

-- Upton Sinclair

RE: Nooners

When deliberating the age-old question -- liar or fool? -- I mos. def. come down on "liar" in Nooner's case. She ain't no dummy and she knows how to artfully massage language to impart a false impression w/o leaving her fingerprints behind. She is deliberately misleading. Often. imo.

(Dubya's a dummy but he had plenty o' Nooner-like life-forms making the same sorts a arguments pre-Iraq-war, a-course. Same sorta approach, imo. "SADDAM HAS SCARY SCARY LINKS TO ALQAEDA! SADDAM IS THIS CLOSE TO NUKES!" etc.)

That said, having read the column in question, on balance I think what we are witnessing is the cognitive confusion that inevitably occurs when a body considers a well-known (dishonest) source (i.e. Nooners) and realizes that even a stopped clock can chime fortuitously twice a day.

fwiw, here's Glenn Greenwald's dissection of one of Nooner's subtleties with the after-the-fact denials of the GOP Godhead.

http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/10/peggy-noonan-and-rotting-pund...

belly

dr, (nice to see you here again) as usual you cut right

to the bone about old Peggy. I just cut right to the chase and called her a fascist. I love different styles.

Left a message on the previous blog

Havin fun in the old town tonite!

Known. Verb. Object!

dr, (nice to see you here again)

Submitted by Regnad Kcin on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 8:20pm.
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Tx. If you is a full-blown known known, let yer reknown be known, on account of I don't known yer nick.

(Could be my early Alzheimers, too, so pls. forgive if that's to blame.)

dam im good even if i have to say so myself

WOW!

Hillary's power-play for veep prolly means, tx., she won't be VP

Here's what I finds inneresting about Hillary's campaign vis a vis her potentialities for doin' good (or ill) in/w/for Iraq.

Hillary started her campaign w/a piece-a-cake, walk-in-the-park kinda air-a-inevitability non-chalance, vastly (mis)understimating her opponent(s).

Hillary (repeatedly) showed a tin ear re: the outrage over the Iraq war (the actual reason she eventually lost, imo), having to be forced to amend/change her position mid-campaign by them troublesome voters.

Once it was clear to all save her (and her self-serving inner circle) that she had lost the campaign -- i.e. once Obama won 11 straight contests -- Hillary clung to the non-race like the nomination was owed to her, like she was being cheated, and she ran a very, let's face it, shabby Republican-style rear-guard me-over-party-over-country divisive embarrassment of a campaign.

("To my knowledge he's not a Muslim." -- paraphrase, but a rhetorical construction worthy of Nooners, among many.)

So. Let's review.

Hillary jumps in thinking it's gonna be a cakewalk.

Hillary changes tactics, not strategy, on the war issue, but only by compulsion.

Hillary selfishly wallows in a lost-cause rather than admit reality.

Considering her campaign, take it all around, prolly not the person a body wants inheriting the reins in Iraq.

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Wow.

I still got it!

dr do you wanna say something to me?

nice reading you again, i know you always have had it in for me from day one...say what you need to say i am listening

take your lick too

i have become very numb right about now, if that is what you think of me that i what you think i cannot change your mind, but i am going to me regardless...nothing that i have posted ever here is a lie...but, if that is how you read me than hey!! what can i tell you i really am a genius

dr: "Ready to have it in for you on Day One!"

dr do you wanna say something to me?

Submitted by Lucille on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 8:52pm.

nice reading you again, i know you always have had it in for me from day one...say what you need to say i am listening

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That were a short-hop welcome, Lucille, and I'm like to bobble it, but here goes:

Tain't zackly sure why you feels I is "had it in for" you "from day one". Evidently it's a long-held conviction.

Can only sez:

I ain't got it "in for" nobody "from day one".

It's sorta like the difference betwixt somes conception of "evil".

Somes thinks "evil" exists in the world. I don't.

I thinks peoples commits what might be considered "evil" acts. Peoples also acts like asses. Peoples acts ungenerous 'n unkind 'n unconsiderate to their fellow mens 'n womens. But not always. Them acts don't necessarily define them.

I knows on account of I is been alla them bad things my own self at one time or another. Tain't proud to sez, but it's true.

So if my objection to whatever you mighta said in the past is the crux of the biscuit here, I can assure you for all me it ain't no impediment save present 'n future considerations.

Somes thinks "evil" exists in the world. I don't.

good than i am glad for your clean mind...walk in my shoes and talk to me again about good and evil--i read what i read so do you i guess...

i wish i could be you but cannot and for that i apologize

on account of I don't known yer nick.

Yes. I agree. I am very forgettable and try to stay that way. You don't know my nick because it is a kcin. Simple as that. I have always remained behind the mirror.

i love being here coz of the laughter others come for

their reasons...yes! i am one stubbon mutha fucka and maybe that is a good thing coz it brought me a long long way, love me or hate me i cannot be you---aint no two people alike

Lu, David will chew you up, but...

he's a decent sort and usually spits you back out to reform. Don't be sad.

nick ((back off))

please

nick danger is right

on account of I don't known yer nick.

Submitted by Regnad Kcin on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 9:13pm.

Yes. I agree. I am very forgettable and try to stay that way. You don't know my nick because it is a kcin. Simple as that. I have always remained behind the mirror.

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Not that you are very forgettable t'all 'n no offense intended.

(Sheesh, I'm off to my usual rotten start.)

What I was axin' was had you had a differnt nick once't b/c I don't 'member seein' Nick Danger (back'ards) afore.

If you was here in Feb. and before as Nick Danger (back'ards), I apologize for missin' your nick.

This is Deep

Can you throw a brother a ain't-no-thing-but-a-chicken-wing-bone

"Somes thinks "evil" exists in the world. I don't."

Submitted by Lucille on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 9:10pm.

good than i am glad for your clean mind...walk in my shoes and talk to me again about good and evil--i read what i read so do you i guess...

i wish i could be you but cannot and for that i apologize

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Your response, to me, is inscrutable.

Perhaps we can cut to the chase.

I'll boil mine down to its essence:

If we is disagreed in the past, it ain't no impediments to the present nor the future.

That were my point.

What were yours?

what is with all these mind games

I feel like I am in outer limits...wtf...

at least now I get the nick danger thing...

so how do ya like those

Giants...

inscrutable.

wtf does that mean

That were my point.

just figured out you are a man

dr! :)

Hey - whoa - and - wowie...!

How are you? Where ya been? Missed ya round here... What's new?

"I'm not dumb but I can't unnerstand ..."

That were my point.

Submitted by Lucille on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 9:36pm.

just figured out you are a man

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Sounds eerily like the lyrics to "Lola".

Registrar Responds:

Peace and Freedom Party Members Get Non Partisan Ballots

A number of Peace and Freedom Party members were given “non partisan” rather than Peace and Freedom Party ballots on Tuesday in Alameda County, registrar Dave Macdonald acknowledged Thursday in an interview with the Daily Planet.

He explained that there are two lists that poll workers use, a “roster index”—a master list—and a street-level list. Peace and Freedom Party members were identified on the street-level list as “non partisan,” which means they would be given general ballots, allowing them to vote only on state-wide propositions.

Macdonald said the problem was due to “our printer that made a mistake.”

Similar problems were noted in San Francisco and Los Angeles counties.
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Catherine Crier

Submitted by mhappenow on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 7:15pm.
are you getting her mixed up with Catherine Crier?
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Submitted by Regnad Kcin on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 7:31pm.
...By the way, Catherine Crier is a liberal. Not a far lefty, but a liberal.
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After hearing her interviewed during the book tour, I bought and read The Case Against Lawyers by Catherine Crier. I recommend it.

Crier falls into that group of people I like to call "A fuck of a lot smarter than I am." Following is a link to a synopsis of the book.

http://books.google.com/books?id=hzcIAAAACAAJ&dq=inauthor:Catherine+inau...

"I looked at her, and she at me"

Love that/this song... :)

cuz how oft does a body get to call his life an epic debauchery?

dr! :)

Submitted by Alice on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 9:40pm.

Hey - whoa - and - wowie...!

How are you? Where ya been? Missed ya round here... What's new?

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We don't allus agrees 'n sez what a body will about dear sweet Alice, but that were a proper welcome from a kind lady.

Wowie right back atcha!

I is been otherwise engaged in one a my periodic epic debaucheries.

Met a young lady in Chicago, went Floridy, went to Spain, now gotta leave here in a coupla weeks for AK to try 'n pay for it all.

How'z you?

mmpphh

mmpphh!

no impediment...

I wonder...

Welcome back David

Epic debaucheries with a young lady in Chicago

*high five!*

Spain musta been cool...what's it like there..?...I'll narrow that down...favorite meal from the trip?

Well..lemme see...I moved into a new office today...right in the middle of the Circulation area where I work...I feel like Lou Grant now...sitting at my desk with Mary, Murray & Ted in front of me working... :) Prolly nabbed a few cats since I saw you last too...Daisy, Boy Bobbi, Snowwflake and Purdy Girl....Yup...a few

Hey Nobody...did you get my email?

I'm not sure I have your correct address...

Give It A Lot Of Time

Submitted by mhappenow on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 9:31pm.
...at least now I get the nick danger thing...
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[Note to self: Never jump to the conclusion that a joke was wasted.]

"Crier falls into that group of people I like to call

"A fuck of a lot smarter than I am."

Yeah Crank, agreed. She's better looking too.

Crier is one of the few "tv journalists" who I still respect.

Very sharp and clear headed. Not as far left as I would like (what judges are?), but a straight shooter.

"The Case Against Lawyers" sounds a little like "A Gathering of Crows". I'll put it on my endless list....

yes alice...

Sort of...I got the alert that an email was received from someone on my list at msn but its obnoxious to d/l those emails from my phone so I haven't read it yet...

However my phone email is identical except after the @ its tmo.blackberry.net if you'd like to resend it to here.

Did you get my number from Sunshine?

cent, this may be old news

http://www.samsedershow.com/node/3234#comment-215888
Submitted by pbtrue1 on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 7:15pm.
but I dug a bit deeper today

Moyers is on

later

Sam would enjoy the Spanish sidre!

Submitted by Alice on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 9:51pm.

*high five!*

Spain musta been cool...what's it like there..?...I'll narrow that down...favorite meal from the trip?

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Spain were cool. Were all new on me. Far's Europe goes, been mostly in Deutschland 'n Italia in pastimes.

Lotta mountains in the north coast where we was. Walked the Camino del Santiago del Norte, a religious pilgrimmage route (created in classic religious boosterism form sometime in the early medieval ages -- on the flimsy story of Christian apostle St. James's bones bein' -- it's a miracle! -- discovered! in Spain and for St. James's Joshua-like deliverance in slaughtering the infidel enemy -- in this case, the Moors). The justification for the camino is absolutely absurd, a-course, but that just made it even more choice, far's me 'n my companion was concerned.

(The words "snarky apostate" come to mind.)

Most walks the Camino Francais, goin' from east in the Pyrennees Mts. to the west and the catedral in Santiago de Compostela, but the terrain from Burgos to Leon on the Camino Francais ain't nothing but arid treeless plains hotter'n-hell-cow-pissin'-onna-flat-rock uninnerestin', so the mountain route we took, tho' much harder, was much more enjoyable. We started hikin' the mountains in the Basque country, goin' backwards on the trail (that backwards trek stopped more'n a few pilgrims hearts, thinkin' they wuz the ones that were trekkin' backwards) from Pamplona (runnin' a the bulls town) to St. Jean Pied-de-Port in France, then goin' westward along the mountainous coast to Santiago de Compostela.

Fave meal: in Madrid there were a restaurant I forgets the name of where Cervantes is sposed (yeah, right) to a stayed 'n we had us some oxtail soup 'n lubina (sea bass) 'n a pricy bottle a wine 'n a buncha other bread/cheese/mushroom delicacies that were muchly good, but (phillistine that I is) it were my opinion that the pricey wine warn't no better'n the 3-euro bottles we usual got.

Not that anyone cares, but also caught a buncha lubinas, trout in the mountains round Cornellana (the salmons was gone already) and a buncha shad-like fishes 'bout 24-inches long that a buncha locals kept clapping me on the shoulder for congratulating me on my marvelous catch of salmon.

Don't know what they wuz, but they warn't salmons.

Perhaps someone can jog my memory -

In the very earliest days of the AARgh blogs, I was corresponding with a blogger who claimed to have been a 'fishing buddy' of Cheeney, when the Dick was a congressman from Wyoming...does anyone else remember who that might have been?

I do have your #...

As my email explains, P will NEVER understand why I would like to speak with you on the phone..so I have to wait for a good moment to call over this weekend..and so I asked you what is the latest time I can call you...

-Never jump to the conclusion that a joke was wasted.-

That's a good point..jokes could be like advice, or inspiration later realized or something...they might take time to have their full impact... :)

Reminds me that I realize Lou Grant, in fact, had a separate office from Mary et. al. ...so basically I told the same joke all day and it wasn't even accurate.. :)

Israel Threatens

Traders also zeroed in on remarks by an Israeli Cabinet minister, who was quoted as saying his country will attack Iran if it doesn't abandon its nuclear program. Transportation Minister Shaul Mofaz added that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "will disappear before Israel does," the Yediot Ahronot daily reported.

Who believes Israel did this without US backing?*

Our Middle east attack dog.

.TLL*

I wonder is I wonder wonderful?

no impediment...

Submitted by Nobody on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 9:50pm.

I wonder...

Welcome back David

_______________

More a "hey,-I-gots-me-some-consistent-'puter-access finally!" (get yer dirty cyber hands offa that one, Crank!) blog-by, but tx. nonetheless.

You just keep furrowing yer lion's mane.

Wonder makes the world go round.

I spent a few months on the Costa Del Sol in 1967 -

the King was in exile, the Guardia ran the day-to-day lives of the folks. I hung out with brit, french, german, dutch, scandanavian ex-pats (I was one of exactly two Americans). I supported myself by free-diving and spearfishing for pulpo (octopus) which i'd trade for meals at the local restaurants.
it was the summer of 'Sgt.Peppers'.

It was a pretty terrific 'coming of age' experience.

Because of edna ellen, I pulled out the 1937 atlas I have at my

desk today to find Palestine..and thar she was...I am a map idiot..but I didn't even see the word Israel on that map...and I think Persia is a pretty word...

Maybe

Israel was created only to be 'in there' for the oil around it from the git..? Ima history idiot too..so..take that under advisement... :)

cigarettes were 'celtas' and the local wine (no label) cost

3 pesetas/liter - but one needed to line one's stomach with a condensed milk product (like 'yoo-hoo') before a night of drinking.

Thanks PB.

Old news...yes. Enough bribery and you could get a plane in the air at DefCon one.

I don't get the tie in with the ponies though... I'm admittedly a little sun stroked today...tough week.

Moyers...another of "The Few"....his corporate stock portfolio not withstanding...yet.

Hi rctowns.. :)

Fish lives in WY...

Nas

Beat of Bo Diddley

Diddley's raw confidence put a frown on more than a few faces. Several radio personalities referred to his songs as "jungle music." Others recognized the significance, such as Cleveland disc jockey Alan Freed who pegged Diddley as "a man with an original sound, who is going to rock and roll you right out of your seat." This was one of the first recorded instances of the term "rock 'n' roll."

The short-changing of Diddley's influence would continue for decades. In spite of the very prominent role that blacks played in influencing rock 'n' roll, until recently most histories tended to focus more heavily on white performers such as Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee Lewis, and Elvis Presley. "Elvis was not first," Diddley angrily told Rolling Stone in 2005, "I was the first son of a gun out here: me and Chuck Berry. And I'm very sick of the lie. You know, we are over that black-and-white crap, and that was all the reason Elvis got the appreciation that he did. I'm the dude that he copied, and I'm not even mentioned."

The inspiration Diddley provided is absolutely undeniable, though. The Harlem-based Amsterdam News, reviewing one of Presley's first performances in 1956, stated that he had "copied Bo Diddley's style to the letter." He was obviously not alone. According to George R. White, author of Bo Diddley -- Living Legend, "The powerful amplification and driving rhythms he pioneered evolved into hard rock during the Sixties and continue to influence the heavy-metal bands of today. His clipped, string-scratching technique laid the foundations for funk. Jimi Hendrix picked up on his ideas." Joe Strummer would invite Diddley to open for the Clash on their first tour of America, and later recorded Diddley's "Mona" during their rehearsal sessions. His later experiments with funk would be sampled by De La Soul in the 90s.
Alexander Billet
*TLL*

What's an octopus look like while its being stabbed?

Just curious...

Like Squidley Didley?

;)

Octopussy: Pulpo Non-fiction

I spent a few months on the Costa Del Sol in 1967 -

Submitted by rctowns on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 10:31pm.

the King was in exile, the Guardia ran the day-to-day lives of the folks. I hung out with brit, french, german, dutch, scandanavian ex-pats (I was one of exactly two Americans). I supported myself by free-diving and spearfishing for pulpo (octopus) which i'd trade for meals at the local restaurants.
it was the summer of 'Sgt.Peppers'.

It was a pretty terrific 'coming of age' experience.

_________________

Ah, a fellow ink-stained wretch.

(Sounds like a swell place to spend the summer of love; me, I warn't borned yet, tho' apparently the idea of me were already conceived, so to speak.)

Weird, Thespy...

We both said didley/diddley...

*♡* ^

**

*TLL*

*TLL*

Did you see this month's cover of Rolling Stone, TLL

?

REM?

Something about lots of classic acts on tour? Was REM on the cover?
*TLL*

any time alice...

Especially after 9 pm (grin)

If you pour hot water on your propane tank

where it begins to get colder..is where the line of propane is, if you don't have a gauge to tell you...

Willow

Whose Epigone?

*TLL*

Do those shrunken

youtube videos slow down the blog for dialups?
*TLL*

Evening all

Hey dr!! Been traveling I see.

Good to see you on the blog.

I've been to Spain several times. I must have missed what part you were staying. I've been mostly to the Costa Del Sol once setting up a golf trip. Several good golf courses there. And a few good Casinos as well. Did you get to a Flamenco show?

I saw Eddie Van Halen, and Jimmy Page...

apparently there are more...Takes too long for the site to load..but there are more..but the inside cartoon of Eddie Van Halen is so bad..doesn't look anything like him...

Remembering Bo Diddley

*

For Lucille...

(I didn't read it, but it does say Lucille.... and I thought that might make you happy...)

B.B. KING: THE ESSENTIAL ALBUM GUIDE The Blues Icon's Greatest Licks; Plus Why He Sometimes Swears at Lucille

After 9pm..

you got it..

Hoping not to be repetitious

Thanks for the pics, Harold...

Gus

Odin

Newer bloggers might not be aware that Odin had his leg removed in surgery a while back...cool bengal cat...

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Hi Toni :)

The Machinery

I saw Eddie Van Halen, and Jimmy Page...

I knew that wasn't Michael Stipe....Hey, it was late. 4AM at a 7/11. Bad coffee and donuts.
*TLL*

The Machinery Submitted by

The Machinery
Submitted by Alice on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 11:17pm.
of Hope

"The Machinery of a Con" is more like it.
*TLL*

Hi zeek.. I know that art, but didn't know that name..

-"We were just having fun making posters," said Mouse. "There was no time to think about what we were doing. It was a furious time, but I think most great art is created in a furious moment."-


cool...

eya DR!

how ya doin ol snort!

loved the cannonball into the pool!

(heh!)

Spearfishing And Going All Wussy Over It

Submitted by rctowns on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 10:31pm
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My cephalopod hunting career was cut short when I concluded that there was more going on inside their heads than I had wanted to admit. I quit taking octopi first. They were too easy but the squid were really difficult to shoot. Taking a squid required a long, motionless, patient wait as the circle closed in on me, and a precise shot.

But I quit taking squid too...probably as much because my skills improved and the challenge diminished as because of my growing sense of guilt.

Since those days I have done some reading about cephalopods. Studies have revealed some pretty sophisticated problem solving skills and memories. I don't think that I was as crazy as the Puerto Rican and West Indian fisherman thought I was.

Or maybe I'm just a bleeding heart Liberal with a debilitating case of empathy.

sound of silence

over'n'out

Submitted by toniD on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 11:04pm.

Hey dr!! Been traveling I see.

Good to see you on the blog.

I've been to Spain several times. I must have missed what part you were staying. I've been mostly to the Costa Del Sol once setting up a golf trip. Several good golf courses there. And a few good Casinos as well. Did you get to a Flamenco show?

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Hi, Toni!

Was in Madrid for about a week (saw a Goya exhibition I very much enjoyed; Picasso, too, but not so much), hadda rental car and toured northern Spain 'n dipped into Portugal for a spell, then went backpackin'/hikin' in the mountains in the Basque country 'n along the northern coast on the way to the northwestern city of Santiago.

No flamenco shows. (Public ones, anyways.) Hadda funny incident happent w/a sheet swallowin' up a pair a panties 'n a upright Basque woman's earthy reaction to same, but it's a little blue for sharin'.

Ain't read but a few back threads recent, but I thought I read where you ain't feelin' well. Maybe havin' surgery?

If so, hope you rebound soon. Missed yer scrappy fire, Miss Toni.

....

Hope all are well. Gonna pack 'er in.

Night, owls.

Did you know

That flowers evolved and that they developed different colors to attract insects? Like, they were wooing them. Plants as wooers. I find the whole line of thought fascinating.

Speaking of florals.. http://storage.canalblog.com/60/37/27891/7775274.jpg

Stolen From Letterman

Top ten signs that your neighbor is a space alien.

1.) He's bald, grey and creepy but he's not Dick Cheney.

[Edited because I blew the joke by including "not" between "is" and "a."]

That's splendid... (and no, Annette..I have NO idea why I said

splendid...) :)

Speaking of florals.. http://storage.canalblog.com/60/37/27891/7775274.jpg

Tell more about teaching Sunday School, if you wanna...I am interested...

Night Dr

Goya exhibit. Would have liked to see that myself. Picasso also, but Goya! Come back soon dr. Thanks for the well wishes.

Evening Alice. What happening at the library? You have a new office?

I was suppose to work 2 hour and ended up working 4. Our Water Park opens tomorrow so we were busy selling pool passes.

Hey Alice! Sunday School teaching is Okay -

I have 5th graders, and I just started teaching them in January. The bad thing is, the curriculum is designed for kindergarteners. So what I do is, I play the christian rock station, and we sit in a circle, read the text to which the activity applies, and try to relate it to a life lesson. Something they can relate to their own life.

I find that half of these kids are incredibly shallow, self centered, and have no idea what true bad times are about - CEO's kids, mostly. Sheltered as hell, and very wealthy. So, to accommodate them, I keep it simple. I do have a few that I can sense have had hard lives. One girl in particular, a quiet one, comes in early. We talk about her family some, but she's very guarded. Last week I had to tape up her finger with some duct tape and a popsicle stick I found in the cabinet (thank God for that Girlscouts First Aid certification) because she'd jammed her finger and her mom had forgotten to wrap it.

Democrat Party no longer accepting Washington Lobbhyist Donation

Translation - we gotta step it up, people.

http://democrats.org/a/2008/06/democratic_part_10.php

I've already given $50..

'nando - if you're around, I heard another one today on the way home from the dinosaur exhibit. Another mother in my son's boyscout troop, who goes to our church, was reading me an email which she accessed from her cellphone so she could read it to me. It was supposedly an email from missionaries in Kenya talking about how much trouble Obama's family had caused in Kenya, blaming his family for the turmoil there, and going on and on with facts that sounded legitimate about how he was going to declare a jihad once he took office. The email was very damaging, I think. I just heard her reading it, I haven't seen it.

Mona


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2 - 4 = Debt

toniD,

You might want to review the arithmetic of a two hour shift and four dollar gasoline.

Workin on it...

Wifey just reminded me this week makes one year since my last porterhouse.

12 months. No meat. Feels good.

Chicken is next. Which is going to be harder than kicking crack...I am profoundly addicted to good fried chicken.

Maybe some day I will be able to sustain my existence without killing anything. Animal anyway.

It's like an office..

and not a cube exactly..I like it now..It's a brown cubicle wall, 6ft, and a blue/grey 3ft cubicle wall on the other side, and the desk is diagonal in between them...and I look out on the circ. desk so I can go help with there is a third person in line....We are all exhilarated at work now from moving in and out and rearraning all sorts of desks, people, furniture, and all..It's been fun..

What does your office environment look like? I have an image of it in my head...

Whoa Annette...I can get sued for putting a bandaid on a kid..

we're only allowed to hand one to them...

The lib. kids here seem to be all about 'bad times'...

I'm not sure I understand what the christian rock station has to do with the activity? Or do you mean you put it on in the background while doing the activity from the curriculum? Are those lessons different by church? Or is there a central place they come from like a publisher or what?

~Goya~

[Edited because I forgot to put the Goya...]

It's too hard to choose one...


I chose this one because my Nono and Nona had a similar painting on the wall most of my life....

*

Open up your mind and let me step inside
Rest your weary head and let your heart decide
It's so easy when you know the rules
It's so easy all you have to do
Is fall in love
Play the game
Ev'rybody play the game of love

When you're feelin' down and your resistance is low
Light another cigarette and let yourself go
This is your life
Don't play hard to get
It's a free world
All you have to do is fall in love
Play the game everybody play the game of love

My game of love has just begun
Love runs from my head down to my toes
My love is pumping through my veins (play the game)
Driving me insane
Come come come come play the game play the game play
the game play the game

Play the game everybody play the game of love

This is your life - don't play hard to get
It's a free free world all you have to do is fall in love
Play the game yeah play the game of love
Your life - don't play hard to get
It's a free free world all you have to do is fall in love
Play the game - ev'rybody play the game of love...

*

That's funny..and school starts in August..and I don't think we're getting off easy with a half semester like last time..so get ready... start buffin up or whatever it is you do.. ;)

I Would but I only live 4 miles from work.

Submitted by Crank Bait on Sat, 06/07/2008 - 12:21am.
toniD,

You might want to review the arithmetic of a two hour shift and four dollar gasoline.

I wouldn't do it had I lived any further.

Too Many Games

My office area is

|-------------------------|
|......C.........C........|
|
|C
|

A Diagram as best I can do. My Computer desk area is in the lobby. A long counter that we sit behind and 3 computer stations. Opposite is a sitting area for about 20 people with a TV. And the Fitness Center is to the left with window open to the lobby by the entry door. The computer on the left side if the Fitness computer station with a scanner for the member id cards. That's about it.

Alice

Sorry I left for awhile but I'm back.

My office is rectangular. My desk takes up one of the short ends. One long end is a solid wall of windows overlooking Kansas. 4th floor, we're on a big hill, you can see for miles. The other long side is half open space opening out into the hallway, the other half is a wall. My office has no door.

As for the Sunday School - I play the Christian rock because it's what the teenagers listen to, and these are preteens, so it's a subtle message that I'm not going to treat them like a kid the way the people across the hall are about to do (I only have them for 15 minutes and then we go to large group where the story and songs are bozo-the-clownish). Yes the lessons are different by church. No central publisher.

I've known you a long time on this Blog, T..and that is the

cutest thing EVER, your diagram for you office...Which of the C's do you sit at? Or do you switch around?

My idea was of you was in a taller single person desk like a podium sort of...and a forest-service-like or park service, green derby type shiny jacket with cotton ribbed cuffs and collar....and a standard issue khaki type pants with a job-issued button down shirt...

:)

- solid wall of windows overlooking Kansas-

Neat...

..*still reading*

- My office has no door.-

I've only had one personal office door in my career..and Jobete Music..and I have never known, and still don't who, how and when it's "PC" to close an office door....Do you know?

An example

Let's discuss last week. The Bible text was the story of the tower of Babylon. The activity was for the children to trace different letters (all unrecognized from different alphabets) from sheets that were provided that contained Japanese, Hebrew, and Arabic. Then there was another activity for them to try and write the symbols on index cards and then try to build a tower with the cards.

These are 11 and 12 year olds. Trust me, they're not apprecative of the activities.

It's PC to close an office door...

when..your boss is out of the office; when you're on your lunch break; when you're with a client. And before and after hours.

Yep, that's about it...

-I'm not going to treat them like a kid -

These are alos pre-teen...My "first" kid turned 11 today and I made sure to ask all the 'bosses' if it was basically, legal, to give this kid a birthday card..and it was ok..So I got him this Napoloeon Dynamite musical card about 'skills'..it's funny I think...hope he does..I even had them 'approve' what I wrote on it...

As for music with these guys, (the girl kids I know less of)...but the music goes from hip-hop (if it;'s even still called that), and to rock...and then to that like that so-called suicidal type rock..the doomsday rock I guess...

-Trust me, they're not apprecative of the activities.-

Maybe like Crank and his jokes, they will be understood in 'due time'

;)....

Alice, have you seen the email I wrote about on an earlier post?

The one from Kenyan missionaries?

I hadn't seen that one...

weird cloud

I don't know if I have or not...

tell me.

I alternate the computer stations.

These are shared computer stations. We do have a uniform per se. Navy polo with the PD logo and we can either wear navy slacks or khaki. When I first started the polos were a horrid green. We have a Jean Shirt with the logo as well.

Someone had the idea of branding, so the PD is changing it's logo and the colors. They haven't made a decision on the colors yet.

My eyes are beginning to close so good night all!

Queen

Insight from a Republican delegate

Chelsea picks an airline

In what is being called a preview for tomorrow, Chelsea addressed the Texas State Convention today:

I guess this means they are taking United Airlines? Source. At least that's how I interpreted THIS.
"My mother wanted me to be very clear - we are going to united," Chelsea told Texas Democrats.

Update: Chelsea did not endorse the airline. The quote is out of context and should read:
“My mother wants it to be very clear that we are going to unite our party and take back the White House in November,” Ms. Clinton said.

Well I didn't actually see it

It was read to me by a boyscouts mom tonight as I drove her home. She said it was from Kenyan missionaries, that they were writing to let the Americans know that what they were hearing about Obama was all lies, that he was Muslim, that his (tribe) family paid a million dollars to someone who caused a huge commotion in a recent election in Kenya that sparked riots and violence, that he wanted a jihad, that he could not be trusted.

It's cool to 'see' you bettter after all this time, Toni..

:)

night

Not Better, Alice

but making it. But thanks :)

Working tomoroow so I'm off to dreamland.

eya gang!

having fun hearing Alex Jones bullhorning the bilderburglars!

http://www.infowars.com/stream.pls

I wish I really knew, Annette..

I don't think I really know anything about the government I was born into in this country...Today, a lady told me to read the last chapter of The People's History of the United States...I'm gonna go get it..

Hey SJ

I'm just sniffin' around this website I just found. Anytime I see the words "one with his instrument" I get excited. Anyone who is enthusiastic about their music, enthuses me greatly...

http://www.bobcunninghambass.com/

-"one with his instrument"-

-I get excited.-

:)

anda

!

Heh. Alice! ;-) Don't get too excited, the old ladies might get

mad.

You know, I know that laptops treat pictures differently than desktops do. I'm lying down and typing btw, and I had my laptop on my vanity a minute ago when I reached over and opened this pic

http://movie.leova.com/images/20080121021345_080121.jpg

Lying down looking at it, I thought it was a close up of a wicked looking face. But then upon sitting up, I saw the statue of liberty.

How freaky...

11

Breaking News: 11th Circuit Court Upholds Convictions of the Cuban Five

...
“It flies in the face of the truth.

The five men are not guilty of any crime,” said Gloria La Riva, the committee coordinator.

“They were saving lives by stopping terrorism.

They never had weapons.

They never posed any harm to the people of the United States.”
...

Hey SJ, any surprises yet?

Sunshine Jim on Sat, 06/07/2008 - 1:31am.

having fun hearing Alex Jones

Can you put your legs under your vanity?

I can't - I'm diching this pig this weekend actually..big drawers...but if you can't get close enough to see...(cuz you're mrs. magoo)..then it's time to get rid of it...

Album covers

I only recognized the last 2.

http://jeremycowart.com/client/255-music

The bed's too tall..

so no, I can't...but I doubt they make any taller. What I really need is a narrow long table or something. Simple.

20 years on, when i was a professional dive-guide and

boat captain on the Big Island, I had the opportunity to meet and interact with thousands of octopodes - and felt tremendous remorse over my earlier experience.

I became something of an expert with respect to the common octopus, and am convinced to this day that if they had a life-span comparable to human beings,they'd be ruling the earth.

Bush and Cheney lied to Congress and public about Iraq

Apparently an important report came out yesterday that was 'quite damning' regarding the fact that the CIA issued reports stating that Iraq posed no threat to the US, this prior to 9/11.

http://www.pubrecord.org/index.php?view=article&catid=1%3Anationworld&id...

something simple?

Annette, do you need Lindsay Graham in your bed room? Sick I tell ya.

No, it's crowded enough, but thanks.

My 10 year old girl has a friend over, and they apparently told my 9 year old son they were going to haze him tonight. So guess who's camping out in my room? Fun fun...

Stephen Colbert roasts GWB 2006

Have you seen this? He's great!

http://pinguy.infogami.com/blog/krr4

Your son needs a lesson in being a man then Annette

arm him with a water gun filled with apple cider vinegar. Put a kerchief around his head Ninja Turtle style and have him walk around in his boxers and gun slings. Do you really want to coddle the warrior in him?

Hello All

Sorry I missed David. Sounds like he was off doing fun stuff!

Brilliant, Fernando. Do they

Brilliant, Fernando. Do they still make super soakers?

He's my baby, 'nando - besides

don't wanna get the furniture/carpet wet!

Awww... :)

-So guess who's camping out in my room? Fun fun...-

That's cute...once I swore something was on my floor next to my bed that was going to kill me..and when I FINALLY got the nerve to look over the edge it was my little brother sleeping down there...He said the next day he got scared at the storm...I honestly don't know how I could handle the mothering you ladies have done in your lives...

I'm tired...goodnight, All... xoxo

Yeah Cathy

don't you also keep a fresh one. New models arrive every year. I may be a firearm opponent but I'm hell on wheels with those babies.

Re: Colbert roast 2006

That was classic! I think my favorite part is the stunned silence and polite nervous laughter. He grilled the bush and the media harshly, deservedly, and they knew it.

Annette on Sat, 06/07/2008 - 2:10am.

use white vinegar then. It's a natural cleanser, kills mildew, and tastes great on chicken. No harm, no fowl. Smells for just a little while.

OMG

You can always count on Hasbro to supply all your sister-soaking needs.

White vinegar!

That's a great idea! I think i'll use that idea with my girls... probably drive the labs crazy as well.

I like the simple ones with a punch

TOUGH WATER FIGHTS CALL FOR A TOUGH BLASTER Grab this awesome blaster and bring your competitors to their knees. Armed with high-powered, pressurized technology for powerful blasting and an advanced hydrodynamic design for huge water capacity, the MAX INFUSION DEFENDER blaster will unleash a total water explosion!

Gosh do girls just hate the smell of vinegar.
safe if eye wear is used

Cathy...

I understand now how you were discussing and not accusing..so I apologize if it came off martyr-ish that you might dislike me for my opinions...Sweeet dreams, and hope all is well with you... :) xo

Here's a link from Missy A...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CpaGlFoqmg
Bopping kittens....

Goodnight, Missy Alice...

All is well...

and sweet dreams

back atcha

If you find yourself awake after your daughter & friend fall

asleep you might want to wake up your son to go play a prank on them...? In the boy scouts, anyone who fell asleep first was always asking for trouble. I'm sure you can think of *something* to do there...

Something..

involving a bowl of warm water and a video camera...

Cathy, that's a bad idea

and a whole lot harder to clean up than just vinegar.

After a few sharpie installed phallic glyphs, people stopped passing out on the sofa at my house. :)

I probably should have warned you..

I'm just plain evil.

wet sheet flop

soak a sheet in the shower,

wring it out and put it in the freezer for 20 minutes.

catch them like butterflies between the two of you!

be careful so nobody gets hurt!

I often packed shaving cream for those nights

My favorite prank was to fill the victim's hand with it, then tickle his chest (sleeper scratches and rubs it around), the eventually the nose... I was pranked well at band camp one year with fingernail polish. I didn't even notice until i lifted my tuba for morning practice, when... what's that pearly sheen?!

Having the video camera should make it 1000% better.

We never managed to get the warm water to work, but did we ever keep trying. ;-)

Bill Moyers

'E&P' Editor on Bill Moyers' Show on Friday -- With McClatchy's Walcott and Landay
http://preview.tinyurl.com/5l6dvo
By E&P Staff
Published: June 05, 2008 4:10 PM ET updated

NEW YORK E&P Editor Greg Mitchell appears with McClatchy's Washington editor John Walcott and its investigative reporter Jonathan Landay on "Bill Moyers Journal" on PBS stations this Friday night.
[...]
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Video available and
Much more at link
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/06062008/transcript.html
[...]
BILL MOYERS:So what does, what do your sources tell you about this possibility of a military strike against Iran?

JOHN WALCOTT: Well, there certainly is a — I — there is a faction that is advocating it that, that believes that if this Administration does not take care of the Iranian problem before it leaves office, its successor, particularly if it's a President Obama, is unlikely to do so. So it's something we have to do before we leave; otherwise, we will never be safe. Israel will never be safe. And there are factions in Israel which feel exactly the same way.

And we've heard some noise just this week when Prime Minister Olmert has been in Washington, to the same effect, that this is a grave existential threat and has to be dealt with. So that issue's gonna be on the table until January 20th because one of the things we've learned is these people don't go away. They're still out there. They're still advocating.
[...]
JOHN WALCOTT: Not always equal and not all was exactly opposite and not all was immediate. But one of the things the Iranians can do very quickly is simply sink one oil tanker in the Persian Gulf or the Strait of Hormuz, just one, and the insurance rates will take care of the rest. And you'll have $200, $250 a barrel oil. So that's one thing to think about.
[...]
BILL MOYERS:
...The President told the Israelis that he can't control what the intelligence community says, but that the NIE's conclusions don't reflect his own views, that there is an ongoing threat. Now, how do we, how are we to read that in the context of what happened five years ago, six years ago?

JOHN WALCOTT: Well, I think Scott McClellan gives you some insight into that when he talks about how in — curious the President is and how when he takes a position he simply sticks to it.

BILL MOYERS:I don't care what the facts are. This is my reality.

JOHN WALCOTT: Impervious to evidence. It is a faith-based approach to foreign policy.
[...]

SJ -

Catch the children like butterflies between you... in the frozen sheet.

I am in awe.. that is truly evil.

I can't wait to try the freezing sheets this summer

How often have you used that one?

Remind me to stay on your good side!

evil genius

Caught in the middle
bound in chilling terror
laughter sets you free

Trapped, Like

Trapped, Like Butterflies
Small Children caught in cold sheets
Eyes wide in terror

Advising "Joey" Lieberman

Good night all

*

all i knew is what i could see

its sunday you barstids

Cruisin'

Monday, In front of the National Press Corps


Seth Cheney defended his use of the word "so" when asked about the war not being popular. He said that a President must be willing to make the tough controversial calls. He emphasized that if a President just wants to be popular on the polls then they are in the wrong business. He stressed that killing innocent people and sacrificing our military strength, our young men and women, and our treasures was worth it.

Maybe to him since he still has millions in Halliburton options, but it isn't to me.

Let's take his words and teach him a fucking lesson. Torturing old wind bag VP's isn't popular but it may certainly be necessary so idiots like him recognize their dangerous rhetoric will no longer be tolerated.

I know this is controversial and I'm not trying to win polls. SO!

Evil fucking pigs deserve no better. Someone should have to pay in some way...

i just invented it

cool eh?

Negotiators drafting a Middle East Peace agreement

Palestinians would like to incorporate all of the West Bank into a future state, but their moderate president, Mahmoud Abbas, has acknowledged that Israel, with U.S. backing, likely will hold on to blocs where tens of thousands of settlers live. In exchange, Abbas is prepared to relinquish some West Bank land for an equal amount of Israeli land.

'Land swap offer'
Qureia would not say how much territory Israel offered, where it is located or how much West Bank land the Jewish state proposed to keep under a final peace accord with the Palestinians.

"The Israelis presented a land swap offer, but this offer is unacceptable to us," he said.

Other Palestinian officials have said Israel has presented maps giving it 10 percent of the West Bank in exchange for southern Israeli territory near the Gaza Strip.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25015056

This could be a real breakthrough. It is in spirit with UN 242, although that document said "only minor border adjustments? from pre-June '67 borders would be acceptable. A related issue is water resources. Israel uses a huge amount of the West Bank water, without compensation to the Palestinians. Will the 10 percent settlement bloc in the West Bank be an obstacle to a just settlement?*TLL*

Hoover and Bush

An examination of President Bush and Herbert Hoover, the president who helped steer the economy into the Great Depression, shows interesting similarities.

It may seem premature to compare President George W. Bush to Herbert Hoover, the president who helped steer the economy into the Great Depression in 1929, and then presided over steady economic deterioration until the end of his term in 1933. After all, the current economic downturn under President Bush's watch hasn't even officially been declared a recession, while under Hoover the United States experienced four straight years of severe economic decline.

Yet close inspection of the economic track records and ideology of these two presidents reveals that they are quite similar. Both presided over a suddenly deteriorating economy yet resisted taking action to prevent further economic losses. Both believed the market would naturally self-correct, and that government intervention would be harmful. And both took limited government action once it became clear that it was needed - to help businesses, rather than working families - to weather the storm.

There are certainly areas, of course, where the comparison does not fit. And any comparison will inevitably reveal that in some cases President Bush's record is much better and in others that Hoover's legacy is tarnished by such comparisons. We'll explore some of those policy differences and similarities, but first a straight-up comparison of broad economic trends under the two presidents is in order.

http://www.truthout.org/article/a-tale-two-conservatives-comparing-bush-...

Herbert Bush

I was thinking of Hoover in relation to Bush's recent recession statement. I remember reading Hoover's Depression mantra: "Prosperity is just around the corner" so we don't meddle with the markets. At least Bush sent everyone $600.
*TLL*

STAGFLATION

What a bullshit term: stagflation.

It's as if economist are so scared of the effects of the truth that they have to invent words like this. So scared to say the new taboo word: inflation.

Our national economists like to index inflation, siting numbers that take out food and oil. Because they are so "volitile." But those are the two things almost no American can survive a day without! Those two factors should be the most "counted".

G'Morning All

What's up ? :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Fernando..

Where are the Perdenales Falls located in Texas ?

Look very cool.... :)

Thanks..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Pedernales?

Rosalyn

Pretty Things:

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you fools got fooled again

Obama. The man who is supposed to be an UNTOUCHABLE when it comes to special interest.

So the minute he's nominated, he goes and kisses the ass of the WORST special interest group of them all. AIPAC.

AIPAC just in the past few years has managed to control the media to a point that we got IRAQ (you stupid fucking mindless assholes). There most recent high points was to cover-up the war crimes Israel did in Lebanon and other areas of the world. Just like the USA's use of illegal weapons in Iraq.

And the constant cover-ups of the violations of many UN resolutions by Israel.

Or the cover-up of the many horrible truths about the FUCKING ILLEGAL occupation that Israel has of other peoples lands.

Sounds like Israel and the USA have a kindred spirit in the way the Americans treated the Indians that used to live here.

Anyways, you people are a joke. Nothing will happen from your way of doing things. Evil people doing evil things are running the information trough. The truth never reaches the mass public. Your just window dressing for the evil powers that be so they can say to you "suckers" that you have an open society. It also keeps you from marching to Washington, DC. and dragging their murderous asses out of their buildings and hanging them from the pretty Cherry Blossom trees with their own $300 ties. IT IS THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL EVER HAVE FREEDOM AGAIN IN THIS COUNTRY. THE GUTLESS MEDIA ARE NOTHING BUT WHORES AND WILL NEVER CHANGE FOR RIGHTEOUS REASONS. They are worth less than nothing and should be charged with war crimes also for helping the spread of the lies the USA uses to justify it's war crimes.

Basically, you can't teach the brain dead caffeinated scum that is the population of the horrid country. You just herd them into a confined area and when they start to hurt innocent people of other countries, you fucking "cluster bomb" them with phosphorous munitions. (damn, i can still look at this twilight zone episode which is this country at this time and still make myself laugh)

Thanks Fernando.. :)

West of Austin..

I should have guessed Hill Country..

Glad to see they don't have the endangered "Oh No"Bird there.. ;-)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Stagflation...

Doesn't stagflation have something to do with the inability of government intervention to stem inflation. Things are out of control. Stagflation did Carter in, and allowed that nazi jackass Reagan to usher in his New Deal killing agenda. (Although he got a lot of help from the Democrats.) Are they using the term stagflation in relation to the rapid rising price of oil? Think of how the media would be reacting if a democrat were president now.

*TLL*

TLL - Yes

You are correct. Monetary policy is impotent at that point. The only way out is innovation. Retard boy could care less. We need to press the fact that he can not go unpunished.

Stagflation

"When combined, the presence of both these factors is more than sufficient to launch an era of stagflation. For example, policies which promote growth in the money supply to allow consumers to afford higher priced oil contribute as a cause for runaway inflation, even if implemented to fight stagnation..."

Stagflation is a period of inflation combined with stagnation (that is, slow economic growth and rising unemployment), generally including recession. The portmanteau term "stagflation" is generally attributed to British Conservative MP and later Chancellor of the Exchequer Iain Macleod, who coined the term in a speech to Parliament in 1965. Economists have identified the two principal contributing causes of stagflation. First, stagflation can result when an economy is slowed by an unfavorable supply shock, such as an increase in the price of oil in an oil importing country, which tends to raise prices at the same time that it slows the economy by making production less profitable.[5] Second, both stagnation (recession) and inflation can result from inappropriate macroeconomic policies. For example, central banks can cause inflation by permitting excessive growth of the money supply, and the government can cause stagnation by excessive regulation of goods markets and labor markets. When combined, the presence of both these factors is more than sufficient to launch an era of stagflation. For example, policies which promote growth in the money supply to allow consumers to afford higher priced oil contribute as a cause for runaway inflation, even if implemented to fight stagnation. The global stagflation of the 1970s is often blamed on both causes: it was largely started by a huge rise in oil prices, but then continued as central banks used excessively stimulative monetary policy to try to avoid the resulting recession (stagnation), causing a runaway wage-price spiral.
(wikipedia)

It's a lot prettier

than those pictures show MMR. The whole region is a jewel.

The view from France on

The view from France on Obama and the election
Chris in Paris · 6/07/2008 04:20:00 AM ET · Link
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This year the Democrats Abroad did a really great job of organizing the vote for American expats. Overwhelmingly, Americans abroad supported Obama in the campaign with roughly 66% of the vote. After the Bush years, Americans abroad see first hand the impact of a president who thumbs his nose at the world and ravages an economy. The global good will of the Clinton years was all suddenly gone. I have met people in Northern and Southern Africa, Asia (including Vietnam, our former "enemy"), Europe and Central America who would start telling me about how much they loved Bill Clinton and how much times have changed under Bush. The ideal of America as a leader and a model had evolved into America the hated and America the war monger. Yes, it's clear there will always be haters, but the number of haters is beyond anything I experienced in the past.

Perhaps this is why Hillary was not as popular with Americans overseas. While people loved Bill, it is a different time and after years of negativity, people abroad were looking for something different. Americans abroad wanted someone that was a clear break from the slash and burn politics of recent years. Hillary seemed too associated with the old way of doing things. They wanted someone who could be a uniter in practice, not just in words. Obama seemed to capture this spirit for many of expats and obviously for many Americans at home as well.

So how about people here in France? Obama is quite the topic of discussion both in the media and at cafes with the French. In general people love discussing Obama and what this could mean for the future of America. However, I am still looking for a single French person that gives Obama a chance in the election against McCain. Everyone, right, left, center, men, women, you name it, they all think McCain is going to win. Is this because of 2000 and then 2004? Is this because they believe that America is a racist country? Is this because the French are racists and can't imagine such a thing in 2008? Is this because the French are negative and jealous? Hard to say, maybe a bit of all of the above, but it is somewhat surprising that there is such a strong belief here that the US will not vote Obama. I don't even want to think about how a third Bush term would received overseas but I have a pretty good idea.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/06/view-from-france-on-obama-and-electio...

Bushco Beware!

I hope they get these bastards for stealing the 2000 election. Oh wait, the Supreme Court ruled in their favor on that. Shall we impeach those bastards?
Don Siegalman's case will play large in bringing Bush down, I anticipate.
And the illegal invasion of Iraq. Pinochet the killers.

The thing I worry about is how are we going to end this cycle? How are we going to stop the next rightwing populist from coming in and further the destruction of civil society through privatization, and weakening of public input?

anybody know what time the Hillary event is this am?

covered on msnbc

my kids are starting

to move out today...I am adjusting to the change and looking forward to alot more space and cleanliness...

Fed officials voice concerns

Fed officials voice concerns over bailout and future risk
Chris in Paris · 6/06/2008 08:30:00 PM ET · Link
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It's good to see Federal Reserve officials voicing their opinions, unlike Congress who hardly says anything about this radical change for the worse. By bailing out Wall Street the Fed is only encouraging more gambling and more risky behavior. For the millionth time, where are the sacrifices by Wall Street? How are they really changing their behavior? We deserve answers and so far Wall Street isn't saying anything and Congress isn't asking.
The comments by Richmond Fed President Jeffrey M. Lacker reflect a concern among people within the central bank and close to it that the emergency actions taken over a single weekend in March may have fundamentally recast the role of the institution -- but without the lengthy, deliberative process that normally would precede such a move.

"The danger is that the effect of recent credit extension on the incentives of financial market participants might induce greater risk taking," Lacker told the European Economics and Financial Centre in London, "which in turn could give rise to more frequent crises, in which case it might be difficult to resist further expanding the scope of central bank lending."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/05/AR200806...

TLL

I have been beating the hell out of the stagflation drum with my family as we have at least some common investment interests. I now believe the stagflation threat is not real. It would be real if I believed McCain becomes President.

I think Obama's policies are stagflation proof. He has publicly indicated policies that support research investments, education initiatives, technology (green energy) innovation, and infrastructures works programs. That's a new deal befitting this new millennium. New energy alternatives will remove the economic friction of the current dilemmas. Did you lose your hope and change button?

Breaking: Casino Drive is out for today's race. Thank goodness they won't put greed over chance this time!

Bush/McCain economics

Bush/McCain economics continue to hit housing
Chris in Paris · 6/06/2008 06:57:00 PM ET · Link
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There are now 1,100,000 homes in foreclosure in the US. Even as a percentage of the overall number of home loans the number is going up. No matter what McCain's economic brain Phil Gramm tries to say for his big bank clients, these are terrible numbers that are directly tied to the banks that gambled with the futures of middle class Americans. Digging out of this hole won't be fast or easy but it will take even longer if we continue rewarding shameful, if not criminal, behavior of the banking industry. Who really believes McCain and Gramm would do anything but what the banks want?

http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/05/news/economy/foreclosure/index.htm?cnn=y...

Will McCain ask Phil Gramm

Will McCain ask Phil Gramm about UBS offshore investigation?
Chris in Paris · 6/06/2008 04:17:00 PM ET · Link
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How is Gramm still involved in McCain's campaign? How many more scandals is McCain going to ignore before he pulls the plug on this guy? Not so surprisingly, the so-called liberal media somehow failed to mention that Phil Gramm is McCain's campaign co-chair and rumored choice for Treasury secretary when they wrote the story about the latest problems at UBS.

So much for McCain's big talk about change. It's business as usual, including yet another banking scandal right under his nose.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/06/8627_mccain_adviser...

Hillary at noon eastern

I'm hoping it's not a faux concession.

This Day in Hell

http://thisishell.com/

This is Hell broadcasts live this Saturday beginning at 9 AM (US central). You can also hear us live online via WNUR's web site (http://www.wnur.org) under the heading, "Listen Online."

This weekend, our guests include:

* Martin Beck Matustik author of "Radical Evil and the Scarcity of Hope: Postsecular Meditations" (Indiana University Press). Martin is Professor of Philosophy at Purdue University.

* Ha-Joon Chang is an economist specializing in development economics. Ha-Joon Reader in the Political Economy of Development at Cambridge University. Ha-Joon is the author of several books including last year's "Bad Samaritans: Rich Nations, Poor Policies and the Threat to the Developing World" (Bloomsbury) and 2002's "Kicking Away the Ladder: Development Strategy in Historical Perspective (Anthem Press).

* James Howard Kunstler's most recent book is "World Made By Hand: A Novel of the Post-Oil Future." Jim also writes The Daily Grunt, if he has something to say that day, and offers the Eyesore of the Month which always features a horrific piece of architecture, both at his web site, http://www.kunstler.com.

* David Cay Johnston was an investigative journalist for The New York Times now focusing on the subject of taxation and since then has been an independent reporter. His most recent book is last year's "Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense and Stick You With The Bill."

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket Free Democracy

WNUR

I wonder if it is as cool as WFMU?
*TLL*

The whole region is a jewel

Yeah..I need to get my ass over there one of these days..

I've heard nothing but good thing about that area..

Some friends of ours who use to live here,live in the Hill Country now..With goats,cows etc..

It's gotten soooo expensive there though..A drag..

But,need to find some camping sites there one day..And,check it out..Just not during the summer..

Again,thanks for the info.. :)

When I win the Lotto(Yeah right !)
I'll buy a pad there where everyone can hang out..

Kauai too ! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

With Casino Drive out..

a $10 bet on Denis Of Cork win's $100 should the second most favored horse deny the triple crown.

Looks like Indiana - Chicago

is about to have a hellish weekend.

Time to mow here...

From C&L

Not All Employment Numbers Are Bad: Gonzo Gets A Job
By: Logan Murphy @ 6:45 AM - PDT

Bloomberg:

June 6 (Bloomberg) — Former U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, who was forced from his job amid a controversy over the firings of federal prosecutors, has been hired to provide assistance to a special master on a patent case.

Gonzales will help former U.S. District Judge Layn R. Phillips oversee settlement talks in the case of a Texas company which claims banks such as Wells Fargo & Co., Citigroup Inc.’s Citibank and Bank of America Corp. are violating its patents for taking and transmitting digital images of checks.

The judge overseeing the case, U.S. District Judge David Folsom in Marshall, Texas, “has no objection to Mr. Gonzales’s assistance in this case, and believes he can provide valuable assistance to the Special Master,” Phillips wrote in the order. Read on…

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=abnQSa5RHZsQ

Times are tough, with the recession, mortgage foreclosure crisis and rising unemployment, but it appears former Attorney General, Alberto Gonzales has finally landed on his feet. Well, if you’re trying to find evidence of illegal activity, why not hire someone who has experience in breaking the law? Right? More from TPM…

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/gonzales_gets_a_job.ph...

OBAMA WAS SELECTED, NOT ELECTED

Words mean nothing to liberals. They say whatever will help advance their cause at the moment, switch talking points in a heartbeat, and then act indignant if anyone uses the exact same argument they were using five minutes ago.

When Gore won the popular vote in the 2000 election by half a percentage point, but lost the Electoral College -- or, for short, "the constitutionally prescribed method for choosing presidents" -- anyone who denied the sacred importance of the popular vote was either an idiot or a dangerous partisan.

But now Hillary has won the popular vote in a Democratic primary, while Obambi has won under the rules. In a spectacular turnabout, media commentators are heaping sarcasm on our plucky Hillary for imagining the "popular vote" has any relevance whatsoever.

It's the exact same situation as in 2000, with Hillary in the position of Gore and Obama in the position of Bush. The only difference is: Hillary has a much stronger argument than Gore ever did (and Hillary's more of a man than Gore ever was).

Unbeknownst to liberals, who seem to imagine the Constitution is a treatise on gay marriage, our Constitution sets forth rules for the election of a president. Under the Constitution that has led to the greatest individual liberty, prosperity and security ever known to mankind, Americans have no constitutional right to vote for president, at all. (Don't fret Democrats: According to five liberals on the Supreme Court, you do have a right to sodomy and abortion!)

Americans certainly have no right to demand that their vote prevail over the electors' vote.

The Constitution states that electors from each state are to choose the president, and it is up to state legislatures to determine how those electors are selected. It is only by happenstance that most states use a popular vote to choose their electors.

When you vote for president this fall, you will not be voting for Barack Obama or John McCain; you will be voting for an elector who pledges to cast his vote for Obama or McCain. (For those new Obama voters who may be reading, it's like voting for Paula, Randy or Simon to represent you, instead of texting your vote directly.)

Any state could abolish general elections for president tomorrow and have the legislature pick the electors. States could also abolish their winner-take-all method of choosing presidential electors -- as Nebraska and Maine have already done, allowing their electors to be allocated in proportion to the popular vote. And of course there's always the option of voting electors off the island one by one.

If presidential elections were popular vote contests, Bush might have spent more than five minutes campaigning in big liberal states like California and New York. But under a winner-take-all regime, close doesn't count. If a Republican doesn't have a chance to actually win a state, he may as well lose in a landslide. Using the same logic, Gore didn't spend a lot of time campaigning in Texas (and Walter Mondale campaigned exclusively in Minnesota).

Consequently, under both the law and common sense, the famed "popular vote" is utterly irrelevant to presidential elections. It would be like the winner of "Miss Congeniality" claiming that title also made her "Miss America." Obviously, Bush might well have won the popular vote, but he would have used a completely different campaign strategy.

By contrast, there are no constitutional rules to follow with party primaries. Primaries are specifically designed by the parties to choose their strongest candidate for the general election.

Hillary's argument that she won the popular vote is manifestly relevant to that determination. Our brave Hillary has every right to take her delegates to the Democratic National Convention and put her case to a vote. She is much closer to B. Hussein Obama than the sainted Teddy Kennedy was to Carter in 1980 when Teddy staged an obviously hopeless rules challenge at the convention. (I mean rules about choosing the candidate, not rules about crushed ice at after-parties.)

And yet every time Hillary breathes a word about her victory in the popular vote, TV hosts respond with sneering contempt at her gaucherie for even mentioning it. (Of course, if popularity mattered, networks like MSNBC wouldn't exist. That's a station that depends entirely on "superviewers.")

After nearly eight years of having to listen to liberals crow that Bush was "selected, not elected," this is a shocking about-face. Apparently unaware of the new party line that the popular vote amounts to nothing more than warm spit, just last week HBO ran its movie "Recount," about the 2000 Florida election, the premise of which is that sneaky Republicans stole the presidency from popular vote champion Al Gore. (Despite massive publicity, the movie bombed, with only about 1 million viewers, so now HBO is demanding a "recount.")

So where is Kevin Spacey from HBO's "Recount," to defend Hillary, shouting: "WHO WON THIS PRIMARY?"

In the Democrats' "1984" world, the popular vote is an unconcept, doubleplusungood verging crimethink. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

http://www.anncoulter.com/

Thanks for the

Andy Kaufman rant, CM.
*TLL*

Obama edict requires DNC to

Obama edict requires DNC to return $100,000
Posted: 09:46 AM ET

Sen. Obama changed the DNC's fund-raising rules after besting Sen. Hillary Clinton in a long primary battle.
WASHINGTON (AP) – The Democratic National Committee is now operating under Barack Obama's fundraising rules.

The DNC today returned about $100,000 in money from lobbyists and political action committees.

A party official says the donations were already "in the pipeline" when Obama, the presumed Democratic presidential nominee, instituted the standards for the committee.

Obama imposed the rules to avoid a conflict with his own ban on money from federal lobbyists and PACs.

Republican John McCain does accept money from lobbyists and PACs as does the Republican National Committee and other party committees.

Obama's ban does not apply to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee nor to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/07/obama-edict-requires-dnc...

Celtic

Ann Coulter is clinically irrelevant, didn't she retire?

Ann Coulter is clinically irrelevant, didn't she retire?

no she is still kicking your sorry asses with what hurts liberals the most "The Truth"

hypocrites one and all of ya

Oopps, I forgot!

Never engage a troll

The issue

of Recount wasn't so much that Gore won the popular vote. It was how Bush stole Florida.
*TLL*

postwar devotion to the internal combustion engine

It was all in the plans.

http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/199705/gates.asp
12 Gates to the City
Francesca Lyman

[...]
The fate of America's cities over the past 50 years has been one of gradual abandonment. What may be the biggest mass migration in the nation's history--the move to the suburbs--was set in motion by a series of federal and state policies at the end of World War II, including GI-Bill subsidies to suburban home-buyers and massive road-building projects, and furthered by speculative real estate development and savings-and-loan chicanery. That wave continues to sweep over us with the building of thousands of suburban and regional shopping malls and industrial parks, all of which continue to pull investments and consumer dollars away from cities, while destroying farmland and wildlife habitat.

The motor for this migration was the postwar devotion to the internal combustion engine, which led to the now ubiquitous suburban miasma of malls, drive-in franchises, and subdivisions with prominent driveways to garages almost as large as the houses themselves. Residential areas are far distant from commercial buildings, making them almost impossible to reach without an automobile. The iconic all-American Main Street, with its public space of shops and markets and offices, is fractured in favor of monolithic discount houses in yesterday's pastures and woodlots.

Older, pre-automobile cities were inherently far more ecological, in more ways than are obvious. Compact and dense, they allowed for greater efficiency, better use of space, and more diverse housing types and income levels. And because most major American cities were sited in fertile agricultural areas, there was--and often still is--great potential for feeding them locally. (See "Food for Thought".)

Cities are not necessarily bad for nature-unless they're designed to ignore nature. "In many ways the environmental crisis is a design crisis," writes Sim Van der Ryn in Ecological Design (Island Press, 1995), "a consequence of how things are made, buildings are constructed, and landscapes are used." Design decisions have become so severed from their ecological consequences, he says, that during the past 50 years "we have reduced a complex and diverse landscape into an asphalt network stitched together from coast to coast out of a dozen or so crude design 'templates' "-the strip malls, regional malls, industrial parks, trailer parks, and mass-produced single-family homes that are now so familiar. "Dumb design" is what Van der Ryn calls these standardized solutions mindlessly replicated everywhere, because they require extravagant energy use, auto dependence, and total disregard for the particulars of place.
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http://preview.tinyurl.com/5k4w43
"Sticking a straw in the Great Lakes is not a solution to Phoenix's water problems."
Robert Shibley, State University of New York at Buffalo.
Concerns raised as the U. S. Southwest grapples with historic drought, water supply depletion and the creeping sense that things can only get worse

Jul 22, 2007 04:30 AM
Murray Whyte
Staff Reporter
The state of Arizona has more than 300 golf courses, a booming economy, endless sunshine and, at last count, at least five Saks Fifth Avenue department stores — in short, nearly everything the well-heeled sybarite would need.

There’s just one thing missing: rain.

For the past month, not a drop has fallen in Maricopa County, home to greater Phoenix, the state’s economic engine and fastest-growing hub. Over that period, temperatures have hovered five to seven degrees above the 30-year average, at one point holding steady at over 43C for 10 straight days, while hundreds of brush fires burned statewide.
"And they're still building billion-dollar houses, right in the middle of the desert," says Paul Oyashi, incredulous. "It doesn't seem rational, does it?"
In a word, no. Rational, some would say, would be a mass migration from the drought-ravaged American southwest, where Southern California just experienced its driest 12-month period in recorded history, to more verdant climes.
One such place? Cleveland, the battered hub of Cuyahoga County, where Oyashi sits as director of the department of development. "We don't have earthquakes, we don't have brush fires, we've got all the fresh water you could ever want," Oyashi says. "That's logic. But the problem is, it flies in the face of reality."
LOGIC HAS NEVER been the lone – or even dominant – factor in human behaviour. And in Cleveland, much like all the depressed cities of the Great Lakes rust belt, the reality is this: over the past four decades, the population has bled away to less than half, as it has in Buffalo and Detroit.
[...]
In 1922, seven states – many of them, like Nevada, Arizona, Texas and California, desperately arid – signed the Colorado River Compact, which divvied up the mighty waterway's seemingly abundant flow.
But recent observation of the river is alarming. Only two per cent of the river's water makes it beyond the U.S. border, where large Mexican cities dependent on its bounty are left with a trickle – much less than they need. With climate change, river flow has been dwindling, due, among other things, to decreasing snowfall and less consequent spring runoff, which forms a significant part of the Colorado River basin's lifeblood.
The river is the main water source for more than 30 million people stretching from Colorado in the north all the way down to the U.S.-Mexico border. By the end of the century, inflow to the river (which includes runoff and tributaries) is expected to drop by as much as 40 per cent.
At the same time, climate change projections show temperatures in the most parched regions of the Southwest increasing between five and seven degrees. That would make Phoenix's hottest days well over 54C. (54C x9 /5 +32 = 129.2F)
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If you hurry, I'll save you a place.

For my favorite troll

Ann Coulter's Felony Voter Fraud Crimes: The Complete Story

While the conspiracy theorists at Fox "News" ramp up their "special investigation" into the exceedingly rare crime of voter fraud, misleading their viewers before the upcoming election with breathless reports of "illegal immigrants" and "people who are not even citizens voting for whomever they want" in order to "sway an election", I thought it might be useful to publish the complete cover-story, detailing Ann Coulter's no-uncertain-terms felony voter fraud, as it was published in the recent exposé I wrote for Hustler magazine.

Up until now, the story --- along with complete documentation, such as the voter registration form on which she purposely lied, and the evidence proving she knowingly voted in the wrong location --- has been told piece-meal in smaller stories as the scandal unfolded over the last two years (all indexed in full here.)

But, with Fox "News" requesting tips via their special VoterFraud@foxnews.com address, I thought it might be nice to help them out by publishing, for the first time online, the entire story of Coulter's purposeful voter fraud: What she did, how she publicly used Fox and other media to lie about it, and how she's gotten away with her several felonies and at least one misdemeanor...so far.

Hopefully the crime fighters at Fox will help enforce the rule of law, and bring this documented fugitive to justice once and for all! Especially since, as you'll see in the following story, she used their own airwaves to lie to Alan Colmes and others. Please do your civic duty and let them know!

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6046

Mow time is over

all my chores are done :)

41 counties out in Indiana.

CNN reporter: Bush excuse

CNN reporter: Bush excuse for unemployment rate 'ridiculous'
David Edwards

During an economic speech today, President Bush partly blamed a dramatic rise in unemployment on new workers entering the workforce. Later, in a CNN interview, Bush Labor Secretary Elaine Chao also said that the increase the unemployment rate was "caused in part by a surge of young entrants into the job market."

CNN senior business correspondent Ali Velshi weighed in that Bush administration excuses for the poor economy were "ridiculous." Velshi explained, "I just wish they wouldn't say that. President Bush said something earlier about how the unemployment rate today -- the increase -- was because a whole bunch of teenagers have joined the workforce, that's the point. 100,000 people join the working age working force every month. If we don't create 100,000 jobs every month, we're not doing the right thing."

This video is from CNN's Newsroom, broadcast June 6, 2008.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/CNN_reporter_Bush_excuse_for_unemployment_...

Lots O Water


more HERE.

McCain and Keating Five still hot

Obama maintained last month that any one's past who's run for the Presidency is open to review. McCain was the only Rep. of the Keating
Five, the other four where Dems. but none of them are running to be president. Charles Keating was convicted of racketeering and fraud in both state and federal court after his Lincoln Savings & Loan collapsed, costing the taxpayers $3.4 billion. Though he was not convicted of anything, McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,00 in contributions. In the mid-1980s, McCain made at least 9 trips on Keating's airplanes, and 3 of those were to Keating's luxurious retreat in the Bahamas. McCain's wife and father-in-law also were the largest investors (at $350,000) in a Keating shopping center; the Phoenix New Times called it a "sweetheart deal." So when the media brings up Obama's connection to Resko, McCains scandals needs to be brought home. Yesterday on Hartman I heard for the 1st time that McCain is getting full military disability at $58,000.00 a year!!! But he won't support vets. in Congress!

Bilderberg meeting attracts

Bilderberg meeting attracts prominent politicians, businessmen
Andrew McLemore

The 56th Bilderberg Meeting, an annual conference of influential politicians and businessmen, began Thursday in Chantilly, Virgina, according to a press release from the organization.

The Conference will end Sunday and deals mainly with a nuclear free world, cyber terrorism, Africa, Russia, finance, protectionism, US-EU relations, Afghanistan and Pakistan, Islam and Iran.

According to the press release, the meeting is private in order to encourage frank and open discussion.

About 140 participants will attend, of whom about two-thirds come from Europe and the balance from North America. About one-third is from government and politics, and two-thirds are from finance, industry, labor, education and communications.

An official list of the attendees can be found at Alex Jones' Infowars.

Although it is an international forum, many prominent American officials and politicians attend the conference, including Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Ben Bernanke and Paul Wolfowitz.

James Johnson, the man tasked with selecting Barack Obama's running mate, is also on the list to attend the conference.

InfoWars also reported that Senator Barack Obama’s office has refused to deny that the Democratic nominee attended Bilderberg last night following reports that he and Hillary Clinton were present at "an event in Northern Virginia."

Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs would not say where the former rivals met, except that it was not at Clinton's home in Washington, reported the Associated Press.

"Reporters traveling with Obama sensed something might be happening between the pair when they arrived at Dulles International Airport after an event in Northern Virginia and Obama was not aboard the airplane," the Associated Press reported.

Bilderberg takes its name from the hotel in Holland, pictured above, where the first meeting took place in May 1954. That meeting grew out of the concern expressed by leading citizens on both sides of the Atlantic that Western Europe and North America were not working together as closely as they should on common problems of critical importance, according to the group's press release.

The organization has sometimes drawn speculation that it forms a "shadowy global government," the BBC reported.

Coverage of the Bilberberg conference can be found at Infowars.

Excerpts from Bilderberg's press release, available in full here, follow...

More links and info here:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Bilderberg_meeting_attracts_prominent_poli...

I have lost my husband

all he wants to do now is blog....and he is even engaging trolls. OMG what is to become of our marriage

Fernando

Yeah, well, he DID just have a birthday party in which he got a brand new super soaker...

Nando

The weather here is awful. It will be in the 90s today with high humidity and Severe Thunder Storms throughout the day.

I'll be leaving for work soon for the opening of our Water Park. It's a late opening because a leak had to be fixed. Very disappointing for the kids! And they have planned all kinds of games and a celebration for the pool opening.

mhappenow on Sat, 06/07/2008 - 10:49am.

may I recommend the MAX INFUSION DEFENDER? Works on my dog too :)

sirota...

June 2, 2008 2:30 PM
What part of "worker exploitation" don't you understand?

If you're like me, you've had it up to here with the refrain of "what part of illegal don't you understand" from right-wingers trying to use the immigration debate to distract hard-working Americans from the structural reasons behind their ongoing economic woes.

Rather than running scared from this simple-minded chorus of xenophobia, it's high time progressives stood up and called a spade a spade. Allowing immigration status to be used as an excuse to exploit workers is not only morally wrong, it's bad for other workers. Standing by while hundreds of working parents are rounded up like cattle, separated from their children, and detained for days to weeks without regard for due process is not only cowardly, it's un-American.

Instead of tolerating the completely impractical solution of deporting 14 million undocumented immigrants, we need to come up with practical plans for integrating them into our society and helping them continue contributing to a national economy that they are already propping up. In the meantime, we need to make sure that the hysterical calls for cracking down on "illegal" immigrants doesn't continue to victimize the very same class of "legal" workers that the crack-down is putatively intended to protect.

Fortunately, a few enlightened state leaders in Iowa are taking some moderate but laudable steps toward achieving this agenda.

An article in Monday's Des Moines Register threw some much-deserved attention toward a new proposal to use wage enforcement as a way of cracking down on the rampant practice of worker exploitation that for too long has been the elephant in the room of the national immigration debate. The bill, sponsored by Iowa Senate Majority leader Michael Gronstal and House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, would raise penalties for violating minimum wage laws and for improperly classifying employees as independent contractors in order to avoid reporting their wages for the purposes of taxation and worker's comp payments.

These measures are particularly welcome coming from Iowa, which this May was the site of the this year's largest immigration raid in the tiny manufacturing town of Postville.

As has been well documented by now, the Agriprocessors meatpacking plant targeted in the raid had been for years the site of atrocious worker exploitation. In a recent piece on Alternet, Joshua Holland provides a shocking laundry list of the abuses:

http://action.credomobile.com/sirota/2008/06/what_part_of_worker_exploit...

no doubt t

I've been watching. That was the storm that woke me up Thursday early morning just after midnight. I've been dreading it for you because the winds were straight line for you.

It worked Nando

he is making me coffee as we speak...

uh oh now he is getting all lovey.

That Builderberg list includes...

USA Sebelius, Kathleen Governor of Kansas

That just knocked her out for consideration for VP in my mind anyway!

what?? nothing like a good work out and a good rest

good morning yourll

Michele you sound pretty happe..thought you would be sobbing about little Iris....thats a good sign i see

you should have used the Super Soaker

mhap.... Now your the one likely to get wet.

toniD - I know I've been posting that the woman is just another DLC candidate. That even knocks out Ford. Watch yourself around pretty prostitutes. They are tricky.

McCain is getting 100% disability

from Viet Nam..that 58,000 per year on top of his salary(obviously not 100% disabled) and his wifes $$... unconscionable

like a millionaire taking the social security benefit...

just like a republican

Im drying off as we speak Nando

NYT on Hastert’s new

NYT on Hastert’s new lobbying gig: ‘Old incumbents never die; they just backslap away.’
Former Republican House speaker Dennis Hastert recently joined Dickstein Shapiro, a “powerhouse Washington law and lobbying firm.” He will cash in on his time as a lawmaker and is estimated to make more than $500,000 a year. Today, the New York Times has an editorial on this troubling revolving door:

We never really expected Mr. Hastert to indulge the Jeffersonian fantasy and humbly return to his old calling as a high school wrestling coach. Still, his new job as access-enabler highlights the capital reality that old incumbents never die; they just backslap away.

More than 200 former members of Congress have crowded through the revolving door to lobby in recent years. More are lining up at the pay window. Congress’s designated ethics monitors already are bending the rules to let incumbents job shop their private-sector value while still on the privileged elected perch.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/06/nyt-on-hasterts-new-lobbying-gig-old...

Published list is proof

About 140 participants will attend, of whom about two-thirds come from Europe and the balance from North America. About one-third is from government and politics, and two-thirds are from finance, industry, labor, education and communications.
http://www.infowars.com/?p=2564
An official list of the attendees can be found at Alex Jones' Infowars.

http://law.jrank.org/pages/8357/Logan-Act.html

The Logan Act (18 U.S.C.A. § 953 [1948]) is a single federal statute making it a crime for a citizen to confer with foreign governments against the interests of the United States. Specifically, it prohibits citizens from negotiating with other nations on behalf of the United States without authorization.

John Edwards was on the Bilerberg list

Edwards took a trip to Belgium in 2004, to attend the annual meeting, was he being prepped for the V.P. slot?

All I can think of



when I see this picture is "David Petraeus meets GWB".

Rachel is in the leader roll

on Msnbc...her show has been excellent lately(2nd two hours)

pbtrue1, Published list is proof

What is this in reference to?

Tyla

passed she is so excited...and Mr. Rijeski said she would not make it..huh! wrong again

what did tyla pass

Lu?

ya mhappenow

especially as she continually throttles Pat Buchanan.

what did tyla pass

7th grade

Rachel is in the leader roll

is that on now Michele?

is that on now Michele?

yup as we speak...in certain segments

She was so pissed about that repub who was on yesterday calling us the "demoCRAT party" she said she wanted to poke her own eye out she was so riled up.

Hanuman: Simian Symbol of Strength!

That's Very funny Fernando, you never know, perhaps they'll be born in India in their next life.
http://hinduism.about.com/library/weekly/aa052801a.htm

John Edwards, member of CFR

Council of Foreign Relations speech
May 23, 2007
http://www.cfr.org/publication/13432/

poke her own eye out she was so riled up

hahaha (oops sorry, dont know if i am allowed to do that around here anymore without being called a mole)but than again i called you the CIA so what is new...maybe i should lay back down a watch it...have not made up my mind yet

Potato Head just said Gore can be VP

again. I've read Article II many times. The VP terms are entangled with the President. Can he possibly right? Please tell me so, please, please, please! Gore would make a great President of the Senate.

AND I want Michele reforming health care. She has tons more experience in the field over Hillary.

UPDATE: Article II amended by the 22nd amendment limits only the President.

VP...okay who's left?

Sebelius went to Bilderberg last year too. I was hoping it was curiosity, ala Edwards.

She is done in my eyes too ToniD.

Man, I am seriously starting to consider the "3rd party" argument this year. I've been a Dem my whole life. I am just so sick of this shit.

Anyone aware of General Odom's autopsy report?

It's been a week, it was probably a heart attack, but somebody as outspoken against the Bush/Neocon agenda its always a little suspicious
when they suddenly die. For the record Odom said alot,
"The president's policy is based on illusions, not realities," he wrote. "There never has been any right way to invade and transform Iraq."

"The challenge we face today is not how to win in Iraq, it is how to recover from a strategic mistake: invading Iraq in the first place."

Gen. Odom became a fixture on news programs and never altered his critical stance toward the Bush administration's policies in Iraq and Iran.
Last week he and Brzezinski wrote an op-ed article for The Post in which they stated that the White House's "heavy-handed" approach toward Iran would backfire and "almost certainly result in an Iran with nuclear weapons."
So where's the autopsy report? Is that public information?

"3rd party"

anarchist!!

Sunshine and Secrecy

Just Ran Across this..
Some great info..

Threat Level:

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/sunshine_and_secrecy/index.html

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Luv u 2 Lu

:)

Did anyone expect anything else?

The Republicans just put out a 3-page summary of all the things Hillary has said about Obama. -Laffy

mhappenow..Do you have a Link to that ?

McCain is getting 100% disability
Submitted by mhappenow on Sat, 06/07/2008 - 11:17am.
*******

Thanks.. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Fernando

Big Brown 1/3
Big Brown's cracked hoof is patched
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jnC7OQ9pE_5MaRenHVdqlx4kSySwD914OI580
21 hours ago

NEW YORK (AP) — Big Brown has had a patch applied to his cracked hoof a day before his bid for the Triple Crown.
[...]

Da' Tara sister of Dennis of Cork
Dennis of Cork odds set at 10 to 1
Longshot Da' Tara 25 to 1
Da' Tara
Put $10 on for me Nando

Have to get ready for work

Later Sederites. Have a great day!

What would a

Brown/Cork Da'Tara Tri-fecta yield? I haven't seen the books.

I think Hillary is having her speech redacted for public consumption.

and oh! did i mention this (no lie no lie) my mother is virgo

she too till this day cannot read you...hahahaha

Fernando

When I was researching the Saudi purchase of horses in Lexington, and the illegal flights home on 9/13/2001 and 9/16/2001, I ran across the list of Belmont horses and owners. Da'Tara stuck out to me. Call it a hunch. Casino Drive is the second favorite.
I have a feeling Big Brown will not finish with a cracked hoof.
He's already been sold for stud.
Done deal.

msnbc has a live feed from clintons speech

i believe they are still waiting for her to show up

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22887392#22887392

mm link

mm link

i have mixed feelings about mccain receiving a pension like that when there are elderly indivuals starving to death.

i think it gets compounded when he's given a free pass to claim status as a war hero as part of his campaign without questioning all the things he did during the viet nam war. you know, things like crashing four maybe five planes, or almost destroying our own aircraft carrier by screwing around on the flight line. little things like that. little things that get excused when your old man is an admiral.

pbtrue1 on Sat, 06/07/2008 - 12:23pm.

that makes no sense. Why would they already sell him off before his possibly historic run? The Triple Crown hasn't been won since 1978 by Affirmed. His value should skyrocket if in fact he has a 3/1 chance of winning. Could they have sold him on speculation?

there can only be one answer

this morning i fired up itunes to have something to listen to and download malloys show. my initial page is a playlist that has the aar radio show on it. i got the dreaded please sign in to aar box and couldn't figure it out. i guess you have to provide a username and password now. so lets look at the evidence:

- the best shows get cancelled
- they bring in hacks that are boring and irrelevant
- they refuse to renew a "sleeper time slot" for one of their most talented hosts.
- and now you need to provide a username and password to just have their radio show link in a playlist.

there can only be one answer

AIR AMERICA HAS BEEN HIJACKED BY NEOCON ZOMBIES

Nando

Big Brown Stud Rights Sold for $50 Million

Michael David SmithPosted May 17th 2008 5:10PM by Michael David Smith
Filed under: Horse Racing
NBC reported on today's Preakness broadcast that Three Chimneys Farm has purchased the breeding rights to Kentucky Derby winner Big Brown for more than $50 million.

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/05/17/big-brown-stud-rights-sold-for...

that makes no sense.

actually it does. before the race, he can command a speculative premium. by selling him now, they get more than they would for just having won 2 races but less than if he is the triple crown. on the other hand, there are no guarrantees that he will win. if he does, the current buyer, can then turn around and sell him again.

I trusted you pbtrue

It just made no sense to me. Thanks for the link but your word was enough for me.

all the clintons just took the stage

(the background music they've been playing the last twenty minutes is pretty interesting)

i have mixed feelings about mccain receiving a pension like that

I know what you mean Dan. I have a cousin who I was raised with, more like a brother really, who had a cerebral aneurysm and subsequent stroke. He is disabled, with only partial use of his right arm, and cannot work. Twice a year he has to drag his ass down to Social Services and they crawl all over him to "prove" he is "still disabled". He would like to try to do SOMETHING part time, but any extra income he might be able to scrape up would cause him his benefits.

A Senator or President receiving "100% disability" is ludicrous.

ludicrous

Good definition of the entire Republican/GOP Party.

Ludicrous speed.....

They've jumped to PLAID.

Her Majesty Hillary Rotten Clinton

And I mean every word!

OMG look at the pain and lack of conviction in her eyes

this is the hardest thing this woman has ever had to do.

Admit she f-ed up.

Did you hear the boo's?

Hillary, can you heal this party, you did such a fine job of splitting it.

Look up

New Thread

Evita & Juan& Baby Girl too!

Submitted by pbtrue1 on Sat, 06/07/2008 - 12:56pm.
OMG look at the pain and lack of conviction in her eyes
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I can't watch her. It's that evil glint in her eye. I'll read the speech on-line later. What I can't stand is her treating the electorate like they are her subjects. This isn't a damn monarchy. But maybe that's our fault. Maybe we should start acting like citizens.

Okay I'm listening. She's doing her narcissistic thing.

Okay I have to turn her off.

EEP

New thread hon

it's a lesson in mind control

The World Needs More SEDER!!!