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new thread. Launch, baby, launch

Multiple Polls Now Show Obama Ahead In Florida
By Eric Kleefeld - October 1, 2008, 10:18AM
One key thing about the new Quinnipiac polling released today is this: It is now the fourth recent public to find Barack Obama ahead in Florida, a state most observers have previously thought would be John McCain's to lose:

• Quinnipiac: Obama 51%, McCain 43%, in a poll released today. Three weeks ago, McCain lead 50%-43%.

• PPP (D): Obama 49%, McCain 45%, in a poll released yesterday. Three weeks ago, McCain was up 50%-45%.

• ARG: Obama 47%, McCain 46%, in a poll released a few days ago. Two weeks ago, the candidates were tied 46%-46%.

• Mason-Dixon: Obama 47%, McCain 45%, in a poll from a week ago. They also had Obama ahead 45%-44% a month ago, but were something of an outlier at the time.

There are other pollsters that don't have Obama ahead, but they've all shown him making significant progress:

• Rasmussen: Tied 47%-47%, in a poll released two days ago. Late last week, McCain had a 48%-47% edge.

• SurveyUSA: McCain 48%, Obama 47%, In a poll released two days ago. Two weeks ago, McCain was up 51%-45%.

The reason for Obama's surge in Florida is the same as it is everywhere else: The economy. Both the Quinnipiac and PPP polls, which have supplied data on this, show that over 60% of Florida voters list the economy as their most important issue, and they give Obama a double-digit lead over McCain on how to handle it. By contrast, security issues only register in the teens, and McCain's advantage on those doesn't appear to be big enough to overcome the economic hurdles.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/multiple_polls_n...

Another site said that Palin's popularity in Florida has fallen also.

Launch that sucker!

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thank gawd Sam and Marc aren't suspending the launch in order to save the economy!

http://www.maronvseder.com/

Happe Talk

“The number of job cuts announced in September rose as the economy slowed,” according to a report released today by outplacement consultancy Challenger, Gray & Christmas, Inc. Cuts “rose 7.2% to 95,094 from 88,736 the previous month, and were 33% higher than the same month last year, when 71,739 cuts were announced.”

http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/30/news/economy/challenger_jobs/index.htm?e...

The Senate will vote on its version of the bailout bill today, which added tax breaks for businesses and alternative energy and higher government insurance for bank deposits to the version rejected by the House earlier this week. Sens. John McCain (R-AZ), Barack Obama (D-IL), and Joe Biden (D-DE) are all expected to return to Washington to vote.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/30/campaign.wrap/index.html

eya Sam, good luck to you and Maron!

Even GWU Battleground realizes there's no reason to carry water for a loser anymore:

The difference is explained at the bottom of the slide in the PDF. "On 9/29 - Weighting changed from Party ID, Race, and Age to Race and Age." So according to the graphic, they stopped weighting by party identification on today's release. Does that explain the reversal in vote preferences? By all appearances, it does.
http://www.pollster.com/blogs/

Still a haven for the McLiarVoters though:
Oklahoma
M 64 O 34

(Tom Joad knew it was hopeless place)

City and state governments “have been effectively shut out of the bond markets for the last two weeks, raising the cost of day-to-day operations, threatening longer-term projects and dampening a broad source of jobs and stability.” The sudden loss of credit, “one of the ripple effects of the current financial turmoil, is affecting local governments in all parts of the country, rich and poor alike.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/01/business/01muni.html?_r=1&ref=todayspa...

Yesterday, Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-OR) “created legislation meant to help the capsizing financial markets right themselves.” “DeFazio, a vociferous opponent of the Bush Administration’s $700 billion Wall Street bailout, calls his legislation the ‘No BAILOUTS Act.’ Read about the details of the legislation here.

http://www.defazio.house.gov/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=441

Hey! Will there be an audio podcast of the new show???

I'm @ work @ 3 pm & can't stream *sniff*
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Has anyone tried e-mailing senators and congressmen today? I got through to the Repub in my state and Pelosi but can't get through to any of the Democrats. Just error pages. Wyden says the new deal is not good~still puts the burden on taxpayers. He says he's working with (ew) Issa for a plan that does not use our money to momentarily patch their problems, but deals with the actual underlying problems. I'd like to hear more about that!

they will pass the dreaded bail out and the House will do it immediately afterwords as well. Just watch. AND they are going to pass this awful Nukes for Mangos deal with India today.

This country will not be fit to live in shortly.

McCain: ‘I Always Aspire To Be A Dictator’
Discussing the Wall Street bailout yesterday during an interview with the Des Moines Register editorial board, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said the failure of Congress to act is “just not acceptable.” Then — presumably making an attempt at humor — McCain added that, if only he were a dictator, then the bill would be just right:

MCCAIN: I just want to make a comment about the obvious issue and that is the failure of Congress to act yesterday. Its just not acceptable. […] This is just a not acceptable situation. I’m not saying this is the perfect answer. If I were dictator, which I always aspire to be, I would write it a little bit differently. (Bush II)

Watch it: at link

McCain also complained that “people can’t reach across the aisle, you know we give poison speeches” — a seeming reference to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-CA) so-called “partisan” floor speech on Monday that House Republicans cited for the bailout bill’s failure. Many of his House GOP colleagues, however, have since walked away from blaming Pelosi’s speech.

But less than one minute later, McCain said, “[L]et’s not point the finger of blame for a while,” despite the fact that he himself blamed Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) for the bill’s failure.

But McCain isn’t the first U.S. government official to dream of dictatorship. President Bush has said on at least two occasions that a dictatorship “would be a heck of a lot easier.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/01/mccain-aspire-dictator/

UpdateJosh Marshall has more on McCain's Des Moines Register interview.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/221050.php

http://mvslive.com/

if you haven't added it to your favorites yet shame on you

(202) 224-3121

Call YOUR Senators! Say NO to Republican Tax Cuts!

I know it's the Senate and they don't give a fuck about their constituents, but hammer 'em anyway! And, for good measure, let them know that replacing them with better Democrats and Independents is always an option.

Tell them that if they want to be Republicans, they can always join the Lieberman party.

Monday's vote in favor of the failed $700 billion bailout were closely correlated to donations from finance, real estate, and insurance lobbyists, especially within the Democratic party, according to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. The group's study showed that since 1989 legislators who voted in favor of the bill had received 51 percent -- nearly $300,000-- more on average than those who voted against it. The bill was defeated 228-205. (OpenSecret.org)

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/finance-sector-gave-50-percent.h...

he was making a lot of sense, seriously, lot of sense about what needs to happen next

so sensible in fact that i doubt any of those ideas will be taken into consideration in the least by the leadership - this is probably why they shut down the websites and switchboards, they're getting ready to do something dirty, and they hope to avoid any reckoning

President Bush signed a bill yesterday that provides funding for the first phase of a satellite surveillance program, despite worries that data gathered could be used in ways that violate civil liberties. As now configured, the $634 billion would go to the development of emergency response and scientific needs. But a 60-page Government Accountability Office report detailed the measure's shortcomings, bolstering the claims of Democrats who have resisted implementing the program, called the National Applications Office, since it was proposed a year ago. (Wall Street Journal)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122282336428992785.html

Former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman and Health South founder Richard Scrushy, convicted in 2006 of federal funds bribery, conspiracy, and mail fraud, asked the decision be overturned in briefs filed Monday, saying that the former trial was marred by jury misconduct. In addition, they claim that the court had not proved that their dealings represented illegal activity as opposed to normal campaign contributions. The court will hear the appeal in December. (Birmingham News)

http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/metro.ssf?/base/news/1222762511621...

Fucking finally!

via TPM

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/planned_parentho...

A Major New Plan Coming from Donna Edwards, Peter DeFazio, Progressives

"U.S. Rep. Peter DeFazio (OR-04), an outspoken critic of the Bush/Paulson bailout, along with Rep. Kaptur (OH-09), Rep. Scott (VA-03), Rep. Cummings (MD-07), Rep. Doggett (TX-25), Rep. Holt (NJ-12), Rep. Edwards (MD-04) and Rep. Hirono (HI-02), will introduce legislation today to address the failures in the financial markets. DeFazio believes that the Paulson/Bush proposal is based on a flawed premise: if the American taxpayers spend $700 billion to buy Wall Street's toxic assets - a plan pundits are calling "trash for cash" - it will create liquidity in our financial markets and will somehow trickle-down to Main Street.
DeFazio's plan is not in any way based on the Paulson/Bush plan. Instead of throwing taxpayer dollars at the program and crossing our fingers that the plan work, the measure will direct the Administration to take five simple steps, suggested by noted economist and former head of the FDIC, William Isaac, to re-regulate the markets and move America towards a healthy financial future.
The legislation will be available at the press conference.

Who: Rep. DeFazio, Rep. Kaptur (OH-09), Rep. Scott (VA-03), Rep. Cummings (MD-07), Rep. Doggett (TX-25), Rep. Holt (NJ-12), Rep. Edwards (MD-04) and Rep. Hirono (HI-02)
What: Press Conference to introduce legislation to fix financial markets
Where: House Radio and TV Gallery
When: 3 pm TODAY"

Here's the DeFazio plan. I posted a link up blog, but here it is again:

http://www.defazio.house.gov/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=441

them aginst us.

the real trick is going to be

maximizing the "Us" and minimizing the "them"

most of them control the means to control communication and apply force,

at least in the conventional society they promote. reality is a bit different.

two things i keep in mind. Assoles never relinquish power gracefully and the kind of thinking that got us into this mess won't get us out of it.

class/race war. simplistic stupidity, greed, default reaction, refusal to accept responsibility.

global thinking VS one world order dictatorship.

pebbles, ponds and ripples.

Tax cuts are a proven way to stimulate the economy.

You are going to see a lot more of this over the next four years.

Obama's liberal instincts tell him to increase taxes on the rich.

But Obama's advisers have already told him that increasing taxes can't happen.

When you cut taxes on the middle class they spend the money at Walmart and the gas pump.

I hope today's plan fails, sinking the 'give our money to Paulson' idea and makes way for something more like this. Thank goodness for progressives!
Kucinich was fantastic on Rachel's show last night. He half smiled while she was talking, as if appreciating being asked intelligent questions for a change. Also, his 1930s/Our Gang haircut looks good.

"This week's new hypothetical electoral map from Karl Rove & Co. shows Democrat Barack Obama's current electoral lead widening over Republican Sen. John McCain to the largest margin since the GOP's National Convention right after Labor Day.

Obama now leads, according to Rove's calculations, 259 electoral votes to McCain's 163 with 116 in the toss-up category. The freshman Illinois senator has picked up 48 electoral votes since last week from Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylania."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/electoral-map-2.html

i helped him get elected when he first ran in lane county.

good man, don't think he's going to run for re-election.

It's the solutions that are tough.

October 1st starts the military batalion put in place to keep us under control.

Bush signed the bill today to spy on us.

Orwell had his date wrong but it seems he had the rest right.

Prosecutors: Son of ex-Liberian leader beat, beheaded foes
During opening statements, federal prosecutors accused Charles ''Chuckie'' Taylor Jr. of torturing the opponents of his father's regime in Liberia.

Taylor was charged under a 1994 law that permits the federal government to prosecute anyone suspected of carrying out torture outside the United States as long as the suspect is a U.S. citizen, legal resident or is present in this country, regardless of nationality.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/southflorida/story/706977.html

(Ironic sidenote:
Absolved of his sins, Robertson dug his heels back in African soil. In 1999 he signed an $8 million agreement with Liberian tyrant Charles Taylor that guaranteed Robertson's Freedom Gold Ltd.--an offshore company registered to the same address as his Christian Broadcasting Network--mining rights in Liberia, and gave Taylor a 10 percent stake in the company. When the United States intervened in Liberia in 2003, forcing Taylor and the Al Qaeda operatives he was harboring to flee, Robertson accused President Bush of "undermining a Christian, Baptist president to bring in Muslim rebels to take over the country.")
Pat Robertson's Katrina Cash
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050919/blumenthal

Are you talking about Obama and Biden?

I remember when the prediction was that President Bush would cancel this election.

I remember when the prediction was detainment camps for those who opposed Vice President Cheney.

Does all of that go away now that reality has proved it a fantasy?

Or do all the Ouija board predictions transfer by default to Obama / Biden?

a lil bit of revolutionary history.

Vanguard parties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanguard_party

Thanks. Good find.
God, an ad has to be made with those remarks played along side Bush's dictator remarks!

Morning doggie! Lovely day! Mooseburgers on the grill tomorrow night, maybe even today for MvS.

I see you left your balls at home today!

What's with the incoherent whining?

Thanks for the Link, Toni! :)

Is this a sign of things to come from the White House?

One can only ponder..

Senate to Vote Today on the Bailout Plan

The senators Tuesday night issued no details of their proposal and said none would be available until Wednesday. The lawmakers were gambling that the tax package would appeal to lawmakers who helped sink the measure in the House on Monday, without driving off Democrats who have opposed extending the tax incentives without offsetting spending cuts elsewhere.

House Democratic leaders reacted cautiously to the new approach, with Representative Steny H. Hoyer of Maryland, the majority leader and a chief advocate of paying for the tax breaks, saying, “I am talking with my House colleagues about the Senate action and how to best proceed.”

On NBC’s “Today” program Wednesday morning, Mr. Hoyer said he was concerned that the tax issues could complicate the chances of passage when the legislation comes back to the House floor for a vote.

“There’s no doubt the tax package is very controversial,” he said, according to The Associated Press, ”There’s no doubt in my mind that the Senate added this because they thought that’s the only way they could get it passed.” He said, however, that he was not pleased the tax provisions were attached to the bill.

But House Republican leaders, who said they had been advised about the Senate plan, said the new elements would appeal to their rank-and-file, which voted strongly against the legislation Monday. A spokesman for Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, the Republican leader, said that “Mr. Boehner was consulted and gave the green light.”

Representative Roy Blunt of Missouri, the Republican whip, said Wednesday on the “Today” show that prospects for passage had improved with the changes made by the Senate. Mr. Blunt according to The A.P. said one reason he was more optimistic was that lawmakers are hearing less vocal opposition from their districts.

Senator Christopher J. Dodd, Democrat of Connecticut and chairman of the Senate banking committee, said the Senate decided to move quickly, citing signs of regret from some House members after the markets plunged in response to their initial vote.

“I think their will is coming back having heard from their constituents,” Mr. Dodd said.

Lawmakers said the stock market response to the rejection was a sobering experience that could enhance prospects for a revised plan. Some anxiety lifted on Tuesday, as the Dow Jones industrial average rose 485 points, regaining more than half of the 778 points it lost on Monday.

Still, deep concern remained about credit markets, as the rate that banks charge one another shot higher — to a record high by one widely used measure — making borrowing more difficult.

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Speaker Nancy Pelosi was noncommittal about the new Senate plan Tuesday night, but other Democrats said it might be difficult to reject given the crisis and the array of tax breaks. “The Senate will vote tomorrow night, and the Congress will work its will,” Ms. Pelosi said.

House officials spent much of Tuesday considering their own changes, including an extension of unemployment pay and a $1,000 tax credit for less affluent homeowners.

But those plans are not likely to advance given the Senate decision. While the Senate left the door open slightly to other additions to the bill, such revisions would need the agreement of the full Senate, and the House proposals were likely to be blocked by Senate Republicans.

“Opening this up all over again to other things may doom it,” Mr. Dodd cautioned.

The Senate proposal would cost more than $100 billion and extend and expand many individual and business tax breaks, including tax credits for the production and use of renewable energy sources, like solar energy and wind power.

The bill would also extend the business tax credit for research and development, expand the child tax credit, protect millions of families from the alternative minimum tax and provide tax relief to victims of recent floods, tornadoes and severe storms.

Members of the House and the Senate said the bill would create tens of thousands of jobs and reduce the nations’ dependence on foreign oil. But the two chambers have been at odds over whether and how to offset the cost of extending the many tax breaks covered by the legislation. The major obstacle has been Representative Hoyer of Maryland and other centrist Democrats.

More here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/02/business/02bailout.html?_r=2&hp=&oref=...

honesty versus deception,

fairness versus domination.

self serving versus serving others.

concepts and issues with real world effects.

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bird song in my garden,

simple things that are right in the world.

All of a sudden there are a bunch of nobama bumper stickers here. On the radio yesterday I heard a call from a guy who called himself Nobama John who wanted to talk about keeping 'that communist' out of his Whitehouse. As a liberal, I believe in people's freedom to express any position they want. My problem comes in that there is no support for their team, just trashing of mine. I'd disagree but not be so offended if the bumper stickers said 'support mccaine/palin' under the nobama. Really though, graphically speaking, at casual glance it looks like an Obama sticker, so not good advertising anyway.

LOL!

If you look at McCain's trendline, "227" is right around when WaDo surfaced again and about when we lost mambo.

It dropped so fast after that he's too ashamed to leave and reduced to sitting on the floor in a puddle of his own piss.

Amen. I've been waiting for PP to do something like this.

Ouch, ouch, and ouch.

Soros floats alternative bailout plan with Dems
By Alexander Bolton
Posted: 09/30/08 11:19 PM [ET]

The billionaire financier George Soros, a major Democratic financial backer, is floating his own rescue plan among Democratic lawmakers who are uncertain what to do in the wake of a surprise defeat of a proposed $700 billion rescue package proposed by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson.
Soros has outlined his plan in an opinion editorial in the Financial Times and circulated a concept paper among decision-makers.

Specifically, the liberal philanthropist has proposed that government funds should be used to recapitalize the American banking system by purchasing equity in banks and investment firms.

Democratic Rep. Jim Moran (Va.) scheduled a meeting Tuesday afternoon with Robert Johnson, a former manager of the Soros Fund Management, to discuss the proposal.

Moran compared the proposal to Warren Buffet’s $5 billion investment in the investment firm Goldman Sachs Group in return for preferred stock and warrants to buy common stock at a discount.

Soros has also contacted Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-Ill.) presidential campaign to share his views on the financial crisis and the best way to solve it.

Soros described the plan he outlined in his concept paper in an opinion editorial that appeared in the Financial Times early Wednesday morning, Greenwich Meridian Time.

“Instead of purchasing troubled assets, the bulk of the funds ought to be used to recapitalize the banking system,” Soros wrote.

“The Treasury secretary would rely on bank examiners rather than delegate implementation of [the Troubled Asset Relief Program] to Wall Street firms,” he wrote in reference to the plan first crafted by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson. “The bank examiners would establish how much additional equity capital each bank needs in order to be properly capitalized according to existing capital requirements.”

“The recapitalized banks would be allowed to increase their leverage, so they would resume lending,” he wrote.

Soros has emerged as a harsh critic of the Treasury Department, especially of Paulson’s proposal for the government to buy $700 billion of distressed mortgage-backed securities to restore the flow of credit in the financial markets.

It is unclear whether his entry onto the debris-strewn field of the debate will help lawmakers reach agreement on an alternative proposal or further anger House Republicans, who blew up a compromise plan on the House floor Monday.

“The two main principles are to inject more cash into the securities market and shore up home mortgages,” said Moran, who has been briefed on the proposal. “He thinks it has to be more direct than the government buying up tranches. He doesn’t think the government should be buying up toxic stock.”

More here:

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/soros-floats-alternative-bailout-pla...

Are you talkin to me?

Is your fetish kickin up again today?

Or are you smoking again?

false power always fails in the end.

authentic power will triumph eventually

put on your seatbelts!

Happe Talk

No More Bailout Votes Until Congress Hears From Some REAL Economists."

Cindy Sheehan:

ACTION PAGE:

Why Is Congress Even Listening To Those Who Caused The Wreck On How To Fix It?

The Paulson plan to plunder the public treasury is a non-starter.

Before Congress does anything else they must take the time to hear from some real experts, like Nobel Prize winner in economics, Joseph E. Stiglitz, who offers real wisdom in this article from the Nation.......Con't.

Link To Petition - Please Read & Sign - Thank You

*I think I finally got it to work without My info in the petition..Please let me know if My info is still in the Petition when you go there..Thank you !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

in Wisconsin!

I hope they repeat it. I hope we can get the video.

Pro-War Group Offering Cash For Frats To Demonstrate At VP Debate

In hopes of organizing a robust demonstration for the vice presidential debate this Thursday in St. Louis, the pro-Iraq War (and ostensibly pro-McCain) organization, Vets for Freedom, is resorting to offering local college fraternities hundreds of dollars if their members come and hold signs.

In an email obtained by the Huffington Post, Vets for Freedom field staffer Laura Meyer offered a fraternity at St. Louis University a "sizable donation" - plus free lunch - if it could use their pledges to demonstrate outside the VP debate.

"I was emailing you today," wrote Meyer, "because I am trying to find people who would be willing to hold up signs for a few hours in the afternoon this Thursday outside the VP debate site. It's only for a few hours and you can gain a lot from it.... first off, lunch for any guys who agree to volunteer will be on me. Secondly, they will get lots of media attention! My organization did a similar thing in Mississippi last week and a ton of them were on TV. Meaning, the guys could wear their [REDACTED] gear while holding up our signs and get attention for their frat. Also, they will get to hang out with a bunch of really cool Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans.

"Lastly, and here's the kicker.... if you guys can get us at least 20 volunteers for those few hours, my organization will make a sizable donation to your fraternity. If you use pledges you could look at it as 'free money and free publicity'. If this sounds like something you may be willing to help us out with, please let me know ASAP!"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/01/pro-war-group-offering-ca_n_130...

and you'll find instructions about podcasts, vodcasts, subscriptions, past shows, audio only etc

http://mvslive.com/

and if nothing comes up under those tabs do not panic! everything will be in effect after the show is in effect (I assume)

Hey, McLiar. Eight years from now when President Obama is serving out his final days, and:

We are at peace.
Bin Laden is captured.
We have a budget surplus.
We have national health care.
We have free college education.
We have general income growth.
We have five new, brilliant SC justices.
We are building high speed trains across the country.
We are getting 35% of our energy from alternative sources
We have publicly funded elections.
We have rebuilt our education system.
We have reduced our prison population by 25%.
The Dow is close to 20,000.

And SAM SEDER & MIKE PAPANTONIO are on nightly tv.

What are you gunna be saying?

i'm sure it will be something along the lines of:

thank you sir. may i have another?

Yea, we got those stupid Nobama signs and stickers here too. While driving they look like just another Obama sigh.
Keep spending that RNC money!

Polls: Obama Way Up, Palin And Economy Dragging McCain Down
By Eric Kleefeld - October 1, 2008, 12:09PM
Two new national polls show Barack Obama expanding his lead over John McCain to a seven-point margin, thanks in large part to two big problems for McCain. The first one is the economy -- and the second is Sarah Palin.

The numbers from Pew: Obama 49%, McCain 42%, with a ±3.5% margin of error. And from Time: Obama 50%, McCain 43%, with a ±3% margin of error.

In the Time poll, 65% say their personal economic situation has declined in the last year, and this group is going 59% for Obama. In the Pew poll, Obama is trusted over McCain to improve the economy by 51%-33%.

And here's the bad news for Palin. Time says that McCain is losing women at a faster clip than Palin was able to gain them -- before the two conventions, Obama led among women by ten points, which then narrowed to one point after she was picked. Now he leads by 17 points.

And in Pew, Palin's public image has taken a very serious fall. Three weeks ago, Palin was seen as qualified to be president by a 52%-39% margin. Now that number has been reversed: Only 37% think she's qualified, and 51% say she is not.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/polls_obama_way_...

"All circuits are busy...."

is what I'm getting.

Hmmmmm.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadre

Cadre (from the French; pronounced /ˈkɑːdreɪ/) is the backbone of an organization, usually a political or military organization. The expression can be in the singular or the plural. Generally it is applied to a small core of committed and experienced people who are capable of providing leadership and of training newer members.

Hahahahahahahaha.

I'm gonna ask, "Where did ya get the money"?

I do like you optimism.

But I fear this group is going to attack Obama just as they have Bush.

I say that because we will still have Capitalism.

We will still be at war.

Drugs will still be illegal.

The rich will still hold the power.

And the basic problem the far left has is that they hate the government in general.

I am willing to give Obama every chance to succeed.

But I fear he will get the same attacks that Pelosi and Democrat Congress have received.

Hahahahahahahaha.

I'm gonna ask, "Where did ya get the money"?

I do like you optimism.

But I fear this group is going to attack Obama just as they have Bush.

I say that because we will still have Capitalism.

We will still be at war.

Drugs will still be illegal.

The rich will still hold the power.

And the basic problem the far left has is that they hate the government in general.

I am willing to give Obama every chance to succeed.

But I fear he will get the same attacks that Pelosi and Democrat Congress have received.

Schumer: Bailout Has Broad Support
Sen. Schumer said there is "broad bipartisan support" for the new bailout package, which the Senate is set to vote on tonight.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/10/schumer_says_bailout_bill_has....

Palin: Media Hates Idea Of 'Joe Six-Pack' As VP
In a radio interview with Hugh Hewitt, Sarah Palin claimed "there's a lot of mocking of my personal faith" and painted the media as angry elitists hostile to her because she represents the average American.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/palin_media_hate...

Poker, Hookers, and Black Contracts: Or How To Make a CIA Trial Go Away

It wasn't the staff mistress that concerned Langley's spymasters when CIA official Kyle "Dusty" Foggo pled guilty to wire fraud this week. It was the 27 other charges he faced.

Yes, the stock market was falling apart, but up on the seventh floor of CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, you could almost hear the sighs of relief Monday thanks to another bit of news: Former top Agency official Kyle Dustin Foggo had quietly entered a guilty plea in an Alexandria, Virginia, federal courtroom. Henry Paulson still has his job cut out trying to rescue the banking system, but Langley's spymasters had just been spared the imminent prospect of having some of the nation's most sensitive secrets spilled in what promised to be one of the more revelatory and cinematic trials of the Bush era.

As court documents laid out in 28 charges, the man known to colleagues as "Dusty," a former logistics officer, served as the CIA's number three official and effectively day to day manager when he badgered the Agency to hire one of his mistresses, identified in the indictment as "E.R.": "On or about March 19, 2005," the indictment reads, "Foggo sent the CIA Acting General Counsel an email stating, in part, that his staff would tag E.R.'s conditional offer of employment as 'ExDir Interest' in order to 'zip her to the top of the pile.'" (E.R. was indeed hired, to a new position Foggo created—deputy director of administration. "ExDir" refers to Foggo's position as CIA Executive Director.)

snip

But it wasn't the hookers, the card games, the water contract, or even the staff mistress that concerned the Agency's executives when Foggo spared them by entering a guilty plea on a single count of wire fraud Monday. In exchange for the plea, prosecutors agreed to drop the 27 other charges and requested only three years prison time out of the 20 Foggo could have faced. ("Your lawyers did a good job for you," US District judge James C. Cacheris told Foggo after he accepted his guilty plea, with evident understatement.)

No, what truly worried Agency brass were the darker secrets their former top logistics officer was threatening to spill had his case gone to trial as scheduled on November 3. They included the massive contracts Foggo was discussing with Wilkes, estimated by one source at over $300 million dollars. "Wilkes was working on several other huge deals when the hammer fell," a source familiar with Foggo's discussions with Wilkes told me. What kinds of deals? According to the source, they included creating and running a secret plane network, for whatever needs the CIA has for secret planes now that the network it used for extraordinary rendition flights has been outed. "In or about December 2004," the Foggo indictment says, "Foggo discussed with Wilkes and J.C. the idea that Foggo might be able to get Wilkes a classified government contract to supply air support services to the CIA…. In or about January 2005, Wilkes directed various ADCS employees to begin developing an air support proposal that would be designed to answer the CIA's classified needs as outlined by Foggo."

More here:

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/10/how-to-make-a-CIA-trial-...

>>In a radio interview with Hugh Hewitt, Sarah Palin claimed "there's a lot of mocking of my personal faith"

that's because her religion believes in witches.

btw -- did you hear the `witch-hunter's' voice? sounds like the voice of satan from some bad made for tv movie from the 70s.

What's wrong with believing in witches?

Tea cheers, WD, wherever you are. :-)

has Bill Clinton in Florida, stumping for Obama. And he mentioned Obama's names several times. Giving a good speech.

>>What's wrong with believing in witches?

Who are you? why do you keep interrupting my long, meandering cat postings? ;)

Wildlife group expands reach of anti-Palin wolf ad

Tough hitting ad depicts Sarah Palin as advocate of 'brutal' aerial wolf hunting in Alaska

JIM KUHNHENN and MARY PEMBERTON
AP News

Oct 01, 2008 02:18 EST

These are not the typical wolves of political ads — not the menaces depicted by George W. Bush in 2004 or John McCain just a couple of weeks ago. These animals are bloodied, gruesome victims.

As depicted in a Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund ad, they are Sarah Palin's prey. The commercial denounces, in graphic form, the aerial hunting of wolves in Alaska, a practice Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee, has supported as the state's governor.

The wildlife group is expanding the reach of the provocative ad. Starting this week, what had been limited to certain markets in Florida, Michigan and Ohio will now air in Colorado, Virginia and Wisconsin.

It also will air in Missouri in time for Thursday's vice presidential debate in St. Louis.

The ad displays dark images of Palin against footage of wolves being hunted down in the snow from low-flying planes. A wolf's carcass is shown tied to the wing strut of a plane.

"As Alaska governor, Sarah Palin actively promotes the brutal and unethical aerial hunting of wolves and other wildlife," the ad's announcer says. "And Palin even encouraged the cruelty by proposing a $150 bounty for the severed foreleg of each killed wolf, and then introduced a bill to make the killing easier."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/10/wildlife_group_expands_reach_o...

Emails overwhelm House web site
'Tremendous backlash' of support and outrage after bailout vote.

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Ailing_US_House_website_limps_back__0930200...

US manufacturing index drops to 43.5%
ISM reports lowest level since October 2001, biggest drop since '84.

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid={38771BDA-EC70-41C6-8365-A1DE37303BA3}&siteid=mktw

US urged to bolster missile, space defenses against China: paper

draft report recommends that the United States build new missile, sea-based and space-based defenses to deal with China's growing nuclear and conventional forces, a newspaper said Tuesday.

The draft by a State Department advisory board said China aims to build forces that are not just capable of retaking Taiwan but also of projecting power beyond east Asia, The Washington Times reported.

China's "major objective is to counter US presence and US military capabilities in East Asia through the acquisition of offensive capacities in critical functional areas that systematically exploit US vulnerabilities," it quoted the report as saying.

China is developing capabilities for "asymmetric warfare," such as space and computer weapons, that could help it defeat stronger US armed forces, according to a copy of the draft the daily said it had obtained.

The report warned of gaps in US missile defenses, dependence on space for communications, reliance on aircraft carriers to project power to China's shores, and "fragile electronics and the Internet," the newspaper said.

The draft recommends that the United States obtain new offensive space and cyber warfare capabilities and missile defenses as well as "more robust sea- and space-based capabilities" to deter any crisis over Taiwan, the daily said.

The ISAB report said China was headed for expansion after centuries as a regional power.

"In China's view, Taiwan is the key to breakout: If China is to become a global power, the first step must include control of this island," the report was quoted as saying.

Once it controls the island of Taiwan, China would then be able to control the neighboring seas and to project power eastward, according to the report.

The draft by the Secretary of State's International Security Advisory Board (ISAB) is significant, it added, because US government and private-sector analyses have until now not seen China as a US security challenge.

The Washington Times said the report has not been officially released, but could be released in a few weeks.

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_urged_to_bolster_missile_space_d_1001200...

not if I have anything to do with it....2 terms is enough for accomplishment. Entrenchment rots. Absolute power and all that

regarding the mangos for nukes trade agreement. They have been negotiating that nightmare all morning.

Earlier, a claim was made that the US now has a 50% chance of a nuclear attack in the next 10 years. This bill would make that probability much greater. THAT IS A FACT. This bill destroys any chance of controlling weapons proliferation. India has already shown that they will send weapons grade stuff to Iran. This deal is synonymous in my mind with paying both the Sunni's and the Shia to attack American soldiers.

I just don't understand why this is a good deal for America or the world. India is a great country but they don't have a stake in the security of America.

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U.S. general wants help in Afghanistan now
Troops needed 'as quickly as possible,' top commander in Afghanistan says

WASHINGTON - The top American military commander in Afghanistan said Wednesday that he needs more troops and other aid "as quickly as possible" in a counterinsurgency battle that could get worse before it gets better.

Gen. David McKiernan said it's not just a question of troops — but more economic aid and more political aid as well.

Speaking to Pentagon reporters, the head of NATO forces in Afghanistan said there has been a significant increase in foreign fighters coming in from neighboring Pakistan this year — including Chechens, Uzbeks, Saudis and Europeans.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26972132

I guess there's nothing wrong with believing in witches...It's the part about labeling a person a witch and persecuting them I have a problem with...

and besides, everyone knows the threat from witches is way overblown. It is the mummies who pose the real threat.

and speaking of mummies...the other night I was watching the Sci-fi channel and they had a mummy movie on. The movies didn't actually have a mummy, per se, just the linen wrappings from on. these bandages sought vengeance...I'm not sure why...by flying through the air and entangling its victims.

I wasn't paying too close attention but it occurred to me that the only ones who might be interested in fighting with strips of cloth would be my cats.

and even they weren't interested.

>>just don't understand why this is a good deal for America or the world. India is a great country but they don't have a stake in the security of America.

You obviously don't like mangoes?

juicy, delicious mangoes....

Report Implicates White House
E-Mails Hint at Involvement in Prosecutor Firings, Officials Say

By Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 1, 2008; A15

In 18 months of searching, Justice Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine and Office of Professional Responsibility chief H. Marshall Jarrett have uncovered new e-mail messages hinting at heightened involvement of White House lawyers and political aides in the firings of nine federal prosecutors two years ago.

But they could not probe much deeper because key officials declined to be interviewed and a critical timeline drafted by the White House was so heavily redacted that it was "virtually worthless as an investigative tool," the authorities said.

"We were unable to fully develop the facts regarding the removal of [David C.] Iglesias and several other U.S. Attorneys because of the refusal by certain key witnesses to be interviewed by us, as well as the White House's decision not to provide . . . internal documents to us," the investigators concluded in their report.

The standoff is a central reason that Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey on Monday named a veteran public-corruption prosecutor, Nora R. Dannehy, to continue the investigation, directing her to give him a preliminary report on the status of the case in 60 days.

But lawmakers who helped expose irregularities in the ouster of the prosecutors say they are concerned about more delays.

Yesterday, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) wrote Mukasey a letter asking whether Dannehy would have the authority to compel documents from the White House and testimony from former presidential aide Karl Rove and former White House counsel Harriet E. Miers, who rejected invitations to meet voluntarily with the inspector general.

He also expressed concern that any information Dannehy may obtain would be kept under wraps because of grand jury secrecy rules, leaving members of the public in the dark. "There are a lot of questions that need to be answered," Whitehouse said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/30/AR200809...

Barack Obama's Team Believes He Can Win by a Landslide

"Public polling companies and the media have underestimated the scale of new Democratic voters registration in these states," the campaign official told a friend. "We're much stronger on the ground in Virginia and North Carolina than people realize. If we get out the vote this may not be close at all."

"Obama has many more paths to the nomination than McCain," the source said. "They think they can defend the Kerry states. Iowa is gone. That's five votes. New Mexico is in the bag. Then Obama has four or five different ways of winning. He can go Nevada or Colorado, Virginia, any of those, even Indiana.

"McCain has got to run the board, the whole Bush table. He can probably lose New Mexico and Iowa. He can't afford to lose anything else."

The official added: "The poll numbers say Florida's back in play. McCain hasn't spent a single penny there and that's Obama's calculation, that he can capitalise on that. The Republicans can't lose Florida or they're done for."
http://www.alternet.org/election08/101017/barack_obama%27s_team_believes...

Florida
Obama 51, McCain 43

McCain & Social Security

It's hard to attack his position, because the Villagers will unanimously say JOHN MCCAIN DIDN'T SUPPORT PRIVATIZATION SO STOP SAYING THAT even though he, you know, did.

-Atrios 10:54

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008/10/the_mccain_bubble_2.p...

Hey Chubbs - how's the face today? I'd suggest maybe some mummy wrapping :-)

I'll try to quit interrupting the meanderings.

I have a kitty of my own. She prefers the teenager. She does things with my teenager that I would never get away with. For example, I'm not allowed to pick her up for more than 5 seconds, 10 tops. On the other hand, she will lie in my teenager's arms for hours on end, in total bliss.

She does come when I call her name though. Unless she's taking a nap. Or watching TV.

She and the 10 year old have a love-hate relationship, but I appreciate her effort to break the child of leaving cups of beverage on her headboard shelf. The cat loves to knock said cup off, splashing said liquid in child's face - usually around 2 a.m. *snark*

Just a day after three court decisions cleared a path, voters swarmed elections board offices Tuesday in Greater Cincinnati to start the state's new 36-day-long polling season.

A three-judge panel of the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati ruled Tuesday against the Ohio Republican Party's appeal of a disputed early-voting window that allows voters to register and vote on the same day.

The panel denied the GOP request that ballots cast during a weeklong period be segregated from other ballots. Monday, the party lost a bid to stop same-day registration and voting.

...

Ohio has allowed limited absentee-voting for many years, but since 2005, voters have not had to give a reason to receive an absentee ballot and cast a vote either by mail or in person. The shift in law opened the floodgates for voters seeking to avoid long lines or other Election Day complications.

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20081001/NEWS01...

MADRID, Spain - A report marked confidential and bearing the official seal of Spain's Defense Ministry charges that Pakistan's spy service was helping arm Taliban insurgents in 2005 for assassination plots against the Afghan government.

The report, which was obtained by Cadena Ser radio and posted on the station's Web site on Wednesday, also says Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence spy agency, or ISI, helped the Taliban procure improvised explosive devices, or IEDs, to use in attacks against vehicles.

It alleges that Pakistan may have provided training and intelligence to the Taliban in camps set up on Pakistani soil.

"The plan is that the TBs (Taliban) use these RCIEDs (remote control IEDs) to assassinate high-ranking officials," the report warns. The August 2005 document, which is marked "confidential" and topped with the Defense Ministry seal and the title of Spain's military intelligence agency, does not describe the source of the information ...

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jkLZheog8nftjOzJx1mZuIaIMPoAD93HNCAO0

He was on KPOJ620 AM's Morning Show today, just like every Wednesday.

He spoke at my wife's PSU graduation.

Man, I can't wait to hear this. If only I could cancel my 2pm class!

Quick question: do I need to register separately for the Maron vs. Seder site, or can I just use this account and login?

and just watch

as for the chat, i'm not sure how that's gonna work out, we'll probably need to register (on the same mvslive site under the chat) with a new nick or same, we'll have to find out after it gets going, since now it's offline

for the replays and podcasts, we'll probably have to subscribe, not sure if immediately or after a while

I have a wordpress account, and wordpress lets me sign in - but the new site doesn't...do you know how to register on it please?

"Governor Palin what is your position...?"

Critics fear the deal weakens any position taken on nuclear programmes in other countries, such as Iran.

"President Bush and his aides were so eager for a foreign policy success that they didn't even try to get India to limit its weapons programme in return," the New York Times said in an editorial on Tuesday.

"They got no promise from India to stop producing bomb-making material, no promise to to expand its arsenal, and no promise not to resume nuclear testing."

Condoleezza Rice, the US secretary of state, said on Tuesday that the pact was likely to pass the senate vote.

"I certainly hope that it can get done, because it would be a landmark agreement for India and the United States," Rice said.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2008/10/2008101123334458591.h...

On the other hand, what is Biden getting for this:
BIDEN Lauds Committee Passage of US-India Nuclear Cooperation Agreement

“Enactment of this bill will help the U.S.-India relationship grow, while advancing India’s ability to meet its energy needs in a way that fits within the cooperation framework Congress has worked so hard to establish. Today’s committee passage is significant, but several steps remain before this bill becomes law. I hope Congress can complete the job in the few days remaining before adjournment—and I’ll continue fighting as hard as I can to achieve this important victory.”
http://biden.senate.gov/press/press_releases/release/?id=EFB3A9F7-D26E-4...

Obama: Accountability must accompany rescue plan By JESSE J. HOLLAND, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 7 minutes ago

LA CROSSE, Wis. - Democrat Barack Obama promised Wednesday that if he is elected president "American taxpayers will never again have to put their money on the line to pay for the greed and irresponsibility of Wall Street."

The Illinois senator said increased accountability for Wall Street and Washington must go along with the proposed $700 billion financial industry bailout bill he plans to support on Capitol Hill Wednesday.

"When I am president, financial institutions will do their part and pay their share, and American taxpayers will never again have to put their money on the line to pay for the greed and irresponsibility of Wall Street," Obama told 15,000 supporters gathered in downtown La Crosse. "That's a pledge that I'll make to you today, and it's one that I'll keep as president of the United States."

Campaigning in a key swing state that Democrat John Kerry won by only 11,000 votes in 2004, Obama also criticized Washington lobbyists.

The days of "sweetheart deals for Halliburton" and "an era in Washington where accountability has been absent, oversight has been overlooked, and your tax dollars have been turned over to wealthy CEOs" will end, Obama said, without explicitly mentioning that Halliburton was run by Dick Cheney before he became vice president.

"You need leadership that you can trust to work for you — not for the special interests who have had their thumb on the scale," Obama said. "And together, we will tell the Washington lobbyists that their days of setting the agenda are over. They have not funded this campaign, they won't work in my White House, and they won't drown out the voices of the American people when I'm president."

Obama, his running mate, Sen. Joseph Biden, and GOP presidential candidate John McCain headed off the campaign trail Wednesday afternoon to return to the Senate to vote on the financial rescue legislation.

The House rejected the Wall Street bailout plan on Monday, but the Senate added a number of sweeteners designed to please recalcitrant lawmakers, including an increase in Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. protection for bank accounts from $100,000 to $250,000.

The hike in deposit insurance was endorsed by both Obama and McCain on Tuesday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081001/ap_on_el_pr/obama_34

oooh, it's gonna be messy.

I can't figure out how to sign in either. Not sure it matters, really.

As it looks I think we can comment and once you put your info in the fields I think you can make it stick...

I'm taking lunch early so I can check it out...

McCain turns irritable, sarcastic in interview By MIKE GLOVER, Associated Press Writer
24 minutes ago

DES MOINES, Iowa - Republican presidential candidate John McCain, once renowned for his jocular sessions with journalists, appeared irritable and at times sarcastic in an interview in which he defended running mate Sarah Palin's experience and campaign ads critical of rival Barack Obama.

Meeting Tuesday with the editorial board of The Des Moines Register, McCain was asked why he picked the Alaska governor, someone "who doesn't have a lot of experience."

"Thank you, but I disagree with your fundamental principal that she doesn't have the experience," McCain replied before citing Palin's work as a PTA member, city council member, mayor and governor. "You and I just have a fundamental disagreement, and I am so happy the American people seem to be siding with me."

When it was suggested that Palin's lack of experience worried voters, McCain turned sarcastic.

"Really? I haven't detected that in the polls, I haven't detected that among the base," he said. "If there's a Georgetown cocktail party person who, quote, calls himself a conservative who doesn't like her, good luck. I don't dismiss him. I think the American people have overwhelmingly shown their approval."

At another point, McCain was asked if he's strayed from his "straight talk" image with advertising that some have labeled deceptive. McCain dryly responded, "It would be valuable if you gave some examples for an assertion of that nature."

He went on to say: "I have always had 100 percent, absolute truth, that's been my life and putting my country first. I'll match that record with anyone and an assertion that I have ever done otherwise, I take strong exception to."

As examples, a questioner at the Register noted a McCain commercial that suggested Obama favored comprehensive sex education for kindergartners and assertions by his campaign that a "lipstick on a pig" comment Obama made was a reference to Palin. News media fact-checking the sex education ad deemed it deceptive and a distortion of Obama's position.

"It certainly is your opinion and I respect your opinion, but it's not the facts," McCain said in the interview. "I respect your opinion. I strongly disagree with your assertion."

He also sarcastically referred to his five years as a prisoner of war when answering a question about his having government-financed health care throughout his military and congressional career.

"The answer is that most of my life, in serving my country, I have had health care," he said. "I did go for a period of time when the health care wasn't very good."

McCain met privately with the newspaper's editorial board after holding an economic roundtable earlier in the day at a Des Moines business. The newspaper posted videos of the session on its Web site.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081001/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_editors_1

it let me log in the other day

i think we'll probably need to sign up with that meebome.com instant messaging service, click on that little sign "get meeeb" - definitely not something i'll be able to do today, might require some figuring out how to do

that's only for the chat of course, if we wanna chat among us and with sam/marc. which would be great, but as i'm at work and watching alone is disruption enough (of my work duties) i think i'll limit myself to watching, at least for now

more feline meanderings...

I can't sit down for more than a couple minutes without one of the boys jumping in my lap. While I'm at my computer I am in constant danger of being poked from behind by the boys.

And Rufus seems to think the only reason I go to bed is so I can pet him uninterrupted.

Reminiscent of Virgil Goode.

>>I have a wordpress account, and wordpress lets me sign in - but the new site doesn't...do you know how to register on it please?

Sign in with the same nic you use here. It worked for me.

Senate debates US-India nuclear deal
By FOSTER KLUG – 1 hour ago

"This message is: you can misuse American nuclear technology and secretly develop nuclear weapons; you can test those weapons; you can build a nuclear arsenal in defiance of the United Nations resolutions, and you will be welcomed as someone exhibiting good behavior with an agreement with the United States of America," Dorgan said. "What message does that send to others who want to join the nuclear club?"
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hjHnPz7XX0WpdjPiswhHLvaXj0pAD93HPTU83

You do not have to register or log in right now to post, at least not when I did it.

& Thanks Annette for the vid... I will plan a visit sometime.. :)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KYtD-Ff_eM
Plan To Actually Solve the Problem

I went to maronvseder.com and posted a comment. It never showed up, but I went to msvlive.com and it was there. hmmm, weird, but that's ok, I'm just happy about the show, hopeful for the future, glad I won't be alone in the breadline....lots of good stuff in the world

... to kill or capture militant leaders...
Hard to understand why.

A suspected US drone killed at least six people in a missile strike in the Pakistani tribal region of North Waziristan near the Afghan border, officials said today.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/01/pakistan.usa

The nuclear deal with India trades off the possibility of closer cooperation with Pakistan in the pursuit of other aims.
http://www.harvardir.org/articles/1363/

your comments are held for moderation.

My wordpress login is Fernando37v so I won't be just Fernando anymore.

They claim it will change the way you vote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4&feature=iv&annotation_id=event_597487

wow, its the clintons fault. i don't see where thats any more believable then malkins contention that mexicans and other illegal immigrants living on the left coast are the cause.

the problem here, is the republicans truly believe they can throw all sorts of shit around, none of it truthful, but some of it sticks and that's all they really want to accomplish.

the next 45 days are going to see some of the most viscous hateful lies the republicans can come up with. they don't care if they split the country down the middle if they can hang onto their power.

we should have impeached all of them when we had the chance.

Maybe Sarah Silverman's video helped!

I'm upset because I will miss the first show.

Have to get ready for work. I'll try to pop in before I leave for work.

Have a great afternoon and enjoy the show.

Sam & Marc

going on now with mvslive. Really good link. zero issues so far. Looks really fantastic.

www.mvslive.com

...somebody come tell me if the chat window is working?

my `crazy neighbors' were just here. They are moving out but want me to take their goldfish and tank...I wasn't sure if I should take it, but It would be best for the fish.

now I have hope the cats won't be overly interested in the fishies.

3 goldfish types and one of those scum-suckers that clan the tank.

the video is crystalline

if you want to stay here.

blogging here will be easier.

Talk about lowering expectations!
Now I know why you two were using the crappiest cammeras alive!

What about the new bloggie?

>>Cute story last night

with my short term memory, I don't recall exactly which story was cute, but thanks!

ooh oooh ooooh....yahoo

1st show is on!

crap!

Too cool!

Weeeeeee!

He's playing hookie. Is that what they're saying?

www.maronvseder.com

maronvseder just crashed again.

nice clean audio and video.

occasional glitch.

still good!

And it's perfect - only when I send anything to the printer, they freeze for a second or two.

3 different camera angles

great

i guess.

shelling out a hundred plus billion a day?

could it be they don't know?

Debate Training - Biden learns what makes girls cry (WITH HOT PICS!)

http://www.236.com/news/2008/10/01/debate_training_biden_learns_w_1_9211...

While most people will be watching Thursday's VP debate to find out whether Sarah Palin will start speaking in tongues, there's also the little matter of diarrhea-mouth hothead Joe Biden. The Obama camp is worried about the notoriously unpredictable Biden getting too aggressive (read: red-faced bellowing) while addressing Gov. Palin and losing the coveted "we hate people who aren't nice to the woefully underqualified" vote. To prepare, Joe has been rehearsing with MI Gov. Jennifer Granholme standing in for Sarah Palin. Watch our completely made up recreation of those rehearsals (with exclusive pics!) in the slideshow below:

http://www.236.com/news/2008/10/01/debate_training_biden_learns_w_1_9211...

I dated that beauty queen in college,

Sam, you are no beauty queen....

Woo hoo!!!

http://wwww.samsedershow.tv

clotted cream scones!

you don't get this kind of content on `Morning Joe'!

I haven't been able to access mvslive.com AT ALL. Can't imagine my place of employment would be blocking it...

sounds familiar.

like that gal that had the situation comedy.

only ditzier.

to see if they could score a baggie off of him...

goood to see him getting some air time.

Annette's got a shot!!

WOOOO HOOOOO!!!!

Now pardon me while I go back to painting my toenails - break time, yanno. ;-)

That spot was fabulous! More, More.

http://www.mogulus.com/mvsLive

No!
Obama won't go over 400.

no im's today?

Happe Talk

no chat no nada! But great screen and vid and sound strong and no waivering thus far.

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

wahoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>no chat no nada!

when I looked a couple minutes ago the chat was working.

you have to click on the "Chat" button. the comments come up on the same screen as the video. lots of comments.

Interesting that the apartment in Astoria is painted the same colors as his house in LA.

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/twofer

http://www.mogulus.com/mvsLive

You mean the Christian Civics League is wrong?

Q. What are you saying to your fellow Republicans who see this as basically economic socialism?

McCain. Well, I understand that fiscal conservatives, or those on the most fiscal conservative side, have the most concerns about it. One of the things I said to them, that when there is a crisis, that government has to stand in.

(HERE IT IS:)
We did that — step in. We did that in the savings and loan crisis, when we set up the Resolution Trust Corp. and basically bought up bad assets —

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95240063#transcript

>>How do you log into the chat?

I don't know, I am stuck at the `choose a nickname' screen...I type mine in and...then what?

hitting enter doesn't work.

well, that's that for that ...

pretty good!

but I bet it will get better.

611+

ZERO technical issues. Flawless. Good job team.

I loved it. :)

I thought it was an hour show.

Great 40 minutes, though.

Thanks for the show! Great Marc rant at the end. So disappointed in Obama again if he votes for the bailout. Just need to remember that we don't vote for a perfect candidate, we vote for the best one and that's Obama by far.

so much talent in such a tiny show. keep up the good work.

Now clean your room , for the next one

I think. It froze up a few times here. I never refresh. That is bullshit IT talk like "Is your computer plugged in?" An excuse when the 'expert' is buying time because they fucked up or stalling because the just don't know.

Laet's see how things go when Marc hits the road, as early as Friday. I am also guessing they have the bells and whistles off for now to focus on the maiden voyage until they get going. There was a call-in # and a chat *edit* button on the screen. Supposedly no video podcast coming today if you believe what they say.

At least it disproved all of the sky is falling hand wringing that has been heard here from so many people. My video just came back to life.

AMY GOODMAN, HOST OF DEMOCRACY NOW!, FIRST JOURNALIST TO WIN "ALTERNATIVE NOBEL"

New York City, NY – Award-winning journalist and host of Democracy Now!
Amy Goodman is the first journalist to receive the Right Livelihood Award, widely recognized as the world's premier award for personal courage and social transformation. The annual prize, also known as the Alternative Nobel, will be awarded in the Swedish Parliament on December 8, 2008.

The Right Livelihood Award was established in 1980 to honor and support those "offering practical and exemplary answers to the most urgent challenges facing us today". Goodman has been selected for “developing an innovative model of truly independent grassroots political journalism that brings to millions of people the alternative voices that are often excluded by the mainstream media.”

Pioneering the largest public media collaboration in the country, Democracy Now! is a daily grassroots, global TV/radio/internet news hour airing on more than 750 public radio and television stations and at http://www.democracynow.org.

Goodman said, “I am deeply honored that grassroots, independent journalism and the hard work of my colleagues at Democracy Now! are being recognized in these critical times. I strongly believe that media can be a force for peace. It is the responsibility of journalists to give voice to those who have been forgotten, forsaken and beaten down by the powerful. It is the best reason I know to carry our pens, cameras and microphones out into the world. The media should be a sanctuary for dissent. It is our job to go to where the silence is.”

Goodman and two Democracy Now! producers were arrested last month at the Republican National Convention while reporting on street demonstrations.
Charges were dropped after widespread public outcry. The video of Goodman's arrest was among the most watched YouTube video's during the convention week. It has now been viewed over 860,000 times.

Amy Goodman writes a weekly syndicated column with King Features which runs in major newspapers throughout North and South America. She is co-author with her brother, journalist David Goodman, of three New York Times bestsellers: Standing Up To the Madness: Ordinary Heroes in Extraordinary Times; Static: Government Liars, Media Cheerleaders, and the People Who Fight Back; and The Exception to the Rulers: Exposing Oily Politicians, War Profiteers, and the Media That Love Them.

Goodman’s reporting on East Timor and Nigeria won the George Polk Award, the Robert F. Kennedy Prize for International Reporting, and the Alfred I. DuPont-Columbia Award. Her other awards include the first ever Communication for Peace Award presented by the World Association of Christian Communication, the Puffin/Nation Institute Award for Creative Citizenship, The Paley Center for Media “She Made It” Award, and the Gracie Award for American Women in Radio and Television Public Broadcasting. Goodman has also received awards from the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

Goodman shares the 2008 Right Livelihood Award with Krishnammal and Sankaralingam Jagannathan of India, and their organisation, Land for the Tillers’ Freedom, for their work dedicated to realising in practice the Gandhian vision of social justice and sustainable human development; Asha Hagi of Somalia “for continuing to lead at great personal risk the female participation in the peace and reconciliation process in her war-ravaged country.”; and Monika Hauser of Germany, gynaecologist and founder of medica mondiale, “for her tireless commitment to working with women who have experienced the most horrific sexualised violence in some of the most dangerous countries in the world, and campaigning for them to receive social recognition and compensation.”

For more information about the 2008 Right Livelihood Award, please visit http://www.rightlivelihood.org.

The End of Reaganism

It's not just investment banks that have fallen by the wayside in the recent carnage; it's the ideology of unregulated capitalism -- of Reaganism. And if Republicans cannot find a way to disenthrall themselves from their faith in their old gods, they may ensure that the GOP itself becomes one more casualty in the collapse of laissez faire.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/30/AR200809...

That's the kind of thinking I like to see.

The center is full of people who only get half of what they want.

We draw down in Iraq - While we build up in Afghanistan.

We give money to Wall Street - While we cut domestic spending.

We leave the Bush tax cuts alone - While we postpone health care reform.

Obama is not going to make everyone happy.

But look at the bright side.

I bet Obama can throw a hell of an inauguration party!

:)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Gallup Daily: Obama 48%, McCain 44%

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update of registered voters finds Barack Obama at 48%, and John McCain at 44%, marking a slight narrowing of the race from the eight percentage point margin Obama held earlier this week.

FLORIDA: Obama 51, McCain 47
MINNESOTA: Obama 54, McCain 43
MISSOURI: Obama 49, McCain 48
NEVADA: Obama 51, McCain 47
VIRGINIA: Obama 53, McCain 44

http://thepage.time.com/2008/10/01/more-data-shows-obama-battleground-st...

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/

(9 not 11. Got overexcited.)

Palin will debate topless.

btw: new thread.

Fri. 10/10 Gloria La Riva, Socialist candidate for President, will
speak at 7pm in Becker Communication Studies Building, #203, Univ. of
Iowa campus (across from Main Library, corner of Madison and
Washington). Her talk will address confronting voters during election
season such as the economy, the Iraq & Afghanistan Wars, immigration,
and workers' rights. Contact: Tim Gauger, frrizzo@gmail.com.

http://www.samsedershow.com/node/3879#comment-264050

Jonathan Schwarz:
Abraham Lincoln Speaks Out On Public Money And Banks
http://thismodernworld.com/4491

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Step right up - Tom Waits (MP3 - 5.2MB)
Everyone's a winner, bargains galore!

MMRules, you're welcome :)
Byeee.

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