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Last thread won't load for me on dial up..

which mrs maverick?

Mrs. Beer Fortune, or Winky Palin?

Mrs. Plagiarism Palin! Gotcha!

We were lucky enough to get the news from Seattle for two weeks-then back to Spokane/Texas...BELO Broadcasting-----so different....

Minneapolis StarTribune

DFL U.S. Senate candidate Al Franken has moved into his first solid lead over incumbent Republican Norm Coleman, according to a new Star Tribune Minnesota Poll.

For Coleman, there is little good news in the poll. The number of voters who view him unfavorably continues to grow, the number who see him favorably is falling, and his job-approval rating has slipped to 38 percent — his lowest ever in the Minnesota Poll.

The Minnesota Poll results suggest Franken may be riding the coattails of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, who has widened a lead over Republican John McCain in polls across the country. But the advertising war in the race also appears to be a factor decidedly in Franken’s favor.

The survey shows that 56 percent of poll respondents consider ads criticizing Franken to be “mostly unfair personal attacks.” Only 42 percent said the same about ads criticizing Coleman.

Free Democracy

Bush/Cheney ....free pass.

Free Democracy

Too sad, too true. Reality sucks the big one, eh?

Sarah, Sarah, Sarah !

I love the way Sarah has taken over this blog.

Some folks here think Sarah wasn't a great pick.

Well I'm here to tell you the right now that Sarah is the best thing to hit the Republican Party in years.

SARAH SHOW: 69,989,000 WATCH...

70,000,000 butts in the seats to watch a VP debate!

That's fantastic.

Instead of coaching Sarah, they need to be coaching McCain to be more like Sarah.

The next McCain / Obama debate should be great.

We are getting to crunch time for McCain.

McCain either exploits Obama's weak spots now, or starts to run out of time.

There's still plenty of time for another big swing in the polls, but the clock is ticking.

It only takes one key issue.

Obama is weak on a lot of issues.

But he doesn't have that glaring weakness that allows for focused attack.

This next debate will be much rougher that what we have seen up until now.

Limbaugh: Palin Kicked Biden's Butt

Friday, October 3, 2008 10:36 PM

By: Phil Brennan Article Font Size

You'd never know it if you listened to what he calls the "drive-by media," but Rush Limbaugh says Sarah Palin mopped the floor with Joe Biden during Thursday night’s debate.

Said the top talker: "Sarah Palin kicked Joe Biden's butt last night, period! They had many of you -- and I tried to warn you yesterday that she was going to be OK, that she was going to be fine and you were going to be surprised if you had bought the Katie Couric version of Sarah Palin, if you had bought the version of her that the drive-bys were trying to portray her to be."

The media, he added was self-delusional. "For the left to deceive themselves and the voters by pretending that that debate last night went any way other than Sarah Palin absolutely mopping the floor with Joe Biden, is nothing short of delusion."

Despite predictions that Palin would prove to be clueless and inexperienced, Limbaugh said Palin "came off as more experienced and qualified, personable and able to connect with people than [Barack] Obama does, and that's where she shined last night. She was knockout gorgeous. She looked good last night, charming, pleasant, likable, witty. She was on point. She did not appear contrived."

When it comes to the Alaska governor, it's the media that is clueless, Limbaugh explained. "If you are in the drive-by media or you are part of the New York-Washington media corridor, you look at somebody like Sarah Palin and she may as well be from Mars. You don't have the ability to connect with people that she connects with, and so you don't understand how that's done, and you don't like it when you see it, and you think it's too folksy and it's too pedantic and it's too simplistic and you just don't understand it. You don't understand the winks. You don't understand the ‘goldarn its’ and the ‘doggone its’ and the ‘dadgum its,’ and you don't understand this hockey. ‘What's hockey? Hockey mom? I understand soccer moms, but I don't know what a hockey mom is...'

"So this is a disconnect. The reaction to this debate that you'll find today in the media versus the reaction among real people, is just as partisan and striking as is the division in the country over the future of the country."

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Thought I would leave positive feedback,for a change,at Air America.
Told them the new Maron v Seder show was brilliant!
the email is:

feedback@airamerica.com

So it wouldn't hurt...and might help

The American Prospect

For years, liberals thought they could catch up in the media by playing by conservatives' rules. Maddow proves it's better to just change the game.

"I think I have a fear in general about whether being a pundit is a worthwhile thing to be," Rachel Maddow tells me over dinner at a Latin restaurant in lower Manhattan. It's more than the ordinary self-deprecation of someone who just got her own cable commentary show. It's an insecurity essential to the on-air style that's powered the 35-year-old's rapid rise from a wacky morning radio show in western Massachusetts to the liberal radio network Air America and now to her own prime-time show on MSNBC.

Maddow is not a Tim Russert or a Chris Matthews -- an ostensibly nonpartisan interviewer who badgers politicians and policy-makers about contradictions in their records. Nor is she a Rush Limbaugh or a Glenn Beck -- an attack dog who deals in calculated anger, bluster, and outrage. She's no mild-mannered liberal like Alan Colmes or a veteran observer like Wolf Blitzer or David Gregory. Maddow has broken the broadcasting mold. She has succeeded as an avowed liberal on television precisely because she is not a liberal version of conservatives like Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck. Unlike so many progressive media figures who sought to replicate the on-air habits of the aggressive shock jocks of the right, she stumbled upon a workable style for the left. She is liberal without apology or embarrassment, bases her authority on a deep comprehension of policy rather than the culture warrior's claim to authenticity, and does it all with a light, even slightly mocking, touch. She proves that liberals can attract viewers on television when they actually act like, well, liberals.................

The Boston Globe

With 31 days until the election, Democrat Barack Obama's road to the White House is widening, and Republican John McCain's electoral path is narrowing.

The McCain campaign's decision this week to abandon Democratic-leaning Michigan is the most obvious and dramatic sign, a major tactical retreat that limits the ways he can reach the magic number of 270 electoral votes on Nov. 4.

But McCain is in as bad or worse shape in other battleground states. Barring a dramatic change, he is on course to lose Iowa and New Mexico, both states barely won by President Bush four years ago in his narrow victory over Democrat John F. Kerry. And he and the Republican National Committee this week began pouring money into Indiana and North Carolina, reliably Republican states where the Obama campaign has made strong advances and polls indicate the candidates are roughly tied.

The Obama campaign, meanwhile, has responded this week by significantly increasing its television advertising budget in Indiana and five other states and has even spent $350,000 to air spots continuously on a satellite TV channel, a first for a presidential hopeful.

Run time: 01:35

SUNNY HAVEN RECREATIONAL PARK, INDIANA - In an unprecedented display of nudity by a presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain appeared at a rally here absolutely buck-naked.

Unnamed sources with McCain’s campaign said he is, “Just fed up, really, with Sarah Palin. It’s not one thing, it’s everything. The focus needs to be on his campaign, not her. We tried talk him out of this, but he’s ready to represent the nudist voters in this country.”

McCain said to the rally, “My friends, I am before you today without any clothes. As you can see, my colon is a bit worse for wear. Make no mistake - I’m not afraid to show you my colon. The Vietcong beat this colon out of me, and it’s been this way for about forty years. If I can stand forty years of this, you bet I’m ready to be your next president!”

She can't even win the home crowd .....

Anchorage, Alaska — In a poll conducted Thursday, Oct. 2, 2008 by Channel 2 News asked respondents who they thought won Thursday night’s vice presidential debate.

Here is the official question and results, according to the station:

Who won the vice presidential debate tonight?

Gov. Sarah Palin 39%
Sen. Joe Biden 61%

WASHINGTON - Forget turning John McCain into a political punching bag. Barack Obama wants to turn his Republican rival into a punch line.

Obama is known for his soaring oratory, but lately he has been going for the laugh track - cracking frequent jokes.

He has taken to mocking McCain for stocking his campaign with ex-lobbyists while also promising to end their their influence in Washington.

"If you think those lobbyists are working day and night to elect my opponent just to put themselves out of business, well, I've got a bridge to sell you in Alaska," Obama riffs.

"It's the Leno-Letterman effect," said University of Virginia politics sage Larry Sabato. "The public is so conditioned to think about politics as the theater of the absurd, they like it when political information is delivered sounding like a comedy routine."

Obama still mixes in his message of hope and change, with dashes of passion, but along the way he regularly reels off lines that elicits chuckles.

Analysts say Obama wants to annoy and belittle his cantankerous opponent in the eyes of voters - without drawing a backlash. "A way of really getting under McCain's skin, and prompting the kind of intemperate reaction that might cost him voters, is to make fun of him," said Hunter College Prof. Ken Sherrill.

Talking Friday to a crowd in Abington, Pa., Obama didn't simply accuse McCain of being a recent, convenient convert to tighter Wall Street regulation. He got people to laugh about it.

"Suddenly a crisis comes and the polls change, and suddenly [McCain's] out there talking like Jesse Jackson. Come on," Obama scoffed as the crowd howled.

One reason for the smiling jabs is people like McCain. Calling him a hypocrite, liar or worse could anger folks.

"The tough stuff, the nasty stuff, that's what people are offended by hearing," said Sabato.

Experts point to Hillary Clinton as a prime example. She might have bested Obama in the primary, they say, if she cast herself more like Mae West than the Iron Lady. When she accused Obama of stealing lines, she denounced him furiously: "If your candidacy is going to be about words, they should be your own."

Obama took the alternate approach when McCain cast himself as the change candidate after the GOP convention.

"I notice John McCain has been trying to say 'I'm for change, too,'" Obama said recently. "He's been grabbin' our signs, using our slogans."

"He even said the other day, I think, 'turn the page.' C'mon John. I've been sayin' that for - how long have I been saying that?" Obama quipped.

includes because it's signed already!

The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008
September 28th, 2008 by Office of the Speaker
Significant bipartisan work has built consensus around dramatic improvements to the original Bush-Paulson plan to stabilize American financial markets—including requiring a plan to ensure the taxpayer is repaid in full.

Read the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (SUBJECT TO FURTHER TECHNICAL REVISIONS) .pdf >>

CRITICAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE RESCUE PLAN
Democrats have insisted from day one on substantial changes to make the Bush-Paulson plan acceptable—protecting American taxpayers and Main Street—and these elements are included in the draft legislation under consideration.

PROTECTION FOR TAXPAYERS, REQUIRING A PLAN TO BE REPAID IN FULL

Requiring Congressional review after the first $350 billion is disbursed

Gives taxpayers a share of the profits of participating companies, or puts taxpayers first in line to recover assets if a company fails

Requires a President five years from now to submit a plan to ensure taxpayers are repaid in full, with Wall Street making up any difference

Allows the government to also purchase troubled assets from pension plans, local governments, and small banks that serve low- and middle-income families

LIMITS ON EXCESSIVE COMPENSATION FOR CEOs AND EXECUTIVES
For companies publicly auctioning over $300 million:

No multi-million dollar golden parachutes for top 5 executives after auction

No tax deduction for executive compensation over $500,000

Penalizes golden parachutes for CEOs who are fired or have run the company into the ground

For companies from which the government makes direct purchases:

No multi-million dollar golden parachutes

Limits CEO compensation that encourages unnecessary risk-taking

Recovers bonuses paid to executives who promise gains that later turn out to be false or inaccurate

STRONG INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT AND TRANSPARENCY

Four separate independent oversight entities or processes to protect the taxpayer

A strong oversight board appointed by bipartisan leaders of Congress

GAO oversight and audits at Treasury to ensure strong controls; to prevent waste, fraud, and abuse

An independent Inspector General to monitor the Treasury Secretary’s decisions

Transparency—requiring posting of transactions online

Meaningful judicial review of the Treasury Secretary’s actions

HELP TO PREVENT HOME FORECLOSURES CRIPPLING THE AMERICAN ECONOMY

The government can work with loan servicers to change the terms of mortgages (reduce principal or interest rate, lengthen time to pay back the mortgage) to reduce the 2 million projected foreclosures in the next year

Extends provision (enacted earlier in this Congress) to stop tax liability on mortgage foreclosures

Helps save small businesses that need credit by aiding small community banks hurt by the mortgage crisis—allowing these banks to deduct losses from investments in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac stocks

http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=1529

Good Morning Sederville! Here are a few more quotes from Reagan, who by the way, received social security benefits.

"Fascism was really the basis for the New Deal."
Ronald Reagan, quoted in Time, May 17, 1976

"...a faceless mass, waiting for handouts."
Ronald Reagan, 1965. (Description of Medicaid recipients.)

"Unemployment insurance is a pre-paid vacation for freeloaders."
California Governor Ronald Reagan, in the Sacramento Bee, April 28, 1966

"We were told four years ago that 17 million people went to bed hungry every night. Well, that was probably true. They were all on a diet."
Ronald Reagan, TV speech, October 27, 1964

"I never knew anything above Cs."
President Reagan, in a moment of truthfulness, describes his academic record to Barbara Walters, November 27, 1981

Central Banks From Ottawa to Brasilia Add Liquidity to Ease Credit Crunch Central banks from Ottawa to Brasilia are injecting cash into their economies in a bid to contain the spread of the U.S. credit crisis.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=ac6SNK3etYHk&refer=n...

Payrolls Plunge in Sign Economy May Enter Worst Recession Since 1981-1982 The U.S. may be heading for its worst recession in at least a quarter century as the credit crisis forces employers across the country to cut workers and ratchet back spending.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aOdse4wKsTok&refer=n...

Treasury to Hire Asset Management Firms to Jumpstart Rescue

By Rebecca Christie and Robert Schmidt

Oct. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is hiring as many as 10 asset-management companies to join the lawyers and bankers he is recruiting to kickstart the government's new $700 billion bank-rescue program.

The Treasury began implementing the plan within an hour of Congress yesterday giving Paulson the powers he sought to combat the U.S. financial crisis. Paulson is seeking to assemble a team to determine which toxic securities to target, how to value them and how to buy them. BlackRock Inc., Pacific Investment Management Co. and Legg Mason Inc. are seeking to become money managers for the program, people familiar with the matter said.

``This is something that, for a typical company, would take no less than five years,'' said Lynn Turner, a former chief accountant at the Securities and Exchange Commission. ``Anyone who thinks they can do this in two weeks is insane.''

Ed Forst, the former Goldman Sachs Group Inc. executive Paulson hired to head the transition team, started work last week and is charged with helping establish the new Office of Financial Stability.

``Paulson did not want to lose precious days waiting,'' said Howard Glaser, a former chief legal adviser of the Department of Housing and Urban Development.

Warren Buffett, the billionaire who spent $8 billion in the past two weeks to buy stakes in General Electric Co. and Goldman Sachs Group Inc., has also offered his views.

Buffett's Counsel

``Any time I can be of help to the government, in terms of giving advice -- I've given a little advice, actually,'' Buffett said in an interview from San Diego with PBS's Charlie Rose on Oct. 1

Lobbyists say the Treasury wants to run the program as much as possible with outside contractors. Career Treasury staff would handle the administrative tasks.

While the department will bypass some government contracting rules, as the legislation allows, it says it plans to put a formal and transparent process in place to hire the private-sector help. The department may also tap the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. to manage the mortgage portfolio.

``We've been doing a lot of work getting ready for this,'' Paulson told reporters yesterday after the House voted. ``We're going to be going out and lining up advisers from the private sector.'' President George W. Bush signed the measure shortly after Paulson spoke.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aVVOrzOIBedo&refer=n...

He might take over as the all time loser of the Republicans in a Presidential race ....

RCP Electoral Count

No Toss Up States 353 185 Obama +168

Battleground States Obama 49.0 McCain 44.6 Spread Obama +4.4

Colorado Ohio 48.0 46.0 Obama +2.0

Florida 48.6 45.6 Obama +3.0

Pennsylvania 49.9 42.0 Obama +7.9

Missouri 46.8 48.5 McCain +1.7

Virginia 49.0 46.6 Obama +2.4

Despite Sarah Palin's stunning performance in Thursday night's VP Debates, despite that fleeting sense of optimism and the re-energizing of the Republican base, the Obama train is barely delayed on its seemingly inevitable rush to the White House.....

Submitted by Kevin © on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 9:09am.
He might take over as the all time loser of the Republicans in a Presidential race ....

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Nothing would please me more than to see- the Emperor McCain-finally stripped of his invisible robe.

A woman who described herself as a Republican- said that Michelle Obama was born in Iran.

I kid you not!

Had QVC as the picture but c-span as the sound. Good ole comcast scewed up. So I called. evidently they had alot of complaints. Don't know how that happened.

Franken bypasses Coleman as voters react to attack ads

DFL U.S. Senate candidate Al Franken has moved into his first solid lead over incumbent Republican Norm Coleman, according to a new Star Tribune Minnesota Poll.

For Coleman, there is little good news in the poll. The number of voters who view him unfavorably continues to grow, the number who see him favorably is falling, and his job-approval rating has slipped to 38 percent — his lowest ever in the Minnesota Poll.

The Minnesota Poll results suggest Franken may be riding the coattails of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, who has widened a lead over Republican John McCain in polls across the country. But the advertising war in the race also appears to be a factor decidedly in Franken’s favor.

The survey shows that 56 percent of poll respondents consider ads criticizing Franken to be “mostly unfair personal attacks.” Only 42 percent said the same about ads criticizing Coleman.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/30451119.html?elr=KA...

On Now .... http://thisishell.com/

This is Hell! broadcasts live this Saturday beginning at 9 AM (US central). You can also hear us live online via WNUR's web site (http://www.wnur.org) under the heading, "Listen Online."

Our guests this Saturday will be:

* live from Cochabamba, the Democracy Center's Jim Shultz explains what the hell is going on in the near civil war in Bolivia. You can read Jim's blog by visiting http://www.democracyctr.org/blog/. The Democracy Center "works globally to advance social justice through investigation and reporting, training citizens in public advocacy, and leading international citizen campaigns."

* journalist and author Nomi Prins most recent writng includes the articles, "Will the Government Bailout Work?," "The $700 Billion Bailout Plan's Fine Print" and "Why the Bailout Sells America Short." Nomi is a Senior Fellow at Demos, a non-partisan public policy research and advocacy organization. She is the author of 2004's "Other People’s Money: The Corporate Mugging of America" (The New Press), which was chosen as a Best Book of 2004 by The Economist, Barron's and The Library Journal. She also wrote 2006's "Jacked: How 'Conservatives' are Picking your Pocket (whether you voted for them or not)" (Polipoint Press). Nomi worked on Wall Street as a managing director at Goldman Sachs, and ran the international analytics group at Bear Stearns in London.

* live from London, writer, journalist and filmmaker Tariq Ali most recent writing includes, "Casualties of another war," "The American War Moves to Pakistan: Bush's War Widens Dangerously" and "The Godfather as President: Zardari and Pakistan." Tariq is a regular writer for The Nation, The Guardian and the London Review of Books. He is the editor of The New Left Review. He is the author of over a dozen books including the just released, "The Duel: Pakistan on the Flight of American Power" (Scribner).

* author Dave Zirin writes the column 'The Edge of Sports' at http://www.edgeofsports.com and is a regular contributor to SI.com, The Nation, SLAM and the Los Angeles Times. Dave's new book is "A People's History of Sports in the United States" (The New Press).

* Chalmers Johnson wrote the TomDispatch piece, "We Have the Money: If Only We Didn't Waste It on the Defense Budget." Chalmers is the president of the Japan Policy Research Institute and professor emeritus at the University of California, San Diego. Chalmers wrote the trilogy that includes, "Nemesis: The Crisis of the American Republic," (Metropolitan Books) "Blowback: The Costs and Consequences of American Empire" (Metropolitan Books) and "The Sorrows of Empire: Militarism, Secrecy, and the End of the Republic" (Metropolitan Books).

A.I.G. Uses $61 Billion of Fed Loan

The American International Group said on Friday that it had already drawn down $61 billion of the $85 billion emergency bridge loan it received from the Federal Reserve two weeks ago, an announcement that startled credit ratings agencies.

The emergency loan was supposed to buy the company time to sell its troubled assets in an orderly manner. But the sell-off has not yet begun, and now the insurer faces the additional pressure of trying to sell the businesses at a time when potential buyers are having trouble borrowing money.

...

It was a series of downgrades in A.I.G.’s credit ratings in mid-September that set off certain contractual provisions requiring the insurer to post billions of dollars of collateral with its trading partners, a catastrophic event that led to the huge federal bailout.

Since then, A.I.G. has not released any information about whether additional ratings downgrades would lead to any additional collateral calls.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/business/04insure.html?ref=business

The pessimism in the GOP ranks reflects a striking shift in momentum in the four weeks since the Republican National Convention, when Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin made her national debut and rallied conservatives, helping to fuel the perception that longer-shot Democratic targets were drifting out of reach.

"If you turn the clock back two or two and half weeks, you could make a plausible argument that if a couple of things go our way we will lose three to four Senate races," said one Republican strategist. "Now we will lose six to eight." Polling in most Senate races over the past 14 days has shown a five-point decline for the Republican candidate, the strategist said.
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The picture in the House is similar. The generic ballot test -- a traditional measure of broad voter attitudes -- has also moved decisively in Democrats' direction in recent days. The latest NBC-Wall Street Journal and Associated Press polls showed voters favoring a generic Democratic candidate for Congress over a generic Republican by 13 points, while a recent Time magazine poll gave Democrats a 46 percent to 36 percent edge.

GOP operatives said the party's declining fortunes are rooted in a series of events over the past two weeks, including McCain's decision to suspend his campaign in order to help broker a deal on the rescue plan and Republican opposition that doomed the bill in a House vote on Monday. Those incidents helped reinforce voter impressions that Washington is broken and that Republicans bear the brunt of the blame, the party insiders said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/03/AR200810...

With No Plan B, House Reluctantly Passes Politically Risky Measure

Henry M. Paulson Jr. was in his corner office in the Treasury Department on Monday afternoon, too nervous to turn on his television, when his chief of staff poked his head into the Treasury secretary's office to tell him the stunning news playing out on Capitol Hill: The House had just defeated the Wall Street rescue plan that Paulson had helped craft.

Within minutes, Paulson was on his way across the street to the White House, his senior staff hustling to keep up, for a meeting in the Roosevelt Room with the administration's economic team. There was no time for pleasantries, and before everyone had taken their seats, the former Goldman Sachs chief began firing off options.

Should they push for an immediate vote in the Senate? Should the Democratic leaders be flashed a green light to put together a bill that they could pass on their own, without Republicans? Should they make small changes to win over the dozen or so votes they would need on a second try in the House?

Forty-five minutes into the meeting, they were joined by President Bush, who asked the one question no one had considered: If his plan is not working, what is Plan B?

Paulson looked at his boss, then delivered the answer he did not want to hear: There is no Plan B.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/03/AR200810...

Newspapers get complaints for DVD ad on Muslims

By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Business Writer
Sat Oct 4, 3:23 AM ET
NEW YORK - Newspapers that carried an advertising supplement in recent weeks containing a DVD critical of radical Muslims have faced complaints from readers and questions about whether newspapers should offer a platform to everyone willing to pay for distribution. Although a few papers refused to carry the DVD, about 70 including The New York Times distributed it on the grounds that rejecting it would violate the sponsor's right to free speech. The decision generated letters, cancellations and even a protest.

The Clarion Fund, a nonprofit founded in 2006 to address "the most urgent threat of radical Islam," spent millions of dollars distributing the DVDs mostly in battleground election states. That targeting led to further outcry about the group's motives. "This is definitely the most feedback that I've gotten to an ad," said Ted Vaden, public editor for The News & Observer in Raleigh, N.C. "It's among the heaviest reaction I've gotten to anything. The great majority of the reaction was negative."

Vaden said the paper received about 500 e-mail and phone messages and had some 50 cancellations. He said the paper may have sparked some of the complaints by writing a front-page story calling attention to "Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West," the DVD insert that critics have denounced as anti-Muslim propaganda.

- snip -

Newspapers generally insist on giving a platform to a variety of viewpoints, but readers who complained were largely critical. "I cannot believe that I was sent the hate-inflaming, fear-mongering video disk `Obsession' in my newspaper!" Margaret Lewis of Durham, N.C., wrote to The News & Observer. "What will you enclose next? KKK robes?"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081004/ap_on_re_us/newspapers_islam_dvd

I was thinking this was a bit harsh,
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...

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Jamesbennett

Kucinich "gets it." [ John Nichols - the nation ]

That was clear in the speech he delivered during Friday morning's House debate on the curent version of Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson's Wall Street bailout bill:

"We have come a great distance in seventy-five years; from the New Deal to the Raw Deal, from having nothing to fear but fear itself, to being afraid of everything. We traded democracy's warm heart containing the ideals of faith, fairness and frugality, for the greedy, cold calculations of the Dow Jones ticker. The New Deal saved free market capitalism with jobs and regulation; now both sink in the swamp of speculation, manipulation and capitulation.
The Golden Rule of 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you,' is submerged by the rule of gold, 'do unto others before they do unto you.'
Some people will ask of this Congress, what were we thinking? Why did we give $700 billion bailout to Wall Street without fixing what caused the problem in the first place? Why did we rig the free markets for security fraudsters? Why didn't we explore alternatives to let Wall Street solve its own problems? Why didn't we have money save millions of homeowners, create millions of jobs, and a green economy? Why didn't we stop the speculators? Why wasn't there accountability? Why didn't we take time to make an intelligent decision?

~`~`~`~`~`~
Jamesbennett

Happe Talk

Lawmakers question her independence in the probe of the firings of nine U.S. attorneys.

By Larry Margasak
Associated Press

WASHINGTON - ... Rep. Linda T. Sanchez (D., Calif.), who has led the House Judiciary Committee's investigation into the firing of nine prosecutors nearly two years ago, said the Justice Department might interfere with the career prosecutor who will conduct the probe.

Nora Dannehy - the acting U.S. attorney in Connecticut and a white-collar-crime specialist - was named this week by Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey to continue an inquiry that so far has found incompetent, unethical and possibly criminal conduct surrounding the firings ...

Sanchez raised her concerns as Glenn Fine, the Justice Department's inspector general, was preparing to review the 358-page report documenting the politically inspired firings of at least four of the nine prosecutors ...

Asked by Rep. Robert C. Scott (D., Va.) whether the attorney general could overrule the prosecutor, Fine said, "I will have to leave that for another day." ...

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/20081004_Democrats_leery_of_pros...

While fat cats at the bankrupted Lehman Brothers made multimillion-dollar salaries driving the company into the ground, lower-level employees have been told their severance packages have just been yanked.

Ann Harvey, 45, of Staten Island, said she received a letter in the mail Wednesday informing her that the company had cut her off as of yesterday.

"This is terrible," she said. "I could lose my home. I can't pay my mortgage while I'm on unemployment."

Harvey, who worked as a telecommunications analyst for Lehman Brothers for 16 years, was let go in March. ...

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10042008/news/regionalnews/lehman_staff_gets...

And this is just the start...

Submitted by Alice on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 11:04pm.
You are such a narc! :)

-Charles Bronson diabolically crossed w/W.C. Fields?-

And a twisted imagination to boot!
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It isn't dr's twisted imagination at work. It's dr's talent for memorizing odd pieces of mostly worthless information.

Long ago, during a previous "we should post our photos" discussion on the blog, I described myself as a cross between Charles Bronson and W.C. Fields.

(I hope he sends me a pallet of canned salmon. It could be all I'll have in the larder after my investments have finished tanking.)

soft rain here,

birds coming in waves,

honkers hooting as they fly over.

McCain's pullout has GOP worried - Mich. Republicans on ballot could be affected

McCain's pullout has GOP worried
Mich. Republicans on ballot could be affected
BY CHRIS CHRISTOFF • FREE PRESS LANSING BUREAU CHIEF • OCTOBER 4, 2008

Michigan Republicans scrambled Friday to stanch potential damage to their election chances after Sen. John McCain's sudden decision to halt his presidential campaign, including TV advertising, in Michigan.

Some hoped McCain would resume campaigning in the state soon.

Others were downright mad.

"I don't know what McCain was thinking," fumed Oakland County Executive L. Brooks Patterson, a leading state Republican. "He's a general who left the battlefield in the middle of the fight. "I'm disappointed in his behavior; he's thrown a lot of good Republican candidates under the bus."

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081004/NEWS15/81004032...

Alaska Supreme Court takes up 'Troopergate' case - AP

"ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — The Alaska Supreme Court will decide whether to block the findings of an abuse-of-power investigation due to be released next week that could be potentially damaging to Gov. Sarah Palin's vice presidential candidacy.

The court accepted an emergency appeal late Friday filed by six Alaska lawmakers who claim the investigation is being manipulated to hurt Palin before Election Day on Nov. 4. The court scheduled oral arguments for Wednesday on whether to suppress the probe's findings." .......

"There's been no time in history that a court has suppressed the outcome of a legislative investigation," Maassen said......

"Michalski also threw out a lawsuit filed by Palin aides seeking to dismiss subpoenas compelling their testimony in the investigation. The aides had argued that the subpoenas should not be honored because they shouldn't have been issued."....

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jOTk11gvqDAgD0cY3i4WjI_2YOxwD93JJ9I80

these are some very worried people.....

wonder if he admits to himself that this is all in aid of "crashing" the US economy?

dam! i hate a rigged card game.

Never before perhaps has such a tiny gesture assumed such electoral importance as Sarah Palin's wink.

Because while, as the cliche has it, the eyes are the window of the soul, Palin's use of her eyes was a window to the views of women in one of the most hotly contested places in this election.

Palin's eyelash batting got under way from the opening moments of Thursday's contest against Joe Biden - and so did the parsing of its significance at a debate-watching party in Florida.

"She is trying to act like a southern belle. She is not acting like someone who could be president of the United States and John McCain is one heart attack away," said Priscilla Glascock, a 26-year-old nurse who is supporting Barack Obama. "The men are going to love it," she sneered.

(snip)

But for the host Kit Pepper, 52, a member of the non-partisan League of Women Voters, Palin's winking was an affront to the years she spent trying to build up her own political consultancy firm in a male-dominated world.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/04/uselections2008.sarahpalin

In an apparent violation of federal regulations, the State Department has outsourced to private contractors the responsibility to investigate possible crimes committed by security contractors in Iraq.

Earlier this year, the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security hired the private firm U.S. Investigations Services (USIS) to fill positions in the newly created Force Investigation Unit (FIU) that investigates potential misuses of force against civilians by U.S. security contractors. The contract investigators have been in Iraq since this summer.

The FIU was created in the wake of last year's deadly shooting in Baghdad's Nisoor Square, when 17 Iraqi civilians allegedly were killed by security personnel employed by Blackwater Worldwide who were guarding a State Department convoy. The case sparked widespread outrage and prompted calls for greater oversight of security contractors in Iraq. ...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5951683&page=1

Well well well, another prominent republican endorsement "outcome"(ha ha ha wardog!) for Obama:
_________________________________________________________________

Pro-Obama Catholic predicts 'very positive' ties with Vatican

By JOHN L. ALLEN JR. - Posted on Oct 1, 2008

Perhaps the most prominent Catholic backer of the presidential aspirations of Barak Obama today predicted warm U.S./Vatican relations under an Obama administration, arguing that it would enable new partnerships built around the church’s social teachings.

Douglas Kmiec, former legal counsel for Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, also said that while he has given “no thought” to the prospect of serving as Obama’s ambassador to the Vatican, he would “never rule anything out.”

Kmiec, a law professor at Pepperdine, is author of Can a Catholic Support Him? Asking the Big Question about Barack Obama, in which he argues that the pro-life teachings of the church can be reconciled with voting for Obama despite the Democratic candidate's pro-choice stance. Kmiec spoke this morning to reporters in a conference called organized by the “Matthew 25 Network,” a coalition of Christian groups that has endorsed Obama.

Relations with the United States are a diplomatic priority in the Vatican, and some analysts have speculated that an Obama victory would create new tensions between Rome and Washington because of differences over the “life issues,” above all abortion. Kmiec, however, offered a different forecast.

“An Obama presidency would open the door to what is frequently called the best-kept secret of the Catholic church, which is the balance of its social teaching,” Kmiec said. He argued that many of the Vatican’s social concerns are broadly congruent with the likely priorities of an Obama administration, including health care, a living wage, economic policies that promote the well-being of families, and environmental protection.

Kmiec also pointed to a broad meeting of minds between Obama and the Vatican over the war in Iraq.

“The mindset that took us to war is not his,” Kmiec said. “He believes that our greatest strength as a country comes not just from military defense but international diplomacy, for the kind of understanding which the Vatican has repeatedly asked America to have of other cultures and other religions.”

For those reasons, Kmiec predicted, “relations between Benedict XVI and the Holy See under an Obama administration would be very, very positive.”

Given Kmiec’s improbable emergence as a pro-life Republican making a Catholic case for Obama, some handicappers have speculated that, should the Democrats prevail, Kmiec would be a logical choice to represent the new administration to the Vatican. Ironically, Kmiec began the ’08 election season as an advisor to the Mitt Romney campaign alongside the current U.S. Ambassador to the Vatican, Mary Ann Glendon, who at the time was still serving as a law professor at Harvard...

STORY CONTINUES:

http://ncrcafe.org/node/2138

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Time for a little fun: Saturday Night Live to
include sketch on the vice presidential debate

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well-placed sources told TMZ that Queen Latifah is getting in the middle of the Sarah Palin/Joe Biden VP debate by portraying the moderator, PBS journalist Gwen Ifill, on "SNL" tonight. And, of course, Tina Fey will be back.

http://www.tmz.com/2008/10/03/queen-laitfah-set-to-grill-sarah-palin/

Palin repeated Bush's 2000 talking points, nearly word for word

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Did Palin's debate talking points sound familiar? The zingers, cliches and talking points were nearly the same as Bush's back in 2000.

Watch the video here:

http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us#

And thanks again for your encouragement last night ToniD, that's what I need. I firmly believe in encouraging the good in People rather than pointing out the flaws. :)

Thank You, you are great.

perhaps this was mentioned earlier but if not:

Exit polls raising concerns this year for U.S. television networks

it was in this mornings paper from the ap, the google doesn't have that one but one from canada (hmmm).

Exit polls frequently overstated Obama's vote during the primaries by as much as three percentage points.

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if its close, here's the excuse for a 3pt handicap for mcbush.

http://thinkprogress.org/

"Mainstream Media Stand To Receive $1.44 Billion From McCain’s Tax Cuts

Prior to and following the vice-presidential debates, conservatives on Fox News purported that the “mainstream media” has a preference for an Obama presidency. Bill Kristol, Kirsten Powers, and Jeffrey Goldberg all agreed in the “obvious fact” of the “transparent agenda” of liberal media bias. Watch it:

These claims fly in the face of reality. The multinational corporations that run the mainstream media — GE (NBC), Time Warner (CNN), Walt Disney (ABC), News Corporation (FOX), and Viacom (CBS) — stand to benefit hugely under a McCain presidency. The centerpiece of Sen. McCain’s economic plan — actually, the whole plan — is large tax cuts for corporations. It would deliver $1.44 billion in tax cuts to the five largest media companies, according to an analysis by the Center for American Progress Action Fund.

These giveaways are just one part of McCain’s doubling of the Bush tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy which would create the largest deficits in 25 years and drive the United States into the deepest deficits since World War II. McCain and Palin have promised that the $700 billion bailout would not threaten these tax cuts."

I think you love to cook. And if you love what you are doing, you'll be good at it.

Let us know how you progress. You'll have to unlearn a few things and relearn the right way. I did with my dad's tutelage.

>>dam! i hate a rigged card game.

this is more like a rigged game of Russian roulette!

it's A RIGGED card game.

those studios should be the center of month long protest and traffic disruptions.

this is the best disguised war on the US populace that's ever been conceived.

and nearly everyone has taken in by the scam.

have you bolted the fish stand to the wall yet?

The dumbing down of the GOP
Why aren't more conservatives disgusted that their party nominated a person devoid of qualifications for the vice presidency (again)?

By Joe Conason

There was a time when conservatives lamented the dumbing down of American culture. Preservation of basic standards in schools and workplaces compelled them -- or so they said -- to resist affirmative action for women and minorities. Qualifications mattered; merit mattered; and demagogic appeals for leveling were to be left to the Democrats.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2008/10/04/dumb/

http://www.mydd.com/

by Todd Beeton, Sat Oct 04, 2008 at 01:15:26 AM EST

This was an instant classic from Keith tonight on Countdown.

Exit polls raising concerns this year for U.S. television networks

it was in this mornings paper from the ap, the google doesn't have that one but one from canada (hmmm).

Exit polls frequently overstated Obama's vote during the primaries by as much as three percentage points.

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To be honest with you, I don't think the media should announce any exit polls until after everyone in the country has voted.

I don't think they should be allowed to announce thier poll results until after the election is finished altogether.

If it's close, the parties are going to look for a way to come up with the extra votes in a particular area.

And if voters haven't voted, and one side is winning, that voter may change his vote.

Submitted by toniD on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 1:06pm.
I think you love to cook. And if you love what you are doing, you'll be good at it.
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Everyone whom I have known who was employed to prepare meals at every level of the art (including people who were good friends before they were employed to cook) was batshit crazy.

Retail kitchen work is a grueling (pun intended), high-pressure task that seems to be followed after the shift by ingestion of mass quantities of various mind-altering albeit recreational substances.

I don't know how this might factor into your plans, Bob? It is merely an observation that many people share with me.

Sometimes "batshit crazy" is a good thing. Other times, not so much. (Like, for instance, after the restaurant has closed and the kitchen staff retires to the also-closed bar to drink themselves down from ten hours of cocaine mania and then decide to do a few bumps to help them drive home before the sun comes up.)

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If War Dog "loves" how we are commenting on Sarah Palin, just look at what the White Guys at Free Republic have whole entire rooms dedicated to ..

-Guns
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Obsessing over your penises much, Freepers?

It Goes Way Back
From TPM Reader PM ...

Speaking of McCain's temper, does anybody remember the whole 2006 ethics reform matter. I have been thinking about this for days, ever since the first debate. I didn't remember all the details at first, only that McCain had responded to a cordial, inoffensive letter from Obama with some unhinged rant. At the time Obama's star was definitely rising and I remember thinking this old guy is mad as hell that he is being shown-up by this "young upstart". Perhaps it was even more calculated than that. Certainly in 2006 McCain already had this election in mind and the word presidential was being applied to Senator Obama. I felt at the time it was a preemptive smear, trying to knock Obama down a few pegs before he became too much of a threat. Thank God for Google, a search for "Obama McCain letters" brought up this:

Link

I didn't remember Obama's reply but upon reading it all I could think was how consistent it was with the sort of campaign he has run. Unfortunately it would seem McCain has been consistent as well.

Check out the link and relive the early days, when the bile was just beginning to rise.

It so happens I do remember this. And very well actually. I remember blogging about it at the time.

This was McCain's response to Obama's pretty anodyne letter ...

I'm embarrassed to admit that after all these years in politics, I failed to interpret your previous assurances as typical rhetorical gloss routinely used in politics to make self-interested partisan posturing appear more noble. I understand how important the opportunity to lead your party's efforts to exploit this issue must seem to a freshman senator, and I hold no hard feelings over your earlier disingenuousness.

You can really see the kernel of this campaign's psychodrama (in more than one sense of the word) in this first exchange. Here from February 2006 are some more thoughts I had then about what was going on.

--Josh Marshall

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/221895.php

If they IM'd: Sarah Palin and Team McCain

Sarah Palin made quite a comeback at the debate last night, leaping gracefully over the three-inch-tall hurdle of expectations she had set for herself. There had to have been quite a bit of celebrating going on over at Team Mccain. Though if John and Steve Schmidt were busy elsewhere they probably had to hold the party over IM...

SJ...did you watch the Slacker Uprising movie?

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-There Is Plenty Of Time To Ruminate While At Sea
Submitted by Crank Bait on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 11:56am.-

Ah, I see..I vaguely remember that now...
[*concentrates on combining Bronson and Fields*]
Hmm....

what about instant gratification? can we open and close the polls on the west coast 3 hours earlier?

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you raise some valid points, but i have to believe that independent of what the msm is doing that each of the political parties is doing their own exit polling throughout the day to guage whether they need to take extraordinary action.

>>can we open and close the polls on the west coast 3 hours earlier?

are you serious?

you want the polls to open at 4 am and close at 4 pm? (I'm guessing on the hours...)

you really don't think that will effect how many people can vote?

Do I detect a certain east coast bias? It'd be just as easy to delay the voting on the east coast by 3 hours...
maybe we could split the difference? you move your's up an hour and a half, we'll move ours back an hour and a half.

or better yet, let's just leave the whole thing alone and put a moratorium on releasing the polling data until after ALL the polls have closed?

Love those secret IMs, Chubby

"http://punditkitchen.com/2008/10/04/political-pictures-sarah-palin-debate-jeopardy/"

How does one post an image again?

The Technical Judge for our election. He's the judge that takes care of delivering the votes to the election commission and is like a head judge. I've worked with him before and he's a Dem, which is good.

This year I will be a judge in my own presinct and in the meeting room of my own complex. Very convenient for me. I can walk. That's good because the hours are horrible. 5 AM to 8 PM. And there is only one precinct in the room this time.

We are being warned to expect a huge amount of voters this year. I assumed we would. I think it will be an interesting day. Of course we can't have any access to radio or TV. I wonder if I can bring a Lap Top?

img src="web address"

and of course that is surrounded by the carrots, <, and it's mate .

to be blog friendly the width of the image should not be larger than 400 pixel. that is done by adding width=400 after the img src="web address" and inside of the closing carrot.

er... still not there, Chubby. how many carrots?

>>Love those secret IMs, Chubby

if you didn't see Sarah's vblogs I strongy recommend them!

http://www.236.com/video/2008/sarah_palin_vlog_katie_couric_1_9206.php

http://www.236.com/video/2008/sarah_palin_vlog_9214.php

http://www.236.com/video/2008/sarah_palin_vlog_3_the_economy_9239.php

http://www.236.com/video/2008/sarah_palin_vlog_4_the_big_day_9262.php

http://www.236.com/video/2008/sarah_palin_vlog_5_postdebate_9308.php

23/6 Presents: The BEST of Sarah Palin CD

For our collection of Palin gaffes, check out the Sarah Palin Video Library.

>>er... still not there, Chubby. how many carrots?

one on each side.

btw, the `mate' I mentioned is `>' I did not list them together because if there are both of them in the correct order, they and anything between tham will not appear on the page. but, backwards they are `>' and `<'

but that might not be the problem.

you can't just use the page that a picture is on for the address.

I have found that by right clicking on the image and choosing `copy image location' (in firefox, opera...I'm not sure if IE does this yet) on the picture on a web page you will get the location you'll be able to embed. Some times you can just click on the picture you want and it, and only it, will come up. this is the same address you'd get by right click `copy image address'

did that make sense? If not, I'll try again.

a mistake I often make is using `+' instead of `='

sounds good.

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i had actually written a much longer response but the site hiccuped right when i clicked on the post and of course i never remember to select all and copy before hitting the post...

McCain Plans Fiercer Strategy Against Obama

Sen. John McCain and his Republican allies are readying a newly aggressive assault on Sen. Barack Obama's character, believing that to win in November they must shift the conversation back to questions about the Democrat's judgment, honesty and personal associations, several top Republicans said.

Just finally watched the VP debate. Boy what a joke. Palin, I hate to say this, but IMHO; Borderline airhead/yes Woman........

anyway this is what I wanted to post, I have no watched it yet but it looks good.

BTW how's it going Jimmer?

*********************************** ALICE you should dig this. :)

The Fourth World War

Directed by Rick Rowley. With Suheir Hammad

4th World War - taken from a speech by Marcos calling the war against globalization the 4th World War - is a brief, documentary of radical resistance to global capitalism

Despite the titanic struggles of dispossessed peoples around the world, the wealth of nations continues to reside in fewer and fewer hands. The economies of poor countries collapse under vicious IMF policies, and capitalism's global 'clubs' thrive ever and ever upward. Meanwhile, people keep struggling, ultimately downward.

Video

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20153.htm

but it sure was nice watching Palin kick Biden's ass the other night...just want you to know that i cherished every moment of that thumping

>>i had actually written a much longer response but the site hiccuped right when i clicked on the post and of course i never remember to select all and copy before hitting the post...

have you tried backing up to the previous page?

that usually will have your post intact.

in a word no. never thought about it.

guess we'll see what the fear quotient is today. the funny thing is that if palin came to one of our games all she would hear is people saying what a mess the republicans have made of the country.

>>I know im a little late

LOL!!!

yeah, that's what happened.

she refused to answer the questions asked!

typical power mad republican....refusing to answer.

Yeah, it doesn't matter if everything she spewed was inaccurate or lies...

Y'don't win the debate in the fact checking, afterwards, eh?

And 'winking' at the camera three times?

Does she think she's gaining sexual preference from the men who only think with their groins?

She is NOTHING but a prop/joke put up by a self-loathing party, knowing they're gonna get creamed in the election (read: not even close) so they at least can say they've caught up with the Democratic Party; in their support for women in politics.

Purely political move, designed to fail.

??

how many carrots total... like 2, or 4? Sorry you have to be extremely clear because I'm literal.

I know im a little late
Submitted by celticman on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 3:10pm.

"The premise is that it is a story of an alien culture where the philosopher-mathematicians are set aside and isolated from the general population, living in monastery-like "concents" where they live a life focused on ritual and contemplation of their work, undistracted by the outside world of saeculars or even the interests of the applied science and technology class, the itas."

>>how many carrots total.

2

http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_IMG.asp

ya

was pretty good!

mike knows how to film.

considering that those kids are

being sold down the river by the greedheads bigtime,

i can see why they're getting reggied and ready to kick some serious vote ass.

That Newcastle match last week was embarrassing.

But the Houston vs. Mexico CONCAF match was interesting. Who needs defense?! 4-4 tie.

RIP Paul and my condolences to Joanne. Beautiful song to a beautiful lady and to a love that is eternal. The good always die too too young. Thanks for all the good that you did in life. Wish that your good generous humanity could have ruled the world instead of the dark evil that now engulfs and infects us from the deep greedy reaganomic canyons of Wall Street and Washington DC...

"Joanne" by Michael Nesmith

Response to Celticman:

Submitted by celticman on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 3:10pm.
but it sure was nice watching Palin kick Biden's ass the other night...just want you to know that i cherished every moment of that thumping

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Submitted by celticman on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 3:10pm.
but it sure was nice watching Palin kick Biden's ass the other night...just want you to know that i cherished every moment of that thumping

“I can see Canada from the upstairs bathroom window if I stand on my tiptoes and squint,” said 2009 Senior Class President Elizabeth Picard. “This gives me foreign policy experience. And, I’m class president, so that gives me executive privilege. Plus, I was almost in the Model UN. I wasn't in the Model UN but I could have been if I hadn't had a conflict with band; we had an away game.”

goodun BB'ers!

love ya )

whether it has anything to do with the subject or not, = a thumping according to celticm.

By that definition, I just thumped him three times. Hurray for me! [wink wink]

>>i cherished every moment of that thumping

yeah, you and Rich Lowry...jerking off to Sarah during the debate.

forget the dozens of inaccuracies she spewed...she winked at me!

http://brilliantatbreakfast.blogspot.com/2008/10/note-to-americas-men-if...

'm sure I'm not the only male in America who, when Palin dropped her first wink, sat up a little straighter on the couch and said, "Hey, I think she just winked at me." And her smile. By the end, when she clearly knew she was doing well, it was so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing. It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America. This is a quality that can't be learned; it's either something you have or you don't, and man, she's got it.

Much of the risk facing the world economic system and financial markets is rooted in politics, which reduces the predictability of future trends even further. There are international tensions, between the United States and Iran, between Israel and various Muslim neighbors and non-state militias. There are additional tensions, between the United States and Russia, the U.S. and Venezuela, and the Iraq war. There are gathering domestic political storms around the world, from China and Pakistan to Russia, various Latin American countries, throughout the Middle East, and in the United States and Europe. Any one of these problems, or any combination of them, could dramatically worsen economic prospects and financial market instability quickly. - CPM Group

There won't be any confidence in the system until we purge the criminals out of the White House. President McCain = Depression.

could you please type out a sample, using [ ] in place of carrots? the tutorial page is gibberish to me.

like [img src="image addy"]

or whatever

<img src="http://address_to_your_picture.jpg" />

to tweak height or width to fit:

<img src="http://address_to_your_picture.jpg" width="200"/>

You can also use height="xxx", but one will usually do the trick.

Always test with Preview before you post

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[img src="location of an image" width=400]

like:

[img src="http://www.oosah.com/actions/view/image.php?image_id=1353856&size_id=9" width=400]

becomes:

>>picture.jpg" />

forward slash is not needed.

..not answering the question that was asked, answering it wrong and winking like a hooker in a really bad truck stop.

The woman is self-deluded idiot. You'd have to be one yourself to think otherwise.

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guys... one of you has a /> thingy at the end and the other doesn't. Will both ways work?

I'll try each and find out.

I see a small blue box with a question mark in it for my effort.

try2

What are you CB, some kind of slashist?

http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_IMG.asp begs to differ.

I bet you don't put washers on bolts either!

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/ my ass! ;-)
<img src="http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/political-pictures-sarah-palin-debate-jeopardy.jpg" width="25" />

Thanks maggiesboy!

now I'm going to try Chubby's directions..

[img src="http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/political-pictures-sarah-palin-empty-chair-gotcha-question.jpg" width=400]

FAIL!

back to the first way:

HTML without rules is like the Republican Philosophy of governing, "If you don't like it, just leave it out."

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Frackin' A!

I don't use the slashes. it may make a difference depending on the browser?

second way comes out as:

I KNOW I've asked this image posting question several times. I wrote it down on a sticky note, but that fell off a couple of months ago.

I'll write it down again.

[img src="url'/] is what works for this little macbook.

>>"If you don't like it, just leave it out."

then why does it work when I do it?

http://www.htmlcodetutorial.com/images/_IMG_SRC.html

shows it done the right way! ;)

New requirement for img tags? ( like )

http://bytes.com/forum/thread500324.html

I have switched to a new HTML editor that comes with the Eclipse IDE
(plugin MyEclipse).

This editor flags image tags such as

saying that the "element type "img" must be terminated by a matching
end-tag.
If I change the above img tag to

i.e., I close the tag with a forward slash and angle right bracket,
than there are no more complaints.

Is this a new rule in HTML, that tags need to be treated more like
common XML and closed "properly" with "/>".

Thanks for your help and advice,

Wolfgang,
Santa Barbara, CA

hmm.. gotta keep practicing this html stuff...

>>Chubby is a HTML Anarchist...

Damned straight!!!

over-regulating the html market place will drown the web-economy!

There is no forward slash in the constitution!!!

That's the problem with HTML. IT NEEDS BETTER REGULATION! It's silly things like the / in the ≶img> tag that make things blow up on some browsers and not on others. Opera tried to be a "strict adherer" to pure HTML but I don't know if they are still sticking with it.

Man am I ever glad McDeregulator doesn't know what the internet is or he'd have it humming like the banking industry in the late 80's and then again like it is today.

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Rules? Regulations? We have no need for those in the benevolent and wise Free Market System!

leaving it off effs some browsers

back to the drawing board!

(img src="url")(/p)

(img src="url")put snappy comment here(/p)

ampersandlt; and ampersandgt; will make it happen. Just replace the word ampersand the the symbol (Shift - 7)

< and now you know >

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..off to read some Vonnegut .... back later.

srsly!!1!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2442729271017222425

On September 25,2008 the bi-monthly Labor On The Job interviewed Cindy Sheehan who is running against Democrat and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Pelosi has refused to have any debates and Cindy discusses why she is running and what the key issues are for her and working people in the election. "Labor On The Job" is programmed the very 2nd and 4th Friday at 9:00 PM to 10:00 PM of the month on San Francisco Cable Channel 29. "Labor On The Job" is also the longest running labor cable show in the United States since 1983.

It is produced and programmed by the Labor Video Project in San Francisco. Labor On The Job is also programmed on Philadelphia Drexel TV 54 every Wednesday 5:30 PM to 6:30 PM and St. Louis cable systems on on cable ch. 22 in the "City" of St. Louis Fridays at 9:00 PM The Labor Video Project also produces labor documentaries and is part of the Union Producers and Programmers Network (UPPNET) http://www.uppnet.org

You can watch Labor Video Productions on Google Video by searching Labor Video Project & http://www.youtube and searching Labor Video Project Labor Video Project P.O.Box 720027 San Francisco,CA 94172 Phone (415)282-1908 lvpsf [at] labornet.org www.laborvideo.org

>>ampersandlt; and ampersandgt; will make it happen. Just replace the word ampersand the the symbol (Shift - 7)

that's not in the Bible!

< >

Witches!!!

HTML witchcraft!!!

and yer stupid cats too!

"It's the Economy Stupid" - McCain camp: Obama is 'radical,' pals around with terrorists

Politico

Pegged to a Times story that adds nothing to the theory that Obama and Bill Ayers were particularly close, the McCain camp is focusing on that association again today, in an attempt to move the conversation beyond the economic issues on which Obama looks to spend the last month of the race.

Palin hit Obama a bit harder on this than McCain has in the past.

"There's been a lot of interest in what I read lately. Well, I was reading my copy of today’s New York Times and I was really interested to read about Barack’s friends from Chicago. Turns out, one of his earliest supporters is a man who, according to The New York Times was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, ‘launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol,'" Palin said today, according to a transcript distributed by the campaign. "These are the same guys who think patriotism is paying higher taxes. This is not a man who sees America as you and I do - as the greatest force for good in the world.

"This is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country," Palin concluded, in the hardest shot of the statement.

The McCain camp also has a second statement out, responding to Obama's attack on McCain's healthcare plan as "radical."

"On a day when new reports have surfaced about Barack Obama's long association with a domestic terrorist, our Democratic opponent had the audacity to call John McCain's health care plan 'radical.' The American people know radical when they hear it, and John McCain is not the candidate in this election they should be concerned about," said spokesman Tucker Bounds.

Obama spokesman Hari Sevugan responded:

Governor Palin’s comments, while offensive, are not surprising, given the McCain campaign’s statement this morning that they would be launching Swiftboat-like attacks in hopes of deflecting attention from the nation’s economic ills. In fact, the very newspaper story Governor Palin cited in hurling her shameless attack made clear that Senator Obama is not close to Bill Ayers, much less ‘pals,’ and that he has strongly condemned the despicable acts Ayers committed 40 years ago, when Obama was eight. What’s clear is that John McCain and Sarah Palin would rather spend their time tearing down Barack Obama than laying out a plan to build up our economy.

Could you put me back on the MMR pics and overflow? I had an email addy change so I can't get in again. I'll email you so you have my new addy

Thanks.

Good to see you on the blog again.

I want you to know that if we ever end up as prisoners stuck in an underground bunker that doubles as a ganga factory, I wouldn't stop fighting until I got you out with me :)

That goes for the rest of you phoocurs 2.

Issue October 03, 2008 - http://sanders.senate.gov

Dear friend,

Thank you for co-signing a letter to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson urging that any bailout be fiscally responsible, include a major recovery package, re-establish obviously needed regulation of financial institutions, and end the dangers posed by companies that are ‘too big to fail.’

I was amazed, and greatly heartened, by the tremendous number of people who signed the letter. When we delivered it to the secretary’s office Wednesday, it had more than 48,000 signatures, including yours.

Unfortunately, Wednesday was also the day that the Senate passed a bailout package. Because it did not have the strong provisions we called for in our letter to Secretary Paulson, I voted against the bailout.

Before the Senate passed the bill, there was a vote on what was probably the key provision in our letter: a five-year, 10 percent surtax on income over $1 million a year for couples and over $500,000 for individuals. That would raise more than $300 billion in revenue over five years, but wouldn’t cost 99.7 percent of taxpayers a single penny. On the Senate floor, I talked about our letter. (To read about it or watch excerpts, click here or here.) I talked about how the bailout of Wall Street banks and financial firms should be paid for by those who benefitted from the greed and excess of Wall Street, not by middle-class Americans. I am sorry to report that the amendment did not pass.

This is not the end of our fight, but the beginning. I look forward to working with you again as we move forward in asserting that the needs of our nation’s middle class, its working families, should come ahead of the needs of the financial services industry and those who profited off Wall Street excesses.

I would like to stay in touch. I hope you will be interesting in receiving occasional updates on what the federal government is doing – and what it should be doing – to address the serious economic and financial concerns ahead of us. If you prefer not to receive more of my e-mails (they will be modest in number), click the unsubscribe link at the bottom of this page.

Thanks again for co-signing the letter. You helped raise 48,000 voices of reason in an important national debate.

NPR

Vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin didn't report thousands of dollars in state travel reimbursements that she collected while living at home last year, according to her tax return for 2007.

As governor of Alaska, Palin collected per diems for scores of nights spent in her own home and working at a state office in Anchorage rather her office in faraway Juneau, the state capitol. The patterns varied, but the state paid her, on average, $890 a month, according to The Washington Post, which first reported the payments.

Although Palin and her husband paid 20 percent of their income in taxes last year, the per diems don't appear on their 2007 tax return.

The McCain-Palin campaign, which released her 2006 and 2007 returns, said Palin was in compliance with state policies and the reimbursements weren't taxable income.

Critics insist the reimbursements are taxable income because the Anchorage office is just 45 miles away from her home. Under IRS rules, that could be considered just commuting.

Palin spent less time in the Juneau office, but didn't claim per diems when she was there........

>>and yer stupid cats too!

no reason to get personal!

Let's hope we never need to though.

MSNBC Bruce Springteen performs at Obama Rally in Philly.

Now Palin, ooops! Yuch!

Did you ever notice what bad taste in women celticman has?

Palin failed to pay taxes on her per diem payments
In an overview of Sarah Palin's tax returns for 2006 and 2007, which she has finally released, the Associated Press reports that Palin neglected to pay the taxes due on $17,000 she received in per diem payments as Governor of Alaska. A McCain campaign official claims, falsely, that Palin owed no taxes on those payments.

Sarah Palin makes $125,000 a year as Alaska governor. Plus, since she took the job in December 2006, she hasn't paid taxes on the more than $17,000 she received in controversial per diem payments for working out of the family's lakeside home in Wasilla...

Regarding the per diem dispute, [McCain-Palin spokeswoman Maria] Comella said Juneau is the governor's home base and therefore whenever she works elsewhere, she is entitled to charge the state. Comella contended the per diem payments are not taxable.

[Former IRS commissioner Sheldon] Cohen said it was fine for the state of Alaska to determine it was okay to reimburse Palin to work out of her home, but the state's decision didn't mean those benefits were not taxable by the federal government. "One has nothing to do with the other," said Cohen.

It's very clear that taxes were due on these per diems. This is tax evasion by Sarah Palin, pure and simple. It doesn't quite rise to the level of Richard Nixon's utter failure to pay any taxes for a few years while he was president. But what a standard to be flirting with.

Palin's per diems are themselves controversial. She billed the state of Alaska nearly $17,000 for 312 nights she spent at her house in Wasilla. Because the governor has a mansion in Juneau and is supposed to reside and work there (though she is in fact absent far more than she's present in the capital), she may be permitted technically under state regulations to claim a per diem for lodging while she's staying at her own home. But it looks pretty cynical to claim to be a reformer while seeking payments for living at home. That's particularly true since Palin also billed the state to fly her husband and children around the state, to the tune of more than $43,000. Once Palin brought one of her daughters with her at great expense to a Women and Leadership conference in New York City, where they stayed in an extremely luxurious hotel.

More here:

http://www.unbossed.com/index.php?itemid=2325

>>>>>snip>>>>>

the Times has yet to mention, let alone devote an entire article to, Sen. John McCain's relationship with radio host and convicted Watergate burglar G. Gordon Liddy. Indeed, in its October 4 article, the Times quoted Chicago Tribune columnist Steve Chapman denouncing Obama's association with Ayers but did not note that Chapman has described Liddy as McCain's "own Bill Ayers" and has written that "[i]f Obama needs to answer questions about Ayers, McCain has the same obligation regarding Liddy." The Times, moreover, quoted McCain criticizing Obama for his association with Ayers without noting that Chapman has faulted McCain for what Chapman described as McCain's "howling hypocrisy on the subject."

As Media Matters for America has noted, Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in "if necessary"; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a "gangland figure" to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap "leftist guerillas" at the 1972 Republican National Convention -- a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis. (The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.) During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents and also reportedly said he had named his shooting targets after Bill and Hillary Clinton..........

http://mediamatters.org/items/200810040004

Ever wonder why we never see female wingnuts?

aside from paid ones like Malkin and Coulter (Culter?), of course...

why is that?

don't the wingnut guys let the wingnut gals leave their blogs?

or mayber there are no wingnut gals in the first place?

"Allow the President to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so, whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose -- and you allow him to make war at pleasure. If today, he should choose to say he thinks it necessary to invade Canada, to prevent the British from invading us, how could you stop him? You may say to him, 'I see no probability of the British invading us' but he will say to you, 'Be silent; I see it, if you don't." : Abraham Lincoln.

Coulter's a girl?

>>Coulter's a girl?

well, not without the makeup and dress...

It was forwarded to my sister-in-law and she sent it to me.
She's not really that smart but think she is and belives this crap. And this is being sent by the stupid rethugs.

Here it is in all it's lying glory:

TO ALL MY FRIENDS....LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE........FYI only.

George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine.
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
4) the DOW JONES hit a record high--14,000 +
5) American's were buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations overseas, living large!...

But American's wanted 'CHANGE'! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress and yes--we got 'CHANGE' all right. In the PAST YEAR:
1) Consumer confidence has plummeted;
2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing!;
3) Unemployment is up to 5.5% (a 10% increase);
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION
DOLLARS and prices still dropping;
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
6) as I write, THE DOW is probing another low~~
$2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS HAS EVAPORATED FROM THEIR
STOCKS, BONDS & MUTUAL FUNDS INVESTMENT
PORTFOLIOS!

YES, IN 2006 AMERICA VOTED FOR CHANGE...AND WE SURE GOT IT!...
REMEMBER THE PRESIDENT HAS NO CONTROL OVER ANY OF THESE ISSUES, ONLY CONGRESS.
AND WHAT HAS CONGRESS DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
NOW THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT CLAIMS HE IS GOING TO REALLY GIVE US CHANGE ALONG WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS!!!!
JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE'

I sent a reply to every email addy that was on the list and there were many because my sister-in-law deosn't delete all the names of the forwarded emails.

What I sent wasn't very nice. I told them that only stupid people that didn't do any research would believe this email. I used my dummy email account to do it in case I get responses it all goes to my spam.

Chubby Bubba at 3.31 >>i cherished every moment

I just finished watching this week's Maher and he was hysterical opening with Lowry verbatim. I googled to find the original then came to this blog to see if anybody else thought that it was worth relaying.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDYzMGFiNjQ0MWRjNmI0ZTlkYjgwZTE...

The original "It" girl was silent star Clara Bow and many know what happened to her when she had to talk. If I'm not mistaken Clara was the inspiration for Lina Lamont in Singin' in the Rain.

>>You should see the email I just got!

I hope you documented this as carefully as you do everything here.

It may make a difference to those sitting on the fence.

I saw something just like it not long ago. These people are so delusional and lost they will do anything to avoid responsibility for their vote and stupidity.

Please post any of the hilarious reply's you get to your response. Those are priceless. What dolts.

>>I just finished watching this week's Maher and he was hysterical opening with Lowry verbatim.

Keith Oberman had a lot of fun with this last night of Countdown, too.

It is so freakin' over the top that such nonsensical bullshit passes as political analysis/commentary.

But, this generation of wingnuts has nothing left to go on than image.

Facts certainly don't support their POV.

>>These people are so delusional and lost they will do anything to avoid responsibility for their vote and stupidity.

yeah...talk about a powerful congress.

I wish those wingnuts would tell us exactly what it was the congress passed to cause all this fall out. (because we can point to EXACTLY what has caused it -- deregulation).

or is it just because democrats were around when the shit hit the fan.

their POV is like an 85 year old man who's smoked 2 packs of cigarettes a day since he was 12 being told he has lung cancer and then blames the cancer on what he had for breakfast that morning.

reaganomics is alive and destroying the planet!!

"The evil that men do lives after them;
the good is oft interred with their bones..."

BUT, ALAS, IN reagan, THERE TWAS NO GOOD TO INTER..

>>BUT, ALAS, IN reagan, THERE TWAS NO GOOD TO INTER..

Awww, come on...there were a few good episodes of `Death Valley days'

It's like they want to blame Roosevelt for Hoovervilles.

Failed bank chiefs to face sanctions: Sarkozy
Agence France-Presse

PARIS (AFP) - The leaders of Britain, France, Germany and Italy vowed at an emergency summit Saturday to help European banks and financial institutions in trouble but also to sanction the heads of failed banks, President Nicolas Sarkozy said.

The quartet also issued a joint call for a Group of Eight industrial powers summit "as soon as possible" to review rules governing financial markets, Sarkozy told a press conference.

Sarkozy said the four countries would intervene to help commercial institutions in trouble, but there would be no bailout fund and authorities would penalise executives and shareholders under the terms of rescue packages.

"We have agreed to make a solemn engagement as heads of state and government to support banking and financial institutions faced with the crisis," he said.

"In the case of a public support to a bank in distress, each member state present here has decided that those executives who failed will be sanctioned and the shareholders bear the weight of the intervention," Sarkozy said.

Sarkozy said that bonus structures for top executives should be "revisted in order to avoid incentivising the taking of excessive risk and to fight against what we can call 'short-termism'."

And they agreed to show flexibility when applying strict European state aid rules -- as has been the case in Britain, where Brown's government waived through a proposed merger deal between Lloyds-TSB and HBOS.

He called for a "task force uniting regulators, central banks and ministers" to take charge of monitoring the coordinated response.

The group met to seek a coordinated response to the credit crunch, which has drained liquidity from banks and stock markets and undermined flagging growth rates.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel spelled out that European states must "take their responsibilities at a national level" for the banking crisis, while being careful not to harm other European states.

Jean-Claude Juncker, Luxembourg premier and eurozone group head, said Saturday after a mini-summit of European economic powers that the stability pact laying down regulations for economies which use the euro must be "respected" despite the international financial crisis.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Failed_bank_chiefs_to_face_sanctions_1004....

Time for McCain to bow out and let a real man run the GOP ticket ....

NYT

You have to wonder how long it will be before they plead with him (McCain) to think of his health, get out of the way and pull the ultimate stunt of flipping the ticket. Palin, we can be certain, wouldn’t even blink......

Campaign floundering, McCain retreats to Arizona ranch
Agence France-Presse

FLAGSTAFF, Arizona, (AFP) – With poll numbers slipping, Republican John McCain on Saturday struggled to inject fresh energy into his White House campaign a little over four weeks before the US presidential elections.

As the clock ticks down to November 4, McCain has yet to seize the upper hand from his Democratic rival Barack Obama and has been left trailing in the polls.

Even a gutsy debate performance by Republican VP pick Sarah Palin late Thursday, in which she performed better than expected against her Democratic rival Joseph Biden, appears to not have been enough to turn the race around.

On Thursday the McCain campaign pulled out of Michigan, effectively surrendering the midwestern state to the Democrats, to focus instead on six swing states.

And with more bad news on the economic front, McCain was to retreat to his Arizona ranch for the weekend, in a highly unusual disappearing act at the height of the campaign.

Missouri, where Thursday's debate was held, is one of the key states in play -- along with Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Indiana and Ohio -- and Republicans there acknowledged there was work to be done.

"Senator McCain has to win Missouri to win the White House. So there is a strong commitment from the McCain-Palin campaign to make sure that we deliver Missouri," said the party's state executive director Jared Craighead.

Obama meanwhile campaigning in Pennsylvania vowed to protect taxpayers and homeowners from the fallout of the Wall Street crisis.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Campaign_floundering_McCain_retreats_to_Ar...

Poland no longer 'willing' on Iraq
Another member of Bush's 'coalition of the willing' pulls troops from occupation.

http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/04/poland-ends-military-presence-in...

Record Refutes Palin's Sudan Claim
Palin Administration Against Sudan Divestment Before It Was For It, Documents Show
By JUSTIN ROOD
October 3, 2008—

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin fought to protest atrocities in Sudan by dropping assets tied to the country's brutal regime from the state's multi-billion-dollar investment fund, she claimed during Thursday's vice presidential debate.

Not quite, according to a review of the public record  and according to the recollections of a legislator and others who pushed a measure to divest Alaskan holdings in Sudan-linked investments.

"The [Palin] administration killed our bill," said Alaska state representative Les Gara, D-Anchorage. Gara and state Rep. Bob Lynn, R-Anchorage, co-sponsored a resolution early this year to force the Alaska Permanent Fund  a $40 billion investment fund, a portion of whose dividends are distributed annually to state residents  to divest millions of dollars in holdings tied to the Sudanese government.

In Thursday's debate, Palin said she had advocated the state divest from Sudan. "When I and others in the legislature found out that we had some millions of dollars [of Permanent Fund investments] in Sudan, we called for divestment through legislation of those dollars," Palin said.

But a search of news clips and transcripts from the first three months of this year did not turn up an instance in which Palin mentioned the Sudanese crisis or concerns about Alaska's investments tied to the ruling regime. Moreover, Palin's administration openly opposed the bill, and stated its opposition in a public hearing on the measure.

"The legislation is well-intended, and the desire to make a difference is noble, but mixing moral and political agendas at the expense of our citizens' financial security is not a good combination," testified Brian Andrews, Palin's deputy revenue commissioner, before a hearing on the Gara-Lynn Sudan divestment bill in February. Minutes from the meeting are posted online by the legislature.

Gara says the lack of support from Palin's administration helped kill the measure.

"I walked out of that hearing livid," Gara recalled of the February meeting. Because of the Palin administration's opposition to the bill, "We could not get a vote in that committee," he explained. At no point did Palin come out in support of the effort, Gara said.

The bill's Republican co-sponsor remembers things differently. "I know she was very strongly behind this," said Rep. Lynn. Asked why, if Palin supported the bill, one of her administration's officials would speak against it, Lynn demurred. "We don't all work in lockstep here," he said. "People have different opinions," he added.

Lynn said he and Palin agreed to re-introduce the bill next January, and push to pass it then. He declined to consider whether stronger support from Palin would have helped the bill survive this winter. "I'm not going to do this what if, what if, what if," he said. "These are hypotheticals."

Gara said that after it was clear the bill had stalled, he and others pressed the administration directly on Sudan divestment.

"We were outraged," Gara recounted. "We went to the Commissioner of Revenue and said, 'What the hell are you guys doing? This is genocide. We're going to keep pushing this until we divest."

Two months later, at the end of the legislative session, the administration softened its position. Appearing before a Senate committee which was considering a companion measure to Gara's bill, Palin's Revenue commissioner, Patrick Galvin, stated the administration supported such a measure, though it hoped to amend the bill to allow for investments held indirectly, for example in index funds.

"We have a moral responsibility to condemn the genocide in Darfur," Palin told a reporter in April, through a spokesperson. "I commend the actions of the Senate State Affairs Committee and I hope the entire legislature gets a chance to weigh in on this matter."

"At the last minute they showed up" and supported the divestment effort, Gara said. But by then the legislative session was almost over, and there wasn't enough time to get it passed.

The Alaska Permanent Fund currently holds $22 million in Sudan-linked investments, according to the non-profit Sudan Divestment Task Force. Divestment advocates say the fund does not need an act of the state legislature to divest itself of those holdings.

The McCain-Palin campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., has been a strong supporter of Sudan divestment efforts, and has urged Americans to liquidate their holdings in companies who do business there. He was criticized for that position when it was revealed in May his wife Cindy held $2 million in investment funds owning shares of Sudan-linked companies. She sold those holdings following a reporter's inquiries.

Click Here for the Investigative Homepage.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=5948944

Choppers collide over Baghdad
Two US Blackhawks down in accident; At least one dead, more injured.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Two_us_Blackhawks_collide_in_Baghdad_1004....

Submitted by celticman on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 3:10pm.
but it sure was nice watching Palin kick Biden's ass the other night...just want you to know that i cherished every moment of that thumping
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You were watching Joy on My Name Is Earl. It was aired before the debate. Joy kicked Earl's ass.

Not to worry, it's a common mistake among the reality-challenged to confuse a trailer trash sitcom character sporting tits and ass with an Alaskan hick Creationist politician sporting tits and ass.

It is worth noting that Joy's income and lifestyle places her a lot closer to being a Soccer Mom than Sarah's income and lifestyle does.

The treasurer of Massachusetts has asked the federal government about lending Massachusetts money under the same favorable terms it has given banks and firms during the financial crisis.

Treasurer Timothy Cahill's requests to the U.S. Treasury and Federal Reserve Bank of Boston this week were prompted by the state's inability to borrow from the short-term debt markets, The Boston Globe reported Saturday. The financial turmoil has caused credit markets to stop lending, or to charge prohibitive rates.

California has made a similar request, saying it would run out of money by the end of the month if the short-term debt markets do not ease. The state asked whether it could not obtain loans from the Fed.

Massachusetts has enough money to cover its expenses for the coming weeks, Cahill said. But a low-rate loan would ease a cash shortfall if the credit problems persist.

"That's all we would ask them to do: Treat us like the investment banks," Cahill said.

Federal officials have not responded to his request, Cahill said Friday.

The state's borrowing problems come as it deals with a $223 million shortfall in projected tax collections during the first quarter of the state's fiscal year. On Thursday, Gov. Deval Patrick announced the first of what could be a series of cuts to programs and operations to deal with the sagging collections.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/10/04/national/a13...

Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists
By JIM KUHNHENN – 4 hours ago

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) — Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is accusing Democrat Barack Obama of "palling around with terrorists" for his association with a former 1960s radical.

Palin was referring to Bill Ayers, one of the founders of the group the Weather Underground. The group took credit for bombings, including nonfatal explosions at the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol four decades ago.

In remarks to GOP donors in Englewood, Colo., on Saturday, Palin said Obama seems to see the U.S. as being so imperfect that, in her words, "he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country."

Obama served on a charity board with Ayers in Chicago and has denounced his past activities.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h2TC1ztefVzOiXeCNcmY7lIelBNwD93JRMQ81

The following candidates were for dumping our tax-payer money into banks, and giving untold of leeway to Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson:

Democrat Barack Obama

Republican John McCain

The following candidates were against the dumping of money, and made suggestions for completely different and better ways to address the problems due to the financial crisis:

Green Party candidate Cynthia McKinney

Libertarian candidate Bob Barr

Independent/Peace and Freedom Party candidate Ralph Nader.

In conclusion:

Third Parties are the only safe investment. Vote Third Party.

If you are a progressive, or a genuine, fiscal conservative, you just LOST. The two major party candidates have the pleasure of serving in the Senate NOW, and what they did was vote against you, vote to give your money away. You don’t have a voice in this election, unless there is a third party on the platform. So, give a Third Party candidate a chance, make a donation. Get that alternative view into the public discourse, give a Third Party candidate some money.

Third Parties: The only good way to invest your money NOW.

McCain Campaign Negativity Officially Now Hits New Low
October 4th, 2008
By JOE GANDELMAN, Editor-In-Chief

As of today, not only are the gloves off, but so is any semblance that the McCain campaign is one that can end in a White House that unites the country and deals with opponents in a way other than polarizing demonization with this statement by Republican Vice Presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin. (I postrd this AP story above-tD)

Readers can go to the link themselves since we don’t like to advertise this kind of political rhetoric on this site and would react the same way if the same thing had been said about John McCain Republican.

We’ve run several posts now about reports that the McCain campaign has decided to go negative in a new way. Palin’s attack is essentially a mega centimeter away from being a new form of McCarthyism. Can it work? Perhaps.

But there will be some independent voters who will cast very quick protest votes against the McCain-Palin ticket for this kind of rhetoric, and perhaps cast protest votes right down the line against the GOP. Some voters have wanted to MOVE AWAY from this kind of politics. It does show a kind of change: a descent to even sleazier depths of the politics of personal demonization that so many independent voters already decry.

UPDATE: Mark Halperin adds:

Her remarks come in response to a New York Times story on Obama’s relationship with former Weather Underground member Bill Ayers.

McCain campaign and RNC distribute her words by email to reporters.

And the New York Times does not find that Obama was a close bud. Here’s the link and a key quote:

More recently, conservative critics who accuse Mr. Obama of a stealth radical agenda have asserted that he has misleadingly minimized his relationship with Mr. Ayers, whom the candidate has dismissed as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood” and “somebody who worked on education issues in Chicago that I know.”

A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called “somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.”

Obama campaign aides said the Ayers relationship had been greatly exaggerated by opponents to smear the candidate.

“The suggestion that Ayers was a political adviser to Obama or someone who shaped his political views is patently false,” said Ben LaBolt, a campaign spokesman. Mr. LaBolt said the men first met in 1995 through the education project, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and have encountered each other occasionally in public life or in the neighborhood. He said they have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Mr. Obama began serving in the United States Senate in January 2005 and last met more than a year ago when they bumped into each other on the street in Hyde Park.

See the comments above on the likely reaction of some independent voters to this kind of political tactic.

More blog reaction to Palin’s comments is HERE.

More at link

http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/23210/mccain-campa...

Here, kitty: Police expect house cat, get cougar

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/odd_big_kitty

Wed Oct 1, 3:52 PM ET

CASPER, Wyo. - A police officer didn't think much of a call to shoo off a bothersome "kitty cat" at a home in Casper, Wyo. Then the officer arrived at the home of Beverly Hood. It was no ordinary domestic feline — but a male mountain lion weighing 80 to 90 pounds.

Officer Mike Ableman says he ran for cover inside Hood's home when he saw the cougar.

Hood says she was inside when she first saw the mountain lion lying on her porch Monday. Hood says the lion hissed at her, but she wasn't scared.

She called 911, animal control and the Wyoming Game and Fish Department. Hood reported that she had a bothersome "big cat." A dispatcher told Ableman that it was a house cat.

A game warden tranquilized the mountain lion and the animal was relocated.

Boy wreaks zoo havoc while feeding croc

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_zoo

Fri Oct 3, 3:10 PM ET

CANBERRA (Reuters) - The parents of a 7-year-old boy who broke into an Australian outback zoo and fed a string of small animals to its resident crocodile are likely to be sued after police said the boy was too young to be held responsible.
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A turtle, four western blue tongue lizards, two bearded dragons, two thorny devil lizards and an adult female Spencer's goanna were fed or led into the jaws of a three-foot, 440 pound saltwater crocodile named "Terry."

Security camera footage at the Alice Springs Reptile Center showed the smiling youngster also bludgeoning to death a small blue tongue lizard and two more thorny devils during a half-hour of breakfast-time havoc last Wednesday.

"The fact a 7-year-old can wreak so much havoc in such a short time, it's unbelievable. In my day he'd get a big boot up the arse," center director Rex Neindorf told Reuters by phone.

"Police found him, but in the Northern Territory here he can't be accountable if he's under 10 years of age."

Neindorf said many of the animals fed to the croc were rare or mature and would be difficult to replace.

The boy was unknown at the center and had "clammed up" when questioned by police on what sparked the rampage, he said.

Neindorf said he was now looking at suing the parents of the pint-sized terror, who could easily have been taken by Terry himself as he fed the croc from a small landing at his enclosure.

"We'll be looking at suing the parents, who were supposedly in control of him at the time," he said.

(Reporting by Rob Taylor; Editing by Alex Richardson)

at Vanderbilt University

The Coalition for October Debate Alternatives (CODA) released the program and format today for the Presidential Candidate’s Alternative Debate to be held October 6 at 7 p.m. at 4309 Stevenson Hall (seating for 250), Vanderbilt University, in Nashville, Tennessee. Those candidates who have confirmed attendance include Charles Jay of the Boston Tea Party, Brad Lyttle of the US Pacifist Party, Frank McEnulty of the New American Independent Party, Brian Moore of the Socialist Party, Darrell Castle, Vic Presidential Candidate of the Constitution Party, and Gloria La Riva of the Party for Socialism and Liberation. The moderator of the debate will be Bruce Barry, Vanderbilt Professor at the Owen School of Management. The event is free and open to the public on a first come basis. For those who are unable to watch the debates in person, the debate can be viewed live on the website of Vanderbilt University. The debate will also be archived on the internet at Vanderbilt University’s Youtube page.

The format for the debate will consist of policy and platform questions concerning the economy, foreign policy, health care, the environment, civil liberties, the federal budget, reproductive rights, international trade, gun rights, campaign finance reform, immigration, education and race and gender. Each candidate will be given two minutes to make introductory statements and then one or two minutes per question to answer policy and platform questions. The debate will end at 8:30pm with a candidate’s reception to follow in the lobby of the Stephenson Center.
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http://www.alternativecandidatesdebate.com/

For more information about the Presidential Candidate’s Alternative Debate visit their web site.

Attending this event will be Charles Jay of the Boston Tea Party, Brad Lyttle of the US Pacifist Party, Frank McEnulty of the New American Independent Party, Brian Moore of the Socialist Party, Darrell Castle of the Constitution Party and Gloria La Riva of the Party for Socialism and Liberation. Bruce Barry will serve as moderator for this event.
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I heard or read (I apologize for rarely citing sources to stuff that I remember hearing or reading...I could Google it but so could you) that the press is being overwhelmed with news items, any of which would lead the headlines on an average news day.

There are times when hundreds of reporters can be dispatched to cover Terri Schiavo's last days on earth, and there are other times when the credit crisis, and increased violence in Iraq and Afghanistan, and Paul Newman's death, and O.J.'s trial, and a presidential campaign, and the national debt, and stem cell breakthroughs, and problems with the Hubble telescope and the CERN collider, and legal woes befalling Tom DeLay and Ted Stevens and Karl Rove, and jobless figures coupled with other recessionary indicators, and the DOW tanking...are too much news happening too fast to be adequately covered with a limited number of reporters.

During the recent maw of newsworthy items, I credit David Letterman for speaking at length of Paul Newman as a good and decent man, whose efforts on behalf of people other than himself set an example and an aspiration for the rest of us.
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And speaking of Letterman (which I was), it is my opinion that he has crossed a line...or had some sort of catharsis...or has decided "What the fuck do I care what they think of me?"...or is suffering from the Bait Syndrome, which is lost patience with being treated like an idiot by politicians.

In years past, Letterman was as neutral with politics as a late-night comic can be: Every political figure was a target for a laugh.

No longer. The Bush years have turned Letterman toward exposing insulting political behavior for what it is: Insulting. I believe that Letterman is pissed-off and he ain't going to take it anymore. What are they going to do, fire him?

Maybe having a son has changed his perspective? Certainly his bullet-proof position among the late-night television competition has afforded him the ability to use "Fuck you! jokes with impunity.

Woe be to President Obama if he engages in insulting platitudes and transparent lies. Letterman is the new voice of Joe Sixpack, and he ain't gonna allow crap to pass as petunias no mo'.

Doublethink: The power…to tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them.

--George Orwell, 1984

gross...

I have my sample ballot now and am grossed out that about seeing the proposition about letting certain animals stretch their wings, limbs - to turn around and sit all the way upright in their cages....that is so mean to treat animals that way to begin with...

Submitted by Chubby Bubba on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 7:34pm.
Boy wreaks zoo havoc while feeding croc
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Rajah Wreaks Aquarium Havoc After Teasing Cats With Fish

Obama’s tax plan doesn’t hurt small business
Posted on October 3, 2008 by Brian Angliss

UPDATE: Marc in the comments made a point about sole proprietorships with employees that I’d like to address as well.

Barack Obama wants to reduce taxes for roughly 95% of the United States while raising taxes on the other 5% - those making more than $200,000 per year. John McCain wants to lower taxes on everyone, and attacks Obama’s tax increase on the upper 5% as destroying small businesses and jobs. I decided to do some research on this issues to see if, in fact, raising taxes on those individuals making more than $200,000 would reduce employment or not, and I found out some interesting things. The conclusion, however, is this: Obama’s tax increase on the wealthy will not directly harm small businesses. At. All.

First, some definitions so we all know what I’m talking about. So far as I can tell, the only small businesses that pay taxes at the personal income rate are “sole proprietorships”, the simplest type of business in the U.S. According to NOLO.com, a sole proprietorship may have employees, but the census indicates that the bulk of sole propreitorships do not - they’re considered nonemployers, and they are the largest portion of all U.S. businesses.

In 2005 (the last year for which there is both data on nonemployers and employers at the U.S. Census Bureau), there were 20,392,068 nonemployers with a total income of $951 billion (Source: Nonemployer Statistics, 2005, Total for all sectors, United States). Small business employers1 numbered 5,878,784 (Source: Statistics of U.S. Businesses, All Industries, 2005). The total number of all employer and nonemployer businesses in 2005 was 26,375,614, of which 26,270,852 (or 99.6%) would qualify as small businesses as I’ve defined it above. This would be why people respond when you threaten to increase taxes on small businesses - there’s a LOT of small businesses.

But look closer at those numbers. The average income per nonemployer small business is the total income divided by the number of employers, which in this case is only $46,635. What that means is that the vast majority of nonemployer small businesses (which we can probably fairly say are mostly sole proprietorships) would be unaffected by the Obama tax cut. In fact, since they make so little, they’d get a tax cut, not a tax increase.

Yes, you read that right: the average small business would get a tax cut under Obama’s tax plan, not a tax increase as McCain has suggested.

Various websites have suggested that there are between 15 and 20 million sole proprietorships - that’s less than the number of nonemployers from the Census data, but since some employers are certainly covered while some non-employers certainly aren’t, we’ll assume that all the nonemployers are sole proprietorships. Further, if you look at the Census household income survey for 2005, you’ll find that only 3% of all households made more than $200,000. Since sole proprietorship income is taxed as household income, we can probably fairly assume that only about 3% of all sole proprietorships in 2005 would be affected by Obama’s tax increase.

This means that only 3% of all businesses would see their taxes go up as a result of the Obama tax plan.

And this will cause our employment situation to get dramatically worse how, exactly? It’s not like all 3% will go out of business entirely as a result of the tax increase - the increase just isn’t big enough to drive them all out of business. In fact, according to this BusinessWeek Q&A, the numbers are hard to estimate, but that 9% per year is a commonly used value. If we assume that the Obama tax increase boosts the failure rate for sole proprietorships from 9% to 14%, then that’s approximately an additional 31,000 jobs lost.

Of course, if we say that the tax cut to the other 97% of sole proprietorships drops the failure rate from 9% to 8%, then that’s an additional 198,000 jobs created by the other sole proprietorships, for a net increase of 167,000 jobs. Annually.

Or, as Factcheck.org said when they tackled this issue earlier this year:

McCain has repeatedly claimed that Obama would raise tax rates for 23 million small-business owners. It’s a false and preposterously inflated figure.

http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/03/obama-tax-plan/#more-4460

They won't do it. But I'd bust out the witch craft ads and especially the AIP ads.
I accidentally met Mark Brewer (MI Dem party head) today in a local Dem office, and almost brought up what a lunatic you would have to be a belong to the AIP.

BTW, Mark Brewer believes this whole "pulling out of MI" is setup along the lines of lowering the expectations of Sarah's debate performance.

alert

>>Palin’s attack is essentially a mega centimeter away from being a new form of McCarthyism.

WTF is this supposed to mean?

There is no such thing as "mega centimeter"!

if the writer want to infer it is close, wouldn't centimeter suffice? or maybe millimeter? or maybe 1/1000th of a millimeter?

putting `mega' in front of `centimeter' creates an instant oxymoron.

a centimeter is 1/100th of a meter.

mega means 1) Large: megadose, 2. Surpassing other examples of its kind; extraordinary: megahit. 3) One million: megahertz. 4). 1,048,576: megabyte.

none of these make sense to me.

I'm not always good with math, but I think he is saying Palin’s attack is essentially a 100 kilometers away from being a new form of McCarthyism.

the idea of an `extraordinary centimeter' seems ridiculous...so does a large centimeter...a centimeter is just that, a centimeter. No more, no less.

the point is far better made without adding the maddeningly confusing qualifier `mega'.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/4/152649/335/292/620080

Biden Schedule Cancelled: Family Illness (Bayh filling in) Hotlist

ECONOMIC CLUELESNESS: As Congress is in the middle of approving a $700 billion financial bailout, yesterday's debate appropriately kicked off with a discussion of economic issues. Palin repeatedly stressed the reform that she and Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) would bring to the government. "Now, John McCain thankfully has been one representing reform," Palin said. "Two years ago, remember, it was John McCain who pushed so hard with the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reform measures. He sounded that warning bell." This claim, however, is an exaggeration. This morning, NPR fact-checked Palin's claim and found that in 2005, Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) was actually the one who led the effort to tighten regulations. NPR said that the only piece they could find from McCain was a press release co-sponsoring Hagel's measure.

Additionally, in an interview in November 2007, McCain admitted that he was clueless about the economic mess: "So, I'd like to tell you that I did anticipate it, but I have to give you straight talk, I did not." In an interview that aired on Sept. 24, Couric pressed Palin to name "specific examples" of McCain pushing for more regulation. Palin failed, however, and simply replied, "I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you."

Palin was similarly confused and overwhelmed by her memorized talking points in a CBS interview that aired the next day, when she inexplicably claimed that the bailout is needed to "help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy," a position that no experts have taken.

http://app.mx3.americanprogressaction.org/e/er.aspx?s=785&lid=7707&elq=4...

>>she inexplicably claimed that the bailout is needed to "help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy,"

she really screwed up. She should have stuck `fungible' in there somewhere.

in case you are sure what fungible means...

here's one of the definitions:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fungible

Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law -
Main Entry: fungible
Function: noun
: something that is fungible

I hope this clears up any confusion...

Maybe Sarah didn't mean fungible...

maybe she meant fudge-cicle?

fudgecicle is one of those words that looks wrong no matter how it is spelled.

Hundreds of people remain missing three weeks after Ike's assault on Texas. Local and city officials are no longer keeping their own count of missing residents, and the estimate varies wildly from one agency to another. - Many who stayed died in Ike's fury

Why is the NY Times continuing to ignore McCain's "own Bill Ayer
Submitted by Kevin © on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 5:10pm
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Liddy is just one of McCain's controversial adviser's. But what about this guy Richard Quinn?

MEDIA HYPOCRISY: McCain's Crazy Adviser

Since everyone seems to think guilt-by-association is fair game in 2008, it's time to focus on McCain's friends. Here someone the mouthfoamers (this the term I give to those that are irrationally outraged by the Obama's ties to Rev. Wright, all despite Obama doing nothing but denouncing Wright's out-there statements) keep ignoring: RICHARD QUINN.

Among Richard Quinn's many insane endeavors, he has published racist writings opposing Martin Luther King Jr (did you know: King is why blacks are lazy?), he rooted for KKK presidential candidate David Duke (who Quinn calls the original maverick), and seems to celebrate the murder of President Lincoln (you know, because he let all those slaves get free). Worse, those are just his words; his magazine the "Southern Confederate" supposedly has way more racist stuff (imagine that, a magazine called the Southern Confederate having racist stuff in it).

So here's the thing: all of Quinn's racism was public knowledge (reported by the New Republic, NYT and Newsday) back in 2000. This never stopped McCain. In fact, back in 2000, as this was started to filter out, this scumbag and some racist buddies got dressed up in Confederacy military uniforms to pass out literature in South Carolina, explaining McCain was all for the confederate flag (of course, the sleazeball McCain has flip-flopped on that position, since losing that election). Now that is dedication; someone McCain can truly call "my friend."

Okay, but that was back in 2000. McCain, with the heightened media scrutiny, couldn't possibly have a nut like this as part of his campaign, right? I mean, the media would have trashed him by now if he had not disowned this guy, right? WRONG! In 2008, McCain is still paying Richard Quinn's consulting firm thousands of dollars.

So here's a guess: prior to this, nobody had heard of this racist that John McCain describes as a "fine man" and pays to help his campaign, right?

Way to go liberal media! Maybe when they get over Rev. Wright we will hear more about Richard Quinn, Rod Parsley, John Haggee (okay, I did hear him brought up like twice), Charles Keeting, Terry Nelson and the rest of the goons that McCain considers "my friends."

http://thechiefsource.com/2008/05/media-hypocrisy-mccains-crazy-advisor....

Canadians agree with Barack Obama over NAFTA.

http://www.canadians.org/media/trade/2008/26-Sep-08.html

61% of Canadians agree that NAFTA should be renegociated.

The conservative Harper is not saying much about the new free trade agreement that McCain pushes because he knows that it is very unpopular. The sad part is that the conservative have good chances of winning the election and they are strong supporter of Bush and McCain's views on NAFTA and the new free trade agreement.

The conservative may win at the elections on October 14th because the votes are split up. Most people in Québec dislike the conservatives but they might be able to get enough ridings to win.

The Bloc Québécois is likely to win a majority in Québec. It will be a 2 way vote between the Bloc Québécois and liberal party in the Montréal area and between the conservative and Bloc Québécois in the rest of the province.
In Ontario it will be a 3 way fight between the Conservative, liberal and NDP.
In the Atlantic it is likely to be a mix liberal, conservative and NDP.
In the far west and midwest it is likely to be conservative.
Ontario will decide who wins.

It is very likely that the conservative will win and it is possible that the Bloc Québécois be the official opposition.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/wbradwanski

Back in the days of Mulroney (Old Bush's buddy), the conservative were wiped out of the map in Québec because they tried to get Québec to ratify the Canadian constitution with some bullshit agreement that would screw them over. The conservatives were replaced by the Bloc Québécois, a party working for the Québec independance.
The federal liberal party has had no chance of winning any election in Québec for a long time, largely due to the military occupation of Montréal in 1970. Many Americans are unaware of these days. In order to catch a handfull of terrorists who had kidnapped a British diplomat and a crooked Québec politicians later on murdered the federal liberal government declared martial law and hundreds of innocent people ended up in prison. The criteria to be a suspected terrorist was to have long hair and speak French and be on the street after dark. If you were member of the MSA or Parti Québécois you were also on the suspected terrorist list.

The funny part on the liberal side was that they elected Dion as the leader thinking that it would get them votes in Québec because Dion is French. It baffled a lot of people since he is hated with a passion by many. Dion is an immigrant from France who has never had anything good to say about French Canadians from Québec.
If he manages to get elected it will be by accident without support from French Canadians from Québec. This would be kind of amusing.

Canadian Immigration Problems

"A flood of American liberals sneaking across the border into Canada has intensified in the past week, sparking calls for increased patrols to stop the illegal immigration.

The possibility of a McCain/Palin election is prompting the exodus among left-leaning citizens who fear they’ll soon be required to hunt, pray, and agree with Bill O’Reilly.

Canadian border farmers say it’s not uncommon to see dozens of sociology professors, animal rights activists, tree huggers, and Unitarians crossing their fields at night. “I went out to milk the cows the other day, and there was a Hollywood producer huddled in the barn”, said Manitoba farmer Red Greenfield, whose acreage borders North Dakota. The producer was cold, exhausted and hungry. ‘He asked me if I could spare a latte and some free-range chicken. When I said I didn’t have any, he left. Didn’t even get a chance to show him my screenplay, eh?’

In an effort to stop the illegal aliens, Greenfield erected higher fences, but the liberals scaled them. So he tried installing speakers that blare Rush Limbaugh across the fields. ‘Not real effective,’ he said. ‘The liberals still got through, and Rush annoyed the cows so much they wouldn’t give milk.’

Officials are particularly concerned about smugglers who meet liberals near the Canadian border, pack them into Volvo station wagons, drive them across the border and leave them to fend for themselves. ‘A lot of these people are not prepared for rugged conditions,’ an Ontario border patrolman said. ‘I found one carload without a drop of drinking water. ‘They did have a nice little Napa Valley cabernet, though.’

When liberals are caught, they’re sent back across the border, often wailing loudly that they fear retribution from conservatives. Rumors have been circulating about the McCain administration establishing re-education camps in which liberals will be forced to shoot wolves from airplanes, deny evolution, and act out drills preparing them for the Rapture.

In recent days, liberals have turned to sometimes-ingenious ways of crossing the border. Some have taken to posing as senior citizens on bus trips to buy cheap Canadian prescription drugs. After catching a half-dozen young vegans disguised in powdered wigs, Canadian immigration authorities began stopping buses and quizzing the supposed senior-citizen passengers on Perry Como and Rosemary Clooney hits to prove they were alive in the ’50s. ‘If they can’t identify the accordion player on The Lawrence Welk Show, we get suspicious about their age,’ an official said. Canadian citizens have complained that the illegal immigrants are creating an organic-broccoli shortage and renting all the good Susan Sarandon movies.

‘I feel sorry for American liberals, but the Canadian economy just can’t support them,’ an Ottawa resident said. ‘How many art-history and English majors does one country need?"

Another controversial McCain Associate

Top McCain Aide Sponsors Ritual To Attack Christianity

Progressive author John Gorenfeld recently released a book exposing the unsavory ties between the GOP and billionaire, Washington Times Publisher (and convicted tax cheat) Reverend Sun Myung Moon. In his book, Bad Moon Rising, Gorenfeld shows the relationship between many in the Republican hierarchy, including the Bush clan, and a man who has often been charged with being a leader of a cult.

What is beyond question, however, is that a high-ranking McCain Campaign official, Charlie Black, has planned ceremonies for Moon to be crowned "King Of America," and Moon has had damning things to say about the Christian faith.

First from an email chain between Gorenfeld and Black:

Progressive author John Gorenfeld recently released a book exposing the unsavory ties between the GOP and billionaire, Washington Times Publisher (and convicted tax cheat) Reverend Sun Myung Moon. In his book, Bad Moon Rising, Gorenfeld shows the relationship between many in the Republican hierarchy, including the Bush clan, and a man who has often been charged with being a leader of a cult.

What is beyond question, however, is that a high-ranking McCain Campaign official, Charlie Black, has planned ceremonies for Moon to be crowned "King Of America," and Moon has had damning things to say about the Christian faith.

First from an email chain between Gorenfeld and Black:

From: John Gorenfeld

To:"CHARLIE BLACK"
cc:
Subject: Re: Moon event at Dirksen Senate Office Building, 3/23

05/06/2004 09:31 PM

Dear Mr. Black,

Thanks for your reply.

It's kind of an amazing event, with Moon being coronated as the king and declaring himself the Messiah at a federal building. Can you tell me how you got involved with inviting people? Is this an annual event, or just a one-time thing?

sincerely,

John

On Apr 28, 2004, at 10:34 AM, CHARLIE BLACK wrote:

John,

I lent my name and sent invitations to a few friends. Unfortunately, I had a conflict and couldn't go to the event.

Charlie

http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2008/05/09/top-mccain-aide-sponsors-...

>>Canadian Immigration Problems

if this isn't an original post you should give a link or a source...you are flirting with plagiarism, Jim!

Palin Around with Traitors
Sarah Palin is accusing Barack Obama of "palling around with terrorists." But isn't her husband a former member of a political party which has treason against the United States as its central tenet?

Answer: yes.

--Josh Marshall

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/palins_attack_on...

What out there statements? Do I think the CIA spread AIDS in East La? No.
But, what I thought was the most pathetic aspect of that whole six week period of MSM 24/7 Wright nonsense, was that not one network produced even one hour long documentary about documented cases of our government waging biological or chemical warfare on marginalized US citizens.

>>documented cases of our government waging biological or chemical warfare on marginalized US citizens.

???

if you are talking about using pepper spray, this sort of hyperbole convinces no one...it may be useful for rousing the already converted rabble, but it just sounds like loonie-leftie stuff to most folk.

It is best to establish the facts, first and then crystallize them into flaming rhetoric like "waging biological or chemical warfare on marginalized US citizens." later.

otherwise, people won't know what you're talking about and they'll walk away thinking you're nuts.

CNN Bill Bennet

I felt it was a very interesting view for how the right works on guilt.

and if you weren't refering to pepper-spray, please educate me.

terrorists hate us for our freedoms and our respect for womens rights.

Was she refering to the right of a woman to vote? Is she a suffraget now?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/04/palin.obama/?iref=mpstoryview

Palin hits Obama for 'terrorist' connection

ENGLEWOOD, Colorado (CNN) -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin on Saturday slammed Sen. Barack Obama's political relationship with a former anti-war radical, accusing him of associating "with terrorists who targeted their own country."...
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This is a prime example of the kind of stuff that I perceive to be influencing Letterman's new-found unwillingness to make nice with political stupidness.

There is not a shadow of a doubt in my mind that Palin knows not squat nor cares a whit about the anti-war movement and organizations during the 60's.

The Weatherman made an effort to not harm anyone, although three of their own died in a premature detonation.

Contrast their "terrorism" with the Kent State murders at the hand of our government and Nixon's "Enemies List" which, ironically, included Paul Newman and involved the extensive illegal use of several governmental agencies in an attempt to discredit, jail, bankrupt or deport whomever the Trickster's paranoia targeted.

At best, Palin learned about one or two anti-war organizations in school and it is doubtful that her education would have given the subject more than a cursory synopsis.

I lived my grade school years and high school years wondering if I would meet my end in Vietnam. I know more about the Vietnam era than Palin does about "snow machines."

Having Palin spew her politically-driven pap at me is beyond insulting. I'll turn to her for advice if I need to know how to properly adjust a pageant sash.

Someone should ask her what she thinks of Barry Freed. I have a hundred bucks that says she would be staring into the headlights once again.

Palin: "What aspect of Barry Freed?"

Bait: "All of them. Like, for instance, what is his other name?"

The only aspect of the political mudslinging that bothers me more than its disingenuousness is the Christian banner that Palin (and others) fly while they fake their outrage.

Christians, last I checked, are supposed to avoid being lying sacks of shit who libel their neighbors for personal gain.

There is no proof either way because no one has been caught yet about experiments in the USA. Wright might be getting this out of his ass and then he might not. An inquiry might be necessary to clarify this.

The only experiments documented were those made in Québec by the CIA and Canadian governments.
The CIA has been paying compensation on some citizens while some other refused and want their day in court. The Canadian and USA governments are trying to shut them up.

http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=76291&sid=654e9f37...

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/cbc1.htm
http://archives.cbc.ca/society/youth/topics/1633/
http://hamptonroads.com/2008/01/duplessis-orphans

For those unaware of the story you might want to read a bit. The ones being experimented on were people in mental institutions. People in mental institutions in the 40s to the 60s were people with mental problems, kids born out of wedlock and orphans. Those last two groups were put in the institutions by the catholic church. So if you wonder why French Canadians do not practice religion stop wondering.

Those who think that only the church was involved here are seriously mistaken.

>>Keith Oberman had a lot of fun with this last night of Countdown, too.

For anybody that's not following this conversation, everybody 8-), and for those that don't get cable and don't want to wait for clips to appear on youtube, here's a link to msnbc countdown Olberman on Lowry:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#27015683

The "sexual" buzz behind the veep pick, on the heels of the Craig, Foley, etc is genuinely creepy.

More McCain Sleaze Coming ...
From WaPo ...

Sen. John McCain and his Republican allies are readying a newly aggressive assault on Sen. Barack Obama's character, believing that to win in November they must shift the conversation back to questions about the Democrat's judgment, honesty and personal associations, several top Republicans said.
With just a month to go until Election Day, McCain's team has decided that its emphasis on the senator's biography as a war hero, experienced lawmaker and straight-talking maverick is insufficient to close a growing gap with Obama. The Arizonan's campaign is also eager to move the conversation away from the economy, an issue that strongly favors Obama and has helped him to a lead in many recent polls.

"We're going to get a little tougher," a senior Republican operative said, indicating that a fresh batch of television ads is coming. "We've got to question this guy's associations. Very soon. There's no question that we have to change the subject here," said the operative, who was not authorized to discuss strategy and spoke on the condition of anonymity.

--Josh Marshall

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/03/AR200810...

Palin's Attack On Obama's Patriotism Legitimizes Questions About The Palins' Association With Group Founded By America-Hating Secessionist
By Greg Sargent - October 4, 2008, 4:55PM
Sarah Palin attacked Obama's patriotism today over his association with former Weatherman Bill Ayers -- a move that makes it perfectly legitimate to raise questions about the Palins' associations with a group founded by an Alaska secessionist who once professed his "hatred for the American government" and cursed our "damn flag."

In Colorado today, Palin seized on the big front-page New York Times story about Ayers and Obama, which concludes that the two men "do not appear to have been close," to launch her most vicious attack yet on the Illinois Senator -- a harbinger of what's to come.

"This is not a man who sees America as you and I do -- as the greatest force for good in the world," Palin said. "This is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country."

If Palin is going to say this, it is now perfectly legitimate to point out that she repeatedly courted a secessionist group founded by someone who openly professed hatred of the American government, cursed our flag, and wanted to secede from the Union. Sarah's husband, Todd Palin, was a member of this group, which continues to venerate that founder to this day, for years.

Read more »

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/palins_attack_on...

More McCain Sleaze Coming
Submitted by toniD on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 9:53pm.
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The behinder you get, the sleazier you become.

It's a rule or a law or something. Whatever the case, you can take it to the bank. (I'll leave "which bank?" up to you.)

Morning Call Poll: Obama Opens Wide Lead in Pennsylvania
The latest Morning Call/Muhlenberg College tracking poll in Pennsylvania shows Sen. Barack Obama leading Sen. John McCain, 51% to 39%.

Obama's overall lead in the poll has increased from 4 points to 12 points in the last nine days.

http://www.mcall.com/news/elections/local/all-a4_5poll.6616108oct04,0,38...

Quote of the Day
"I'm a maverick and I may not answer the questions tonight."

-- NBC News anchor Brian Williams, on the Late Show with David Letterman.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/04/brian-williams-on-the-lat_n_131...

Rasmussen: Obama Ahead in Nevada
A new Rasmussen survey in Nevada shows Sen. Barack Obama leading Sen. John McCain, 51% to 47%.

Last month, McCain led by three points in the state.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2...

Edwards: Passion for health reform keeps me going By JOCELYN NOVECK, AP National Writer
1 hour, 13 minutes ago

NEW YORK - Elizabeth Edwards said Saturday that her passion for reforming the nation's health care system has been "a great refuge" for her during the recent turmoil over her husband's extramarital affair.

Edwards, who has incurable breast cancer, also said medical tests this week showed that her condition hadn't worsened since March of 2007, when she and her husband, former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, announced her cancer had returned and spread to her bones.

Edwards was interviewed at the New Yorker Festival by medical writer and surgeon Atul Gawande, who asked how she was managing to continue speaking out publicly on health care, given the turmoil in her personal life.

"Partly by plowing through, like I intend to do with your question, as well," she said, to laughter and applause from the audience.

"The ability to speak out doesn't require a particular skill. It requires one thing — passion about what you believe in. And that passion has been a really great refuge for me," she said.

On her medical condition, Edwards said doctors don't believe the cancer has spread to her lungs or her liver.

"It hasn't really changed since March 2007," she said of her condition. "Then they gave me five years, so if I had five years then, I have five years now, and if I can just keep that up ..." The crowd interrupted her with laughter.

Edwards ruefully described a day recently when was having unrelated stomach troubles, and said that when she checked a Google alert she has set up for her name, she read that she had been sick.

"It would really be nice to be able to throw up without having it appear in the Google alerts," she joked.

Edwards returned to the public stage only recently after her husband's affair became public in August. She made clear Saturday that she intends to continue speaking publicly against the health care policies of Republican presidential nominee John McCain. She fervently supports mandatory universal health coverage, while McCain supports free-market policies and a tax break to help drive down the cost of care.

Edwards, who declined to speak to reporters after the event, referred to her husband only glancingly on Saturday, as she described helping him put together his health care proposal. John Edwards hasn't held any public events since acknowledging an affair with a woman hired to produce videos of him in 2006. He has canceled all appearances until after the election.

After Saturday's discussion of health care, Edwards was asked by a young admirer in the audience what a typical day was like for her. She responded with a list of activities focused on her young kids, Jack and Emma Claire, that sounded like the day of any typical suburban mom.

"Yesterday we had a baseball game," she said, describing how Jack had made a particularly good play. "Emma Claire had dance class. Tomorrow is a Cub Scout hike. My life looks a lot like the lives of other mothers around this country — except when I get up at 6 a.m. and fly to New York for the day."

The festival is a weekend of panels and talks at venues around the city organized by the New Yorker magazine.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081005/ap_on_re_us/elizabeth_edwards

toniD,

What is the minimum popular vote spread that constitutes a "landslide?"

What is the minimum electoral vote spread that constitutes a "landslide?"

I have no idea. Elections have been close in recent years, so I suppose that a "landslide" is less of a spread than it once was.

But still, I have no idea.

Can someone in Washington tell Citi to go to hell?
Chris in Paris · 10/04/2008 10:14:00 PM ET · Link

Is that asking for too much? The idea of another mega-merger in the US banking industry is hardly attractive in my mind but when given the choice of taxpayer money helping troubled Citi (with over $40 billion in subprime write downs) buy Wachovia or Wells Fargo, who wants to do the deal without taxpayer financing, it's pretty simple. If Citi has enough cash to throw around fighting in court so taxpayers can fund their business then there's a problem here. If only Citi would have focused more on core banking instead of funny money for Charles Prince they wouldn't be in this position today. Citi has lost all common sense and direction if they think anyone is going to be sympathetic to their complaints. Especially since it's everyone else who will foot the bill.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/27013718

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But I have no idea. Lets ask google!

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Title: Re:What constitutes a landslide victory?
Post by: Demrepdan on November 06, 2003, 09:27:55 pm
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Allow me to throw in my two cents. From what I've read, in political science books and history text books, a landslide victory is, as stated earlier, 60%. Although many consider a majority of 55% to be a "solid win" or a "safe seat". I suppose in a Presidential election, you must throw in the popular vote AND the electoral vote majority. Since the Presidential election is, of course, not decided by popular vote, you would think you would just go by the electoral votes only, however I still feel popular vote plays an important part in the election.

There are a bunch of people weighing in on this question at the link.

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=printpage;topic=34.0

Submitted by toniD on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 10:31pm.
Lets ask google!
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I tried that before I asked.

Wiki has the biggest spreads in the modern era but no clear definition of what the minimum would be. It looks like a landslide is whatever you want it to be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landslide_victory

The greatest modern landslides in the United States Presidential elections

1920 - the greatest percentage point margin in the popular vote (Harding 60.3% to Cox 34.1%).
1936 - the greatest electoral votes difference between winner and opponent (Roosevelt 523 to Landon 8).
1964 - the highest percentage for winner (Lyndon Johnson 61.1%).
1984 - the highest number of electoral votes (Reagan 525).

landslide (victory) noun
a clear victory in an election

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/landslide

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Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This
land·slide

–noun
1. the downward falling or sliding of a mass of soil, detritus, or rock on or from a steep slope.
2. the mass itself.
3. an election in which a particular victorious candidate or party receives an overwhelming mass or majority of votes: the 1936 landslide for Roosevelt.
4. any overwhelming victory: She won the contest by a landslide.
–verb (used without object)
5. to come down in or as in a landslide.
6. to win an election by an overwhelming majority.
Also called, especially British, land·slip Audio Help /ˈlændˌslɪp/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[land-slip] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation (for defs. 1, 2).

[Origin: 1830–40, Americanism; land + slide]
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
American Heritage Dictionary
n.

1.
1. The downward sliding of a relatively dry mass of earth and rock.
2. The mass that slides. Also called landslip.
3. An overwhelming majority of votes for a political party or candidate.
4. An election that sweeps a party or candidate into office.
2.
1. An overwhelming majority of votes for a political party or candidate.
2. An election that sweeps a party or candidate into office.
3. A great victory.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

landslide
1856, Amer.Eng., from land (n.) + slide. Earlier was landslip (1679), still preferred in Britain. In the political sense, landslide "lopsided electoral victory" is attested from 1888.

Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper
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landslide

noun
1. an overwhelming electoral victory; "Roosevelt defeated Hoover in a landslide"
2. a slide of a large mass of dirt and rock down a mountain or cliff

the only question left...

will it be an Obama landslide, or an Obama landslip?

One claim states that a 60% popular vote in a two-candidate race is a landslide because 60 is 150% of 40.

It sounds reasonable for no particular reason.

Submitted by Chubby Bubba on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 10:55pm.
the only question left...

will it be an Obama landslide, or an Obama landslip?
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Or a "decisive victory?"

Isn't any victory decisive? I mean, isn't that why it's called a victory and not, say, a tie?

(Insert joke here.)

If you are going to have a landslide, you need a juggernaut.

(...)After the debate, Republicans who had been bailing on Palin rushed back to the fold. They know her relentless ambition is the only hope for saving a ticket headed by a warrior who is out of juice and out of ideas. So what if she is preposterously unprepared to run the country in the midst of its greatest economic crisis in 70 years? She looks and sounds like a winner.

You can understand why they believe that. She has more testosterone than anyone else at the top of her party. McCain and his surrogates are forever blaming their travails on others, wailing about supposed sexist and journalistic biases around the clock. McCain even canceled an interview with Larry King, for heaven’s sake, in a fit of pique at a CNN anchor, Campbell Brown.

We are not a nation of whiners, as Phil Gramm would have it, but the G.O.P. is now the party of whiners. That rebranding became official when Republican House leaders moaned that a routine partisan speech by Nancy Pelosi had turned their members against the bailout bill. As the stock market fell nearly 778 points, Barney Frank taunted his G.O.P. peers with pitch-perfect mockery: “Somebody hurt my feelings, so I will punish the country!”

Talk about the world coming full circle. This is the same Democrat who had been slurred as “Barney Fag” in the mid-1990s by Dick Armey, a House leader of the government-bashing Gingrich revolution that helped lower us into this debacle. Now Frank was ridiculing the House G.O.P. as a bunch of sulking teenage girls. His wisecrack stung — and stuck.

Palin is an antidote to the whiny Republican image that Frank nailed. Alaska’s self-styled embodiment of Joe Sixpack is not a sulker, but a pistol-packing fighter. That’s why she draws the crowds and (as she puts it) “energy” that otherwise elude the angry McCain. But she is still the candidate for vice president, not president. Americans do not vote for vice president.

So how can a desperate G.O.P. save itself? As McCain continues to fade into incoherence and irrelevance, the last hope is that he’ll come up with some new game-changing stunt to match his initial pick of Palin or his ill-fated campaign “suspension.” Until Thursday night, more than a few Republicans were fantasizing that his final Hail Mary pass would be to ditch Palin so she can “spend more time” with her ever-growing family. But the debate reminded Republicans once again that it’s Palin, not McCain, who is their last hope for victory.

You have to wonder how long it will be before they plead with him to think of his health, get out of the way and pull the ultimate stunt of flipping the ticket. Palin, we can be certain, wouldn’t even blink.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/opinion/05rich.html?_r=1&pagewanted=pr...

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There’s that word again: maverick. In Thursday’s vice-presidential debate, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, the Republican candidate, used it to describe herself and her running mate, Senator John McCain, no fewer than six times, at one point calling him “the consummate maverick.”

But to those who know the history of the word, applying it to Mr. McCain is a bit of a stretch — and to one Texas family in particular it is even a bit offensive. - NYT

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