Crap Storm

The economic Tsunami rages on, McCain makes the mistake of raising "associations"... like something like this?

Show livetoday at 3pm here. .

First?

Wow!

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I Will Not Obsess! I Will Not Obsess! I Will Not Obsess!

Saudis see the writing on the wall

LONDON, England (CNN) -- Taliban leaders are holding Saudi-brokered talks with the Afghan government to end the country's bloody conflict -- and are severing their ties with al Qaeda, sources close to the historic discussions have told CNN. - CNN

Sox

Rough night for Beckett. Lester this evening though, should be another good game.

Email them to The Networks,Cable & Newspapers....

Submitted by MMRules on Mon, 10/06/2008 - 11:37am.
Time to put some Haggee Vids up!
Submitted by dan on Mon, 10/06/2008 - 11:25am.
while we're at it, we need some more airtime of palin's church. throw in some endtimes clips just for fun.
*******

Maybe,if they get bombarded by Hagee,Keating 5 & Palin's Be gone witch Vids and stories they will have to look at them..

And,Hopefully Start Doing Some Friggin Reporting ! :)

It can't hurt..Might help..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Hello Good Folken

Well I did it, plunged right in. Tommorow at 9am I have to go down and take what is called the TABE test; it's supposed to be basic Math, Science etc.

I have to do so in order for the WV Works program to pay for the 2 year culinary program at the Community College.

My heart is beating out of my chest! I am so nervous..... 3 years ago a test like this would not even sweat me in the least.

But I reckon if I can do 3.5 years of the Bio/ Bio Ed. program at a State College and maintain a 3.4 amidst tragedies in the Family, I should be able to do this.

But my mental fortitude has declined seriously during this period of idleness.

Listen to this shit: The place I go for psych treatment won't give me the medication I need until I show them I am registered. WTF is up with that.

Don't they realize that there is alot of steps to getting registered and getting the finances situated?

I just don't understand.

Cool Bob..

Good luck ! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

ok, thanks for the new thread

from previous thread "McCain says Wright off limits"
mcCain lies and everyone knows it. These people will do anything to hold power.

Will the real Barack Obama please stand up !?!

Well here we go.

We get to take a look behind the Obama mask.

This is gonna be fun.

You knew it was gonna happen.

28 day is a lot of time to see who Barack really is.

This is Obama's big nightmare.

this keating documentary supposed to be

streaming live right now but i haven't been able to get it - i get the teaser youtube replay and now a bunch of downloads - but not the live video

what about you? having better luck?

listening to GritTv

fabulous

Go Bob! How exciting..! Good luck - you will do great!



Thanks MM

God willing all will work out!

I just know at the moment I have got to get calmed down.... I'm about to slide into a panik attack or some shizzle. eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That don't look like me ALice

:)

I'm ALOT more handsome than that. ;)

hee hee

Good for you Bob!

Don't worry so much! Relax. You have the knowlege.

Good Luck!

The article linked is a must read...

Seniors aren't going to be happy with this....
new
Submitted by toniD on Mon, 10/06/2008 - 11:52am.
McCain's Other Shoe Drops
Faced with health care plan numbers that didn't add up, McCain's economics advisor Douglas Holtz-Eakin has just announced that McCain will make up the difference with big cuts to Medicare. I guess they really are writing off Florida.

--Josh Marshall

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/10/06/mccain-i-m-n...

BBIALW

gonna run the sweeper and stuff. I'll try to get calmed down and listen to the show at 3, that should be relaxing. :)

Obama new Liberal Progressive Platform.

Obama new Liberal Progressive Platform.

1. Leave tax cuts for the rich in place.

2. Lower taxes even more to stimulate the economy.

3. Escalate the War in Afghanistan by send more U.S. troops.

4. Spend the next four years following the Bush plan to transfer power in Iraq.

5. Make plans to invade Pakistan.

6. Enter a nuclear stand-off with Iran taking the world back to the days of Mutually Assured Destruction.

7. Fight to keep the economy out of the Obama Economic Depression.

8. Support and expand FISA in hopes of stopping the next terrorist attack on the United States on his watch.

9. Force people to pay for Health Care Insurance by taking the money out of their paychecks up front.

McCain now saying Keating

McCain now saying Keating Five scandal was a Democratic plot against him
John Aravosis (DC) · 10/06/2008 12:16:00 PM ET · Link
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I'm listening to the McCain campaign conference call about John McCain's involvement in the Keating Five scandal. McCain's lawyer just said that the Keating Five investigation was "political" as it concerned John McCain. He shouldn't even have been admonished by the Senate, his lawyer says. This opens up the entire question of McCain's supposed contrition. If McCain thinks he did nothing wrong, and that it was wrong for the Senate to scold him for his actions during the Keating Five Scandal, then he isn't contrite at all, he isn't sorry at all. He's learned nothing. You can't turn a new leaf when you don't think you did anything wrong. This is one hell of an admission. Get more on the Keating Five Scandal at the new Obama campaign Web site, KeatingEconomics.com And here is the Obama campaign's new documentary about McCain's involvement in this ethics scandal:

http://www.keatingeconomics.com/

Be patient

There are alot of people trying to view the video right now and it is taking a long time to load.

The higher Obama rises in the polls

The higher Obama rises in the polls the farther the Stock Market sinks.

I see that the rest of my conservative Republican brethren are doing what I did long ago.

Abandoning the stock market for assured, safe, or tax free investments.

Everyone knows what the Democrats try to do with other peoples cash.

Until Obama shows he can be trusted, the smart money is going to be protected not invested.

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Another great debate tomorrow.

Another great debate tomorrow.

But this one might get a bit ugly.

Obama is really fighting to keep folks from looking at his past.

But it was bound to happen.

Richard Fuld of Lehman

opening statement now.

Your going to hear alot of garbage now.

Dow -491.58

Bushonomics in action.

What about that Make Believe Maverick piece in the current Rolling Stone? I hate to say it but McCain makes Bush look like a well behaved child. You'll want to save the link below. Although the article is well written, McNasty has pulled so much shit over the years the article is really long.

Link to Article
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McCain's Epitaph? From the

McCain's Epitaph?
From the NY Daily News ...

McCain's course correction reflects a growing case of nerves within his high command as the electoral map has shifted significantly in Obama's favor in the past two weeks.
"It's a dangerous road, but we have no choice," a top McCain strategist told the Daily News. "If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we're going to lose."

--Josh Marshall
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/10/05/2008-10-05_insults_f...

Poll: Big Lead for Obama in

Poll: Big Lead for Obama in Virginia
Suffolk University just released a new poll giving Obama a 12-point lead in Virginia, 51-39.

http://www.suffolk.edu/research/31216.html

Here are the other latest Virginia polls, none showing that wide of a gap.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/vapres/

Late Update: Survey USA has just released new swing state polls, and it has Obama up 10 in Virginia.

--David Kurtz

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportPopup.aspx?g=00f2d8fb-6a3b-425...

McCain's Health Plan Would

McCain's Health Plan Would Slash Medicare
McCain adviser Douglas Holtz-Eakin tells the Wall St. Journal that McCain would pay for the tax credits in his health plan with deep cuts in Medicare and Medicaid.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122315505846605217.html

McCain Camp Previously Suggested Financing Through Taxes

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122315505846605217.html

McCain Health Adviser: The Emergency Room Is As Good As Insurance

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/mccain_advisor_e...

What McCain won't mention about his early release offer...

..from the POW camp.

What McCain glosses over is that accepting early release would have required him to make disloyal statements that would have violated the military's Code of Conduct. If he had done so, he could have risked court-martial and an ignominious end to his military career. "Many of us were given this offer," according to Butler, McCain's classmate who was also taken prisoner. "It meant speaking out against your country and lying about your treatment to the press. You had to 'admit' that the U.S. was criminal and that our treatment was 'lenient and humane.' So I, like numerous others, refused the offer.

So he really had no choice at all. It was the same offer given to all the POW's. From now on he McNoShame to me.


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McCain campaign: Keating

McCain campaign: Keating Five investigation was 'a political smear job' on John McCain
John Aravosis (DC) · 10/06/2008 12:16:00 PM ET · Link

Holy crap.

I'm listening to the McCain campaign conference call about John McCain's involvement in the Keating Five scandal. McCain's lawyer just said that the Keating Five investigation was "political" as it concerned John McCain. He shouldn't even have been admonished by the Senate, his lawyer says.

Then McCain's lawyer dropped the real bomb.

The Keating Five Investigation was "a political smear job on John [McCain]." WTF? He called Howell Heflin, who led the hearings, a "stooge" of the Democratic machine out to get poor, innocent John McCain.

This opens up the entire question of McCain's supposed contrition. If McCain thinks he did nothing wrong, and that it was wrong for the Senate to scold him for his actions during the Keating Five Scandal, then he isn't contrite at all, he isn't sorry at all. He's learned nothing. You can't turn a new leaf when you don't think you did anything wrong. This is one hell of an admission.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/lawyer_defending...

Retired Admiral Hits Back At

Retired Admiral Hits Back At McCain's Attack On Obama As "Dangerous"
By Greg Sargent - October 6, 2008, 11:26AM
The Obama campaign rolls out a military man, John Natham, who retired as a four-star admiral after four decades in the Navy, to respond to McCain's adver-sleazement hitting Obama as "dangerous" and "dishonorable to our troops":

"As a recently retired Admiral, I know who has the strongest record of supporting the men and women currently serving in our military. Senator Obama has consistently voted to fund our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq and, just as importantly, a proven record of support when they return home. That's why independent veterans organizations give Senator Obama higher marks than Senator McCain. Despite consistent distortions of his record, thousands of veterans like myself support Senator Obama because he has the judgment, character and integrity to be a great president. We will need a great president to lead us in these very challenging times."

With McCain telegraphing a coming assault on Obama's fitness to be president, you've got to think we'll be seeing more retired military brass attesting not just to Obama's judgment and support for vets, but to his readiness to serve as commander in chief.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/election_central...

i'm surprised that mcbush came back fighting

right away on the keating five. it indicates it worries them more than they would want you to believe.

>>"Many of us were given

>>"Many of us were given this offer," according to Butler, McCain's classmate who was also taken prisoner. "It meant speaking out against your country and lying about your treatment to the press. You had to 'admit' that the U.S. was criminal and that our treatment was 'lenient and humane.' So I, like numerous others, refused the offer.

This just goes to prove what a maverick McCain really is!

When all the others refused to denounce America, McCain broke free of the herd mentality and gave the North Vietnamese the straight talk they wanted!!

"a political smear job"

I love that! Countdown to how McCain has to explain how, exactly, it was a "political smear job" when the other 4 of the Keating 5 were Democrats.

They are truly fucked if this is their comeback! Lol!

Even War Dog is a better liar than that!

Deep Thought(s)

Nevermind, FLA....I wonder how "We'll Cut Medicare" is going to play in Arizona.

Oh, and I wonder which demographic is going to remember the nightmare of the Keating 5 more.

151 Congressmen Derive Financial Profit From War

According to the latest reports, 151 members of Congress invested close to a quarter-billion in companies that received defense contracts of at least $5 million in 2006. These companies got more than $275.6 billion from the government in 2006, or $755 million per day, according to FedSpending.org, a website of the watchdog group OMBWatch.

Congressmen gave themselves a loophole so they only have to report their assets in broad ranges. Thus, they can be off as much as 160 percent. (Try giving the IRS an estimate like that.) In 2004, the first full year after the present Iraq war began, Republican and Democratic lawmakers—both hawks and doves—invested between $74.9 million and $161.3 million in companies under contract with the DoD. In 2006 Democrats had at least $3.7 million invested in the defense sector alone, compared to the Republicans’ “only” $577,500. As the war raged on, so did the billions of profits—and personal investments by Congress members in war contractors, which increased 5 percent from 2004 to 2006.

Investments in these contractors yielded Congress members between $15.8 million and $62 million in personal income from 2004 through 2006, through dividends, capital gains, royalties and interest. Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) and Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.), who are two of Congress’s wealthiest members, were among the lawmakers who garnered the most income from war contractors between 2004 and 2006: Sensenbrenner got at least $3.2 million and Kerry reaped at least $2.6 million.

Members of the Senate Foreign Relations and Armed Services committees which oversee the Iraq war had between $32 million and $44 million invested in companies with DoD contracts.

War hawk Sen. Joe Lieberman (IConn.), chairman of the defense-related
Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, had at least $51,000 invested in these companies in 2006.

Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.), who voted for Bush’s war, had stock in defense companies, such as Honeywell, Boeing and Raytheon, but sold the stock in May 2007.

Of the 151 members whose investments are tied to the “defense” (war)
industry, as far as we know, not one of them offered to donate their bloodstained profits to the national treasury to offset the terrible debt they have imposed. Has one of them even offered to donate one cent of their war profits to lessen the debt that increases more than $1 million a minute?
...

� Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) $3,001,006 to $5,015,001
� Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) $250,001 to $500,000
� Rep. Kenny Ewell Marchant (R-Tex.) $162,074 to $162,074
� Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney (D-N.Y.) $115,002 to $300,000
� Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen (R-N.J.) $115,002 to $300,000
� Rep. Shelley Berkley (D-Nev.) $100,870 to $100,870
� Rep. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.) $65,646 to $65,646
� Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.) $50,008 to $227,000
� Rep. Sam Farr (D-Calif.) $50,001 to $100,000
� Rep. Stephen Ira Cohen (D-Tenn.) $45,003 to $150,000

[The written article says that more Reps are profiting, but the Dems have invested more money of the two parties]

Associate this--

Virginia SurveyUSA Obama 53, McCain 43 Obama +10

Virginia Suffolk Obama 51, McCain 39 Obama +12

Game over.

Oh I almost forgot:
Cal Bears 24 Arizona State 14 Cal 4-1 (2-0)

morning

Ok, the fish was only this big, but it was still my best moment.

==
looking at keating this am
I can see how it is easy to go down the rabbit hole like this guy.

~`~`~`~`~`~
Jamesbennett

Palins Taxes debunked....

Tax Profs Agree: Gov. Palin's Tax Returns Are Wrong
Jack Bogdanski (Lewis & Clark) & Bryan Camp (Texas Tech) have independently reviewed the tax issues raised by the release of Gov. Palin's 2006 and 2007 tax returns and financial disclosure form, as well as the remarkable opinion letter issued from Washington D.C. tax lawyer Roger M. Olsen. Jack and Bryan conclude that there are serious errors in Gov. Palin's returns as filed and that she and her husband owe tens of thousands of dollars in additional taxes.

Jack Bogdanski, There's No Debate: Palins Owe Thousands in Back Taxes:

There is no serious debate (at least, none that has been brought to our attention) about the fact that at least the amounts paid for the children's travel -- $24,728.83 in 2007, according to the Washington Post -- are taxable. The campaign's tax lawyer has got at least that much of the law, and perhaps more, wrong. ... The Palins, who had their tax returns done by HR Block, simply got it wrong. And the fact that the state payroll office got it wrong, too, doesn't erase the Palins' unpaid tax liability.

Bryan Camp, A Brief Analysis of Governor Palin's Tax Returns for 2006 and 2007:

The release of an opinion letter by attorney Roger M. Olsen dated September 30, 2008, has stirred up the pot once again about the accuracy of Sarah and Todd Palin’s 2006 and 2007 tax returns. Not only that, but Mr. Olsen’s letter raises a couple of new issues.

This paper focuses on five problems: three raised in the tax returns and two new ones raised by Mr. Olsen’s letter. Here’s a summary of the five problems and my conclusions, for those who want to cut to the chase. My analysis will follow.

The Palins did not report as income some $17,000 that Governor Palin’s employer (the State of Alaska) paid her as an “allowance” for her travel. Can they do that? Yes, most likely.

The Palins did not report as income some $43,000 that the State of Alaska paid the Governor as an “allowance” for her husband and children’s travel. Can they do that? No, most likely not.

The Palins deducted $9,000 on their 2007 return, claiming it was a loss from Mr. Palin’s snow machine racing activity. Can they do that? Most likely not, but more info could make the deduction o.k. If any of the above issues goes against the Palins they then risk getting hit with the section 6662 penalty for “negligence or disregard of rules or regulations.”

Can the Palins avoid the section 6662 negligence penalty by claiming that they reasonably relied either (a) on the W-2’s sent to them by their employer, which did not reflect either the $17,000 or the $43,000, or (b) on their tax return preparer H&R Block, or (c) on Mr. Olsen’s opinion letter dated September 30, 2008? The three reliance defenses are unlikely to succeed, but more info may make the (b) defense a good one.

Does Mr. Olsen have any exposure to sanctions by the IRS because of his letter? I believe Mr. Olsen’s letter probably violates 31 C.F.R. section 10.35. If so, he would be exposed to possible sanctions from the IRS Office of Professional Responsibility.

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2008/10/tax-profs-agree.html

Thx for "Saudis" link, Fernando...

Interesting that we might be brokering peace with the Taliban 7 years after invading Afghanistan. Makes one wonder if all-military, all-the-time perhaps isn't always the most productive approach to achieving our aims.

The Palin Plan

.....My name is Dexter Clark, I am the vice chairman of the Alaskan Independence Party:
" And any one of your organizations should be using that same tactic. You should infiltrate – I know the Christian Exodus(?) is in favor of it, the Free State movement is in favor of it – I don’t think they even care which party it is. Whichever party in that area you can get something done, get into that political party, even though it does have its problems. Right now that is one of the only avenues. And you get a few people on a city council or a ??? you can have some effect."

Read the whole post, and watch the videos if you have the time.
Secessionist Sarah: VP pick Sarah Palin and the Alaska Independence Party Hotlist
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/1/4231/18477/878/581881

Say it ain't so, Joe.

The AIP's primary goal is secession from the United States. It's founder, Jon Vogler, stated as part of his platform when he ran for governor 1982 and 1986:

1# Stopping the sale of oil to the continental US in order to sell to it Japan.
2# Joining OPEC
3# Developing a military alliance with the Soviet Union to protect against US aggression.
4# And allowing above ground nuclear testing in the Arctic to open the area up for oil development

"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."
Joe Vogler
http://gettingflak.blogspot.com/2008/09/palin-patriot.html

Press kept under a watchful

Press kept under a watchful eye

CLEARWATER -- Constantly under the watchful eyes of security, the media wasn't permitted to wander around inside Coachman Park to talk to Sarah Palin supporters. When reporters tried to leave the designated press area and head toward the bleachers where the crowd was seated, an escort would dart out of nowhere and confront him or her and say, "Can I help you?'' and turn the person around.
When one reporter asked an escort, who would not give her name, why the press wasn't allowed to mingle, she said that in the past, negative things had been written. The campaign wanted to avoid that possibility Monday.

http://blogs.tampabay.com/breakingnews/2008/10/under-the-watch.html

‘24′ Producer Pulls

‘24′ Producer Pulls Endorsement Of Anti-Muslim DVD ‘Obsession’
In recent weeks, newspapers reaching 28 million households nationwide (although primarily in swing states) have been carrying an advertising supplement containing the DVD “Obsession.” The film features “graphic images of terrorism, video of anti-American speeches from Mideast television and comparisons with Nazi Germany.” According to the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the people interviewed in “Obsession” “constitute a veritable who’s who of Muslim-bashers,” including someone who said last year, “Islam is not the religion of God — Islam is the devil.”

The “anti-Muslim” film has launched protests around the country. Although a few papers refused to carry the DVD, the ones who did have received hundreds of angry phone calls and cancellations over the propaganda. “It’s among the heaviest reaction I’ve gotten to anything,” said Ted Vaden, public editor for The News & Observer in Raleigh, NC. Protestors have picketed the Oregonian’s offices with signs reading, “Hate — Not in Our Town.”

A pro-Israel think tank, the Endowment for Middle East Truth, has already pulled out of the project. Now, Howard Gordon, the executive producer of the Fox show “24″ has announced that he is also withdrawing his endorsement of the film:

After being contacted by a number of people whose opinions I respect and after reviewing Obsession with their criticisms and concerns in mind, I have asked the film makers to remove my endorsement from the Obsession website and from any future promotional materials. While I remain committed to the film’s essential message — that the hate-mongering promoted by radical Islamism presents a real threat to western values of tolerance and pluralism — I also appreciate that the goal of co-existence and tolerance is not being served by films like Obsession.

A shadowy nonprofit called the Clarion Fund — whose purpose is to address “the most urgent threat of radical Islam” — has spent millions distributing “Obsession” in battleground states and refuses to disclose its board members or funding sources. This month, Clarion is set to release “The Third Jihad,” about “the threat of radical Islamists right here in America.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/24-obsession/

Les Liaisons

Remains of Alaska Separatist Are Identified

Published: October 15, 1994

Fingerprint tests show that human remains found in a gravel pit east of Fairbanks on Wednesday are those of Joe Vogler, the founder of the Alaskan Independence Party, who vanished in May 1993, Alaska state troopers said today.

The discovery of the remains, following an anonymous tip to the authorities, apparently resolves a year-and-a-half-old mystery concerning Mr. Vogler, a folk hero throughout the state who was 80 when he disappeared from his home here.

The blue tarp and duct tape in which the remains were wrapped, officials said, matched a description given by a convicted thief, Manfred West, who confessed last summer that he had killed Mr. Vogler in a plastic-explosives sale gone bad and had then buried him.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940CE3DB153CF936A25753C1A...

‘24′ Producer Pulls

how interesting - endorses it long enough for the distribution and damages to be done....

Working for Peanuts -- Downturn Hits the Streets of New York

By Russell Morse, New America Media. Posted October 6, 2008.

New York City is ripe with reminders of our current economic disaster.

http://www.alternet.org/workplace/101680/working_for_peanuts_--_downturn...

First Obama, now McCain....

FEC Queries McCain Campaign on 'Excessive Contributions'

FEC Queries McCain Campaign on 'Excessive Contributions'
By Matthew Mosk
While the Republican Party is pushing the Federal Election Commission to investigate the possibility that Democrat Barack Obama collected excessive contributions, its own candidate is facing scrutiny on the same subject.

The FEC sent a letter to Sen. John McCain's campaign treasurer Sept. 30 demanding the candidate turn over more information about "contributions that appear to exceed the limits."

The letter is accompanied by a nine-page list showing scores of overages from McCain's August campaign finance report, including nearly $13,000 from Texas rancher Ray R. Barrett Jr.; $9,200 from an Iraqi security consultant, H. Carter Andress; and $5,000 from Joseph F. Davolio, an executive at a major national liquor, beer, and wine distributor.

"Please inform the Commission of your corrective action immediately in writing and provide photocopies of any refund checks and/or letters reattributing or redesignating the contributions in question," the letter from the FEC's senior campaign finance analyst, Leah S. Palmer, says. "The acceptance of excessive contributions is a serious problem."

The FEC sent its letter a week before a lawyer for the Republican National Committee said the party will ask the Federal Election Commission to look into the source of thousands of small-dollar contributions to Obama.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/06/fec_queries_mccain...

The Problems of Latin America and the Caribbean

VII Social Summit for the Latin American and Caribbean Unity

By Noam Chomsky

04/10/08 - -- (Caracas 9-24-08

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20941.htm

‘24′ Producer Pulls

Thanks for bringing this up. I received that disgusting DVD last Tuesday in my post office box. I know it had my name on, but have forgotten to look at the return address. I still have it in my car.

Britain's Ambassador to Afghanistan Says US strategy is Failing

By Julian Borger, diplomatic editor and Simon Tisdall in Washington

According to the published memo, he also says the elected Afghan government of Hamid Karzai had lost all trust, and that it would be a "positive thing" if in five to 10 years, after the departure of British troops, the country was governed by "an acceptable dictator". Continue

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20945.htm

Nasty, Shrill, Racist Rant by McCain Campaign Chair

Bobby May, the McCain campaign chair in Buchanan County, Virginia and correspondence secretary for the Buchanan County Republican Party, is very upset that Virginia may give its 13 Electoral Votes to the Obama.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/6/121316/310/814/621608
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"FREEDOM OF RELIGION: Mandatory Black Liberation Theology classes taught in all churches - raise taxes to pay for this mandate. Put Rev. Jeremiah Wright in charge...."

"DRUG CRISIS: Raise taxes to pay for free drugs for Obama’s inner-city political base...."

"2ND AMENDMENT: Under Obama will only apply to gang-bangers, illegal aliens, Islamo-Fascist terrorists, and Senator Jim Webb’s aide...."

"FOREIGN RELATIONS: Appoint Rev. Al Sharpton as Secretary of State, Jesse Jackson as UN Representative, and let Bill Clinton handle all other "foreign relations" ... As long as Hillary doesn't find out...!"

"THE WHITE HOUSE: Hire rapper Ludacris to "paint it black." Taxes to be increased to buy enough paint for the job plus spray-paint forgraffiti...."

"THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES: Raise taxes to send $845 billion, most of it to Africa so the Obama family there can skim off enough for them to free their goats and live the American Dream...."

"NATIONAL ANTHEM: Change to the "Black National Anthem" by James Weldon Johnson...."

"US CURRENCY: Update photos to reflect US diversity; include pictures of "great Americans" such as Oprah Winfrey, Ludacris, Sheila Jackson-Lee, Paris Hilton, and Louisiana Congressman William Jefferson (Obama's new Secretary of the Treasury - 50 Cent refused position after learning that he would lose his crazy check if he accepted the nomination)...."

"US FLAG: Replace 50 stars with a star and crescent logo; red stripes changed to green to represent Obama’s tree-hugging radical environmentalism and his lack of experience. Flag lapel pins, having become a substitute for "real patriotism," will henceforth be banned...."

The LA Times Website has a scanned copy of the article on thier website and you can view it here:

http://www.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2008-10/42750415.pdf

When is a Holocaust Not a Holocaust?

By William Blum

When is a holocaust not a holocaust?

When the perpetrators call it a victory.

04/10/08 "ICH" - --

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20943.htm

Ghettodefender

Put that disk in a mail box after writing "return to sender".

Let them pay for return mail.

Should be in Obama's cabinet--

Reversal of Fortune
Describing how ideology, special-interest pressure, populist politics, and sheer incompetence have left the U.S. economy on life support, the author puts forth a clear, commonsense plan to reverse the Bush-era follies and regain America’s economic sanity.
by Joseph E. Stiglitz November 2008

Economic theory—and historical experience—long ago proved the need for regulation of financial markets. But ever since the Reagan presidency, deregulation has been the prevailing religion. Never mind that the few times “free banking” has been tried—most recently in Pinochet’s Chile, under the influence of the doctrinaire free-market theorist Milton Friedman—the experiment has ended in disaster. Chile is still paying back the debts from its misadventure. With massive problems in 1987 (remember Black Friday, when stock markets plunged almost 25 percent), 1989 (the savings-and-loan debacle), 1997 (the East Asia financial crisis), 1998 (the bailout of Long Term Capital Management), and 2001–02 (the collapses of Enron and WorldCom), one might think there would be more skepticism about the wisdom of leaving markets to themselves....
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/11/stiglitz200811

my song of the day

Stones - Out of Time, 2 versions.
re playlist.com search
==
Don't know why this song. Just some audio influences I felt today.
[ the intro with the base, marimba and the finger snaps ]

~`~`~`~`~`~
Jamesbennett

Oil is down under $100

to $89.52 BBL

How fast will that hit the pump prices?

Russia just stopped

trading on both markets.

Marketss dropping all over the world.

Many countries are now guaranteeing deposits into banks.

GA-Sen: Holy crap, it *is*

GA-Sen: Holy crap, it *is* tied!
by kos
Mon Oct 06, 2008 at 08:05:15 AM PDT
Research 2000 for Daily Kos. 9/29-10/1. Likely voters. MoE 4% (No trend lines)

Chambliss (R) 45
Martin (D) 44

This was a late addition to our polling list, added in response to polls from Rasmussen and particularly SUSA showing a tightening race. In fact, SUSA has shown some late movement:

SurveyUSA. 9/28-29. Likely voters. 3.8% (9/14-16 results)

Chambliss (R) 46 (53)
Martin (D) 44 (36)

That's a 15-point swing in just two weeks, and our Research 2000 poll confirms SUSA's latest numbers. This one is neck and neck, with Chambliss -- the ass who morphed Democratic war hero and triple amputee Max Cleland into Osama Bin Laden -- suddenly falling well-short of the magic 50 percent "safe" mark for an incumbent.

That means that we can now add the Georgia Senate seat to the ranks of top-tier races, in addition to the 10 existing ones (VA, NM, AK, CO, NH, NC, OR, KY, MN, and MS-B).

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/6/1152/98507/228/618110

Unlikely debate topic--

'It's a form of torture'
In 1998, five Cuban men were arrested for infiltrating groups in the US that were plotting attacks on Cuba. They have not received a fair trial and two have not seen their families since. Duncan Campbell reports

It is nearly 10 years since Olga Salanueva and Adriana Perez last saw their husbands. René González and Gerardo Hernández are in jail in Marianna, Florida, and Victorville, California, members of the so-called Miami Five, all serving sentences stretching to double life for "conspiracy to act as a non-registered foreign agent".

Salanueva and Perez are in Britain this month to talk to members of the government and to anyone else who will listen about a story that is a cause célèbre throughout Latin America but is virtually unknown in the United States. It is a story that in many ways encapsulates the conflict between Cuba and its mighty neighbour for the past half-century and has ramifications both for the current "war on terror" and for the US presidential election campaign.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/06/usa.cuba

Immediate bailout needed.

Nearly one quarter of world's mammals face extinction, annual 'red list' reports

At least 1,141 of the 5,487 known species of mammal are threatened, with 188 listed in the highest risk "critically endangered" category. One in three marine mammals are also threatened, according to the five year review.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/oct/06/conservation.wildlife

Happy Days....

29 Days to Go and a Transformed Election

By Steve Lombardo

The past 14 days have transformed this election. The financial crisis has catapulted Obama into the lead both nationally and in key states. We have been saying for six months that the political environment has favored the Democrats significantly, but it took a near global financial meltdown for things to finally reach the tipping point. The economic situation has virtually ended John McCain's presidential aspirations and no amount of tactical maneuvering in the final 29 days is likely to change that equation.....

# The window for challenging Obama's character may have closed. Media reports indicate that Team McCain is going to take the gloves off (they have begun by launching attacks on Obama's connection with Bill Ayers). However, it is our sense that this should have been done in August and September, and that at this point it will likely fall on deaf ears. We are not saying that this is not a solid campaign tactic, but in light of the serious (and potentially catastrophic) issues facing the country it seems off-key at best. At worst it seems desperate. Voter opinions of Obama started to shift and harden (in his favor) after that first debate. He became substantially more acceptable. Since that time, the economic situation has made Obama a more acceptable alternative. Character attacks are part of politics and often work, but not when the country is at war and mired in an economic recession.

# At noon today, the Obama team will respond to Team McCain by launching its own attack: a 13-minute "documentary" on McCain's role in the Keating Five scandal in 1989. The S&L crisis of 20 years ago may resonate with voters given the current economic situation. (YEA!!!)

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/

I can't hear you I have a Bananna in my ear

I can't hear you I have a Bananna in my ear.

Lindner and Bush connections to Keating 5

Charles Keating started out as an attorney for Carl Lindner, who sold ACC to Keating in 1979. Lindner, a well documented profiteer off the Vietnam war, is a much bigger player than Keating. Lindner owned 7 failed S & Ls but has gone virtually unmentioned in regards to the S & L looting scandal. He has been reported to be one of the ten wealthiest men in America.

[ Lindner's Silverado S&L - Niel Bush on the board, ended up paying $50k in out of court settlement. ]

partial Lindner timeline
==
Walter C. Bush, nephew of then-Vice President George H W Bush, ran American Continential Land Investment Corp. for Keating.
[is this J. Walter Bush ? Nothing comes up when searching for "Walter C..." ]
http://www.nancyredstar.com/newslinks/junkbond.htm

~`~`~`~`~`~
Jamesbennett

Up Next

at the Top of the Hour

oh yes keating

and does anyone remember the s & l crisis? I believe there was one Neil Bush who was a part of that.

Earth's polarity may reverse--

Mishaps mark John McCain's record as naval aviator
Three crashes early in his career led Navy officials to question or fault his judgment.

1)The 23-year-old junior lieutenant wasn't paying attention and erred in using "a power setting too low to maintain level flight in a turn," investigators concluded.

2)In his most serious lapse, McCain was "clowning" around in a Skyraider over southern Spain about December 1961 and flew into electrical wires, causing a blackout,

3)In another incident, in 1965, McCain crashed a T-2 trainer jet in Virginia.

The Times interviewed men who served with McCain and located once-confidential 1960s-era accident reports and formerly classified evaluations of his squadrons during the Vietnam War. This examination of his record revealed a pilot who early in his career was cocky, occasionally cavalier and prone to testing limits.

In today's military, a lapse in judgment that causes a crash can end a pilot's career. Though standards were looser and crashes more frequent in the 1960s, McCain's record stands out.

"Three mishaps are unusual," said Michael L. Barr, a former Air Force pilot with 137 combat missions in Vietnam and an internationally known aviation safety expert who teaches in USC's Aviation Safety and Security Program. "After the third accident, you would say: Is there a trend here in terms of his flying skills and his judgment?"

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-na-aviator6-2008oct06,...

Hey everyone...

Can't send the DVD's back...

One of my customers got one and was really pissed because she's a loyal Democrat. The DVD's had a return address of, I believe, The Clarion Group.

Don't bother trying to return it. Even though they prominently display it's a $19.95 value, it's sent bulk rate with no option to return. If you refuse it, we just through them in the undeliverable bulk rate mail.

Believe me, that was my first thought when I saw them hit my office.

What a piece 'o crap.


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well if anything ever deserved to be burned in the public square

it's obviously this piece of trash - maggiesboy, maybe you can collect them and make a spectacle of it when you have a big enough pile

My link went down for the show

Did this happen to anyone else?

maron v seder apparently down?

they were having too much fun with the dolls, they might have hit the console....

they're back on now

site down

according to what i saw - - anyone have another link to the show?

whats that other link?

Its back up but the chat rm is better at the other site...
the great thing is that it was apparently the capacity. I wonder what the numbers are as the thing gets more attention.
I would hope that some press person is trying to get M$M press...
even in the tech media.

Melina
www.RIPCoco.com
www.BrilliantatBreakfast.blogspot.com
www.SweetJesusIHateChrisMatthews.blogspot.com

AUDIO LINK FINE

MVSLIVE is good on the audio link. Check the top of the page.

http://www.maronvseder.tv/?page_id=5

Live video show here

Maybe they are talking about the Meebo Room

I never had luck signing on to it.

I like it here just fine.

hahahaha


Crawford paper endorses Obama.

What a piece 'o crap.

Not only that. I was so disappointed. When I saw the title, I thought cool. Free porn!

McCain's latest trick- pink

McCain's latest trick- pink signs

cspan1

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Jamesbennett

McFeeble is Whistle talking on

my TV right now.

Don't know where he's at, but people are loving him. Yech!

now

site back - show great...hungry for scones.

Thirty Lies Refuted About Ayers And Obama

The gutter politics of the McCain campaign is reaching down once again to denounce Obama for his distant past links to Bill Ayers in an unprecedented guilt-by-association attack for a presidential campaign.

OMG funny funny funny

TNR senior editor Noam Scheiber came across a piece of paper from an old Wasilla city budget, on the back of which Palin doodled and brainstormed her potential mayoral campaign themes ("time for a change," "you would be my boss!") and qualifications ("life-long alaskan," "NRA supporter," "taxpayer!"). - New Republic

Check out the links!

Justice in The Last Frontier.

On tape, Stevens professes innocence, worries about jail

Stevens, on trial now, told Veco's chief Bill Allen in one of the taped conversations that he wasn't getting much sleep when he thought about "all this (expletive) is going down. Why these (expletive) are doing this thing to friends?"

The worst that could happen, Stevens told Allen, was that they'd have to pay thousands of dollars in legal bills to get themselves out of hot water.

"They're not going to shoot us — it's not Iraq," Stevens said, although he also expressed some concern about having to serve time in jail.

"I hope to Christ it never gets to that, but I don't think it will," Stevens said
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/53538.html

oh gawd

that guy sounds exactly like my bookie...

errr... broker.

i need to go do some yard work -

i think my opponent's campaign filed a complaint with the city.

I caught the show. better

I caught the show. better than last week's from what I caught.

I'm glad.

despite my criticisms yesterday, I do want them to succeed.

My Merrill Lynch account, may it rest in peace

2-1-07: $4,400
10-3-07: $4,049
4-3-08: $3,678
8-21-08: $3,300
9-15-08: $3,207
Today: $2,200

Katie not taking any shit.

Not alot of jobs but it still hurts the areas.

100 Employees Out Of Job

POSTED: 1:08 pm EDT October 6, 2008
UPDATED: 1:40 pm EDT October 6, 2008

ASHLAND, Ohio -- The Archway Cookie plant in Ashland closed Friday, putting about 100 people out of a job.

The company's headquarters in Battle Creek, Mich., also closed, affecting about 60 employees.

"This was one of the staple businesses in Ashland for the last 50 years. Not only are we that worked here shocked, the entire community is shocked," said Michael Davis, machine operator.

No reason was immediately given for the bakery's shutdown.

Ashland Mayor Glen Stewart said he received a letter from Archway officials advising him the plant would be closed effective Monday.

Archway's Ashland plant on Claremont Avenue has been in operation since the 1950s.

http://www.newsnet5.com/money/17634710/detail.html

Why does John hate Israel?

As for the real terrorism, someone should please ask McCain about his support in the 1980s for the mujahideen (Muslim holy warriors) blowing up things in Afghanistan, which ultimately led some of the mujahideen to form al-Qaeda. Or about McCain's friendship and support for Gen.Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan, who refused to help capture Bin Laden in 1999 and who continued to support and use the Taliban
http://www.juancole.com/

Not alot of jobs but it still hurts the areas

Literally a daily event here. Shocked I'm still employed.

LIVE STREAM Debates tonight..

http://www.alternativecandidatesdebate.com/

An Alternative Presidential Candidates’ Debate will be held in Nashville from 7 to 9 pm (central time) on October 6th, one day prior to the McCain-Obama debate in Nashville. The debate is open to all third party candidates for President in the United States as well as the major party nominees.

The debate is being organized by the Coalition for October Debate Alternatives (CODA), the Nashville Peace Coalition, and Vanderbilt Students of Nonviolence. The moderator for the event will be Bruce Barry, a professor at the Owen School of Management at Vanderbilt. The debate will be held in room 4309 Stevenson Center, on the campus of Vanderbilt University; it is free and open to the public and the news media.

The participants who have confirmed are

Brad Lyttle: US Pacifist Party
Charles Jay: Boston Tea Party
Frank McEnulty: New American Independent Party
Brian Moore: Socialist Party USA
Darrell Castle: Constitution Party (VP candidate standing in for Presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin)
Gloria La Riva: Party for Socialism and Liberation

The event will be streamed at http://www.vanderbilt.edu/news/ and available afterwards at http://www.youtube.com/vanderbilt.

Annette Losing Assets

K.U. squeaked by with a 35-33 win over Iowa State after being down 20 to zip.

Mizzou disemboweled Nebraska 52 to 17 without breaking a sweat.

In the national college football polls Mizzou is ranked third at the lowest. Kansas is ranked fifteenth at the highest.

(My motto: Gloat while the gloatin' is good.)

Back to the DSM-IV Did John

Back to the DSM-IV
Did John McCain really just say that Barack Obama gets "touchy" and "angry" whenever he gets questioned on his credentials or policies? I know that projection is a common psychological phenomenon, especially for those who find themselves in desperate situations. But for a set piece speech that must mean it's afflicted McCain's entire campaign.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/new_mccain_attac...

I mean, you remember McCain's boil over performance at the Des Moines Register editorial board last week ..

And now a member of the paper's editorial board, who I assume was in the room, is asking whether McCain is just too touchy and unstable to be a safe person to have as president.

From the weekend column ...
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008810030350

John McCain is angry.
You can feel it in the clenched muscles in his throat, the narrowing of his eyes, the controlled tone with which he handles a question he doesn't like, as if struggling to contain something that might spill out. We've seen that body language on TV. But around a Des Moines Register table Tuesday, the anger and tension were palpable. And unsettling.

Eeesh ...

I think the lesson is that it's hard to take potshots about the other guy being 'angry' when you're in the midst of having your own on-air breakdown with fifty years of anger and resentment boiling to the surface.

Late Update: TPM Reader NB chimes in ...

What a weird spectacle McCain's speech was this afternoon. It was as though McCain went out of the way to take every criticism that has come his way and attribute it to Barack Obama. In addition to being jarringly at odds with reality, it also seemed to undermine the larger questions that the campaign seems to want to be raising.

--Josh Marshall

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/222273.php

McCain does nothing as crowd member calls Obama a "terrorist"

McCain was speaking today in New Mexico, doing his usual personal attack on Barack Obama, as the stock market plummeted (you can see the ticker next to McCain on the screen, an apt reminder of what McCain and his fellow Republicans represent), and McCain asked the crowd "who is Barack Obama?" Immediately you hear someone yell "terrorist." McCain pauses, the audience laughs, and McCain continues on, not acknowledging, not chastising, not correcting. Oh, but McCain does say in the next sentence that he's upset about all the "angry barrage of insults." Is McCain losing his mind, or just a liar?

Obama to return donations

Obama to return donations from I.P. Freely, Richard Hertz

http://www.236.com/news/2008/10/06/obama_to_return_donations_from_9351.p...

The Republican National Committee plans to file a complaint with the Federal Election Committee seeking an audit of donations to the Obama campaign. The FEC had previously made the Obama campaign return donations to donors who had apparently used false names when donating online. One such donor identified himself as "Good Will," using the address of a nonprofit Goodwill Industries location. Another donor was identified only as "Doodad Pro," and gave the address of a liquor store. And earlier this year, the campaign returned $33,000 to two Palestinian brothers who had given their location as being in the state of "GA," when they were actually located in the Gaza Strip.

Can't this campaign spot a fake name when they see it? We wanted to save the FEC's time so we grabbed the list of Obama campaign donations and went through the names for them, highlighting in yellow suspected false names as well as donations that Obama would be wise to return. Check out the donation ledger below:

Where we would be with McLiar as prez.

"We felt that doing nothing in a period of repressive violence is itself a form of violence. That's really the part that I think is the hardest for people to understand. If you sit in your house, live your white life and go to your white job, and allow the country that you live in to murder people and to commit genocide, and you sit there and you don't do anything about it, that's violence."

"Days of Rage"
Shortly before the demonstrations, they blew up a statue in Chicago built to commemorate police casualties incurred in the 1886 Haymarket Riot.[9] The blast broke nearly 100 windows and scattered pieces of the statue onto the Kennedy Expressway below.[10] The statue was rebuilt and unveiled on May 4, 1970, only to be blown up by the Weathermen a second time on October 6, 1970.[11][10] The statue was rebuilt once and Mayor Richard J. Daley posted a 24-hour police guard to protect it.

(I doubt Sarah has even heard of the Haymarket Riot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organization)

Did anyone watch McCain today?

His left eye was half closed and twitching like crazy.

There is definately something wrong with him. And as you read above, he was blaming everything that was blamed on him, on Obama.

He's not a well man, menally or physically.

But the audience thought he was great. Do they not care what will happen? Especially the older people in the audience. With his policies, they stand to lose the most.

I'm still in awe of these people. I really am.

Listening to CNN

This republican pundit just said that Sarah Palin should be at the top of the ticket. His name is Terry but I didn't catch his last name. You've seen him alot as a repub pundit.

I can't believe he said that and Wolf didn't really question him about it.

More of the same.

North Carolina
O 50 M 44
http://www.pollster.com/blogs/

October 6, 2008
CNN Poll: Obama advantage grows
Posted: 04:00 PM ET

From CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser
A new national poll suggests Barack Obama is taking the lead.
A new national poll suggests Barack Obama is taking the lead.

Likely voters nationwide:

Obama: 53 percent
McCain: 45 percent
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/06/cnn-poll-obama-advantage...

2012

Court Delays Miers and

Court Delays Miers and Bolten Congressional Testimony
By Kate Klonick - October 6, 2008, 4:35PM
Monday did not bring good news for the House Judiciary Committee. A federal appeals court has delayed the testimony of Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten, in the latest ruling (pdf) in the epic back and forth between the executive and legislative branches. The decision pushes the issue into the next administration.

From the AP:

Time will run out on this year's congressional session before the battle between two branches of government can be resolved, according to the ruling by a three-judge panel on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.
The ruling essentially pushes any resolution on the politically charged case until next year.
"The present dispute is of potentially great significance for the balance of power between the legislative and executive branches," wrote the panel of judges, two of whom were appointed by Republicans.

Still, the judges wrote, "Even if expedited, this controversy will not be fully and finally resolved by the judicial branch ... before the 110th Congress ends on January 3, 2009. At that time, the 110th House of Representatives will cease to exist as a legal entity, and the subpoenas it has issued will expire."

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/miers_and_bolten_congr...

TPM Track Composite: Obama

TPM Track Composite: Obama Takes Big Lead In Post-Veep Debate Polls
By Eric Kleefeld - October 6, 2008, 2:52PM
Here's our daily composite of the four major national tracking polls for today. This is the first day of polls with data taken entirely after the Veep debate -- and Obama's lead just keeps getting bigger:

• Gallup: Obama 50%, McCain 42%, with a ±2% margin of error, compared to a 50%-43% Obama lead yesterday.

• Rasmussen: Obama 52%, McCain 44%, with a ±2% margin of error, compared to a 51%-44% Obama lead yesterday. This is Obama's biggest lead ever in the Rasmussen poll.

• Hotline/Diageo: Obama 47%, McCain 41%, with a ±3.2% margin of error, compared to a 47%-41% Obama lead yesterday.

• Research 2000: Obama 52, McCain 40%, with a ±3% margin of error, unchanged from yesterday.

Adding these polls together and weighting them by the square roots of their sample sizes, Obama is ahead 50.5%-42.1%. Note that Obama is not only up by over eight points, but he has climbed past the 50% mark.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/tpm_track_compos...

Ted Stevens on tape:

Ted Stevens on tape: might 'spend a little time in jail'

By Richard B. Schmitt, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
1:58 PM PDT, October 6, 2008

WASHINGTON -- Caught on tape discussing the burgeoning corruption probe against him two years ago, Sen. Ted Stevens was both combative and pragmatic, denying in sometimes colorful language that he and a friend had done anything wrong but also acknowledging that they might face fines or even prison.

"You got to get a tough mental attitude," the six-term Republican lawmaker said in a telephone conversation with oilman Bill J. Allen recorded by the FBI. "These people can't shoot us. This isn't Iraq."

"Hell, the worst that could happen is that we run up a bunch of legal fees ... pay a fine, spend a little time in jail," Stevens added. "I hope ... it doesn't come to that."

....fucking money.....

Six found dead in Porter Ranch home

By Richard Winton and Ari B. Bloomekatz, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
1:15 PM PDT, October 6, 2008

An unemployed financial advisor apparently despondent over his situation shot and killed his wife, his mother-in-law and three children before taking his own life in a gated community in Porter Ranch in the northwest San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles police said today.

full article

McCain Voted To Protect Domestic Terrorists

This morning on CBS’s Early Show, McCain-Palin campaign spokesperson Nancy Pfotenhauer attempted to defend Gov. Sarah Palin’s (R-AZ) debunked claims that Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) has been “palling around” with former radical William Ayers. Referencing a recent New York Times article, Pfotenhauer claimed that if McCain “hung out with somebody who had bombed abortion clinics” it would be a legitimate topic of discussion. She explained:

PFOTENHAUER: The article also concluded is that if Senator McCain had hung out with somebody who had bombed abortion clinics, no one would consider [raising the issue] illegitimate.

Pfotenhauer’s invocation of abortion clinic bombers in defense of McCain is ironic given that McCain has repeatedly voted against protecting Americans from domestic terrorists in the anti-choice movement. On multiple occasions throughout his career, McCain sought to limit the government’s ability to punish violent anti-choice fanatics by:

– Voting against making anti-choice violence a federal crime. As the Jed Report notes, McCain voted in 1993 and 1994 against making “bombings, arson and blockades at abortion clinics, and shootings and threats of violence against doctors and nurses who perform abortions” federal crimes.

– Opposing Colorado’s “Bubble Law.” McCain said he opposed Colorado’s “Bubble Law,” which prohibited abortion protesters from getting within 8 feet of women entering clinics [Denver Post, 2/27/00]. The law was later upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.

– Voting to allow those fined for violence at clinics to avoid penalties by declaring bankruptcy. NARAL Pro-Chioce America notes that McCain “voted to allow perpetrators of violence or harassment at reproductive-health clinics to avoid paying the fines assessed against them for their illegal acts by declaring bankruptcy.”

SurveyUSA: Obama Way Ahead

SurveyUSA: Obama Way Ahead in New Hampshire
A new SurveyUSA poll in New Hampshire finds Sen. Barack Obama leading by an astonishing 13 points, 53% to 40%.

A little history: "New Hampshire voted Republican in 1968, 1972, 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988 and 2000. New Hampshire voted Democrat in 1992, 1996 and 2004, but no Democrat running for President in New Hampshire has received more than 50% of the vote in the past 44 years."

Key findings: Obama holds a 22-point advantage among women, 29-point advantage among young voters, 21-point advantage among Moderates, 18-point advantage among those who consider themselves an intellectual, 24-point advantage among lower-income voters, and 23-point advantage among college graduates.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=a8255cdc-82a4-4a10-8cf...

Schmidt Convinced McCain to

Schmidt Convinced McCain to Pick Palin
For better or worse, the Los Angeles Times gives McCain strategist Steve Schmidt the credit for putting Gov. Sarah Palin on the Republican ticket.

"Convinced that McCain needed a dramatic gesture to make the race competitive, Schmidt pressed McCain to pluck the Alaska governor from obscurity. Other than the candidates, no one in the operation has more riding on that decision than Schmidt. And no one has worked harder to turn the decision into a success."

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-schmidt6-2008oct06,0,555417.s...

anyone know what randi's been playing for the

last eleven minutes? it's sounds like a keating 5 hearings documentary.

Obama's Ground Game With the

Obama's Ground Game
With the McCain campaign retreating from Michigan into Wisconsin, Walter Shapiro heads to Green Bay and notices a distinct difference between the ground games of Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John McCain.

"Something major seems to be stirring when the Obama campaign can put a battalion on the streets of Brown County and the McCain forces have to counter with a ragtag platoon of high-school students."

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/06/wisconsin/

Money Is The Next Temptation

2012
Submitted by 13ben on Mon, 10/06/2008 - 5:00pm.
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My current guess is that in 2012 Palin will be out of politics as a candidate, having chosen to go for the money with product endorsements or a talk show or a career on the political commentary circuit. After the McCain/Palin ticket loses in November, a book is a sure bet...and then she's off to the races.

I don't believe that her ambition is rooted in ideological or political or philosophical conviction. She has been seeking fame during her entire adult life and, having now attained it, she will go for fortune.

KEATING ECONOMICS:

Palin ethics probes beset by

Palin ethics probes beset by secrecy and lawsuit

AP - 2 hours, 1 minute ago

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin says she's an open book regarding an abuse-of-power investigation. Apparently her staff doesn't feel the same way.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081006/ap_on_el_pr/palin_troopergate;_ylt=A...

Fed to provide as much as

Fed to provide as much as $900B in loans to banks

AP - Mon Oct 6, 2:50 PM ET

WASHINGTON - The Federal Reserve will provide as much as $900 billion in cash loans to squeezed banks in an urgent effort Monday to break through a dangerous credit clog that threatens the economy and has unhinged financial markets around the globe.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081006/ap_on_bi_ge/fed_credit_crisis;_ylt=A...

McCain calls Obama a liar AP

McCain calls Obama a liar

AP - 23 minutes ago

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. - Behind in the polls, Republican John McCain on Monday called Democratic rival Barack Obama a liar as he leveled his harshest criticism yet, and said the campaign boils down to one basic question: Who is Obama really?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081006/ap_on_el_pr/mccain;_ylt=AqxHIk4X46os...

Couric interview of Palin

A decent take on what is going on in Pakistani politics...

http://www.upiasia.com/Politics/2008/10/06/will_united_states_back_kiyan...

...and, consequently, why I believe Zardari is not long for this earth.

Obama widens lead in national poll

NASHVILLE, Tennessee (CNN) -- A new national poll suggests Barack Obama is widening his lead over John McCain in the race for the White House.

The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll out Monday afternoon suggests that the country's financial crisis, record low approval ratings for President Bush and a drop in the public's perception of McCain's running mate could be contributing to Obama's gains.

Fifty-three percent of likely voters questioned in the poll say they are backing Obama for president, with 45 percent supporting McCain.

That 8-point lead is double the 4-point lead Obama held in the last CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll, taken in mid-September.

Monday's CNN national Poll of Polls -- incorporating our new CNN survey, as well as new tracking numbers from Gallup and Hotline taken October 3-5-- shows Obama leading McCain by 7 points -- at 50 to 43 percent.

President Bush may be part of the reason why Obama's making gains. Only 24 percent of those polled approve of Bush's job as president, an all-time low for a CNN survey. See the latest polling

"Bush has now tied Richard Nixon's worst rating ever, taken in a poll just before he resigned in 1975, and is only 2 points higher than the worst presidential approval rating in history, Harry Truman's 22 percent mark in February 1952," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

And that's bad news for McCain, because the poll suggests a growing number of Americans believe the Republican presidential nominee would have the same policies as the current Republican president. Fifty-six percent say McCain's policies would be the same as Bush, up from 50 percent a month ago.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/06/poll.of.polls/index.html

I think Obama needs to go on the attack...

He needs to start following the retreating McCain into the states the Republicans are trying to shore up.

Kick 'em while they are down!

It's all they understand and the only way to earn their respect.


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More from that CNN poll report I posted

More Americans appear to have an unfavorable view of Gov. Sarah Palin, and that may also be helping Obama in the fight for the presidency. Forty percent now have an unfavorable view of Palin, up from 27 percent a month ago and from 21 percent in late August, when McCain surprised many people by picking the first-term Alaska governor as his running mate.

"A majority of Americans now believe that Sarah Palin would be unqualified to serve as president if it became necessary, and her unfavorable rating has doubled," Holland said.

They Lost A Lot Of Money

They Lost A Lot Of Money

Spending the day watching CNBC, it's really quite stunning that they're unable to grapple with the real problem underlying all of this instead of the consequences of that problem. There's been a tremendous evaporation of housing wealth as a consequence of the bursting of the housing bubble. Lots of banks made bad loans and that money isn't coming back. Dealing with home foreclosures is time consuming and expensive and a lot of houses are underwater. Other people lost money insuring mortgages. Still more people lost money buying up those mortgages. Still more people lost money lending to people to buy up more mortgages. Even more people lost money insuring those loans. Etc.

All of this babble about liquidity and short selling and blah blah blah just obfuscates all of this. A big reason that there is a liquidity problem is that... people lost a lot of money. All gone!

-Atrios 15:42

Engaging on Keating I'd

Engaging on Keating

I'd always thought McCain's great strength in defending the Keating affair was that he'd acknolwedged making a huge mistake, and spent his career repenting by recasting himself as a reformer.

So when his campaign puts his lawyer on the line with reporters to contest the details of a congressional inquiry that, largely, let McCain off the hook, doesn't that cloud the sin-confession-atonement dynamic a bit?

In Halperin's account, McCain lawyer John Dowd described McCain's "former relationship with Charles Keating as 'social friends,'" and called the situation a "classic political smear job on John."

Dowd also "thinks that the committee went too far in suggesting that McCain’s intervention with regulators was poor judgment," Halperin writes.

But if so, what's this giant mistake that transformed McCain into a reformer?

By Ben Smith 12:46 PM

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Engaging_on_Keating.html

Kathleen Parker exposes the

Kathleen Parker exposes the right wing attacks against her for speaking out against Sarah Palin
By John Amato Monday Oct 06, 2008 10:00am

Video at link

Right wing columnist Kathleen Parker has been viciously attacked by over 11,000 right wing emailers for saying that she thought Sarah Palin wasn't qualified for the job. We're used to seeing the media attack the left wing bloggers by quoting anonymous comments left on our blogs which is supposed to be a fair substitute for our own writings. It's about time the right was exposed for this behavior as she appeared on CNN's Reliable Sources to discuss this incident.

KURTZ: Here is what you wrote this week: "Allow me to introduce myself. I am a traitor and an idiot. Also, my mother should have aborted me and left me in a dumpster, but since she didn't, I should off myself."

Now, this is all because some readers didn't like what you had to say about Sarah Palin.

PARKER: Some people were very upset. Approximately 11,000 so far, and counting.

Yes, I wrote about Sarah Palin stepping down from the ticket. I felt after her third interview -- I didn't think any of her interviews were very good, but the third was catastrophic -- that she ought to leave the ticket and let McCain try to put somebody else in place to do a better job and help him with maybe the economy.

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KURTZ: What about the reaction? All those e-mails, all the vitriol directed at you, I mean, that has got to be somewhat depressing. Are you expected because you are on the conservative side of the spectrum to defend any nominee the Republican Party throws out there?

PARKER: Apparently. Apparently so.

KURTZ: And for those who missed the column, you said -- this was after one of her encounters with Katie Couric -- "If Palin were a man, we'd all be guffawing. And if B.S. were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself."

Their posters are as nasty and sleazy on the internet as anybody, but the media likes to create a false narrative about the left so they usually ignore it. However, Parker is one of their own and this time the Villagers didn't sweep it under the rug.

(transcripts below the fold via CNN)

http://www.crooksandliars.com/node/23215

John McCain, The U.S.

John McCain, The U.S. Council for World Freedom, the World Anti-Communist League, and Sun Myung Moon
(Updated below)
This morning on Meet the Press, when the topic of the discussion was the attempts by the McCain campaign and the right's media to link Barack Obama to former Weather Underground member William Ayers, Democratic strategist Paul Begala noted that McCain has his own problem with consorting with extremists considering his membership of the board of the U.S. Council for World Freedom, an affiliate of the World Anti-Communist League (WACL), headed by former general John Singlaub. Begala noted that the Anti-Defamation League has documented how the WACL (now known as the World League for Freedom and Democracy) “has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites.”

That's putting it lightly. I have done some research on the WACL for my Sun Myung Moon blog when I heard that Moon had been a major financial supporter of the League in the 1970's and 1980's. The definitive book on the League is Scott and Jon Lee Anderson's Inside the League: The Shocking Expose of How Terrorists, Nazis, and Latin American Death Squads Have Infiltrated the World Anti-Communist League. I used information culled from the book for my YouTube video "The World's Most Powerful Cult." What the book documents is shocking. The League has served as a resource for neo-Nazis (Roger Pearson,former chairman of the WACL, was expelled when media stories emerged that he been in various neo-Nazi organizations including Willis Carto's notorious Liberty Lobby). The League did what it could to prop up undemocratic regimes and aided Salvadorian terrorist death squad leader Roberto D'Aubuisson whose nickname "Blowtorch Bob" was coined because of his favorite instrument of torture (quick aside: D'Aubuisson had also received support from figures beloved by "values voters": Jesse Helms and Jerry Falwell).

The big difference between Obama and McCain: Obama did some educational reform projects with William Ayers decades after his Weather Underground activities. McCain was affiliated with the WACL at the time in which it was a nest of neo-Nazis and was openly supporting terrorist like D'Aubuisson. How come I didn't know about McCain's affiliation with the group until today?

http://scoobiedavis.blogspot.com/2008/10/john-mccain-u.html

UPDATE I: The Center for Media and Democracy's SourceWatch has more on The U.S. Council for World Freedom.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Council_for_the_Defense_of_Fr...

Go ahead Crank

Kick a gal when she's down.
Ya bootheel bastid!!!

And, (heh) I still got assets :-). Just not the kind I can retire on. :-| Well, unless you count my ass.

[No, sitting and retiring aren't the same thing, for those of you who are ESL.]

Ya just gotta laugh at times like these, I suppose. Beats the alternative.

Alice, ya still up for some anarchy? I was thinking about some civil disobedience....

This is Annette, signing off!

Obama's Unbelievable

Obama's Unbelievable Generosity to a Stranded Norwegian in 1988

ÅSGÅRDSTRAND (VG): Mary was a newlywed and ready to move to Norway, but was stopped at the airport because she didn’t have enough money for the trip. Then a stranger turned up and paid for her.

Mary Menth Andersen was 31 years old at the time and had just married Norwegian Dag Andersen. She was looking forward to starting a new life in Åsgårdstrand in Vestfold with him. But first she had to get all of her belongings across to Norway. The date was November 2nd, 1988.

At the airport in Miami things were hectic as usual, with long lines at the check-in counters. When it was finally Mary’s turn and she had placed her luggage on the baggage line, she got the message that would crush her bubbling feeling of happiness.

-You’ll have to pay a 103 dollar surcharge if you want to bring both those suitcases to Norway, the man behind the counter said.

Mary had no money. Her new husband had travelled ahead of her to Norway, and she had no one else to call.
-I was completely desperate and tried to think which of my things I could manage without. But I had already made such a careful selection of my most prized possessions, says Mary.

Although she explained the situation to the man behind the counter, he showed no signs of mercy.
-I started to cry, tears were pouring down my face and I had no idea what to do. Then I heard a gentle and friendly voice behind me saying, That’s OK, I’ll pay for her.

Mary turned around to see a tall man whom she had never seen before.

-He had a gentle and kind voice that was still firm and decisive. The first thing I thought was, Who is this man?
Although this happened 20 years ago, Mary still remembers the authority that radiated from the man.
-He was nicely dressed, fashionably dressed with brown leather shoes, a cotton shirt open at the throat and khaki pants, says Mary.

She was thrilled to be able to bring both her suitcases to Norway and assured the stranger that he would get his money back. The man wrote his name and address on a piece of paper that he gave to Mary. She thanked him repeatedly. When she finally walked off towards the security checkpoint, he waved goodbye to her.

The piece of paper said ‘Barack Obama’ and his address in Kansas, which is the state where his mother comes from. Mary carried the slip of paper around in her wallet for years, before it was thrown out.
-He was my knight in shining armor, says Mary, smiling.

She paid the 103 dollars back to Obama the day after she arrived in Norway. At that time he had just finished his job as a poorly paid community worker* in Chicago, and had started his law studies at prestigious Harvard university.
In the spring of 2006 Mary’s parents had heard that Obama was considering a run for president, but that he had still not decided. They chose to write a letter in which they told him that he would receive their votes. At the same time, they thanked Obama for helping their daughter 18 years earlier.

In a letter to Mary’s parents dated May 4th, 2006 and stamped ‘United States Senate, Washington DC’, Barack Obama writes**:

‘I want to thank you for the lovely things you wrote about me and for reminding me of what happened at Miami airport. I’m happy I could help back then, and I’m delighted to hear that your daughter is happy in Norway. Please send her my best wishes. Sincerely, Barack Obama, United States senator’.
The parents sent the letter on to Mary.

http://www.gjengangeren.no/article/20081004/NYHETER/316360703

>>ya still up for some

>>ya still up for some anarchy?

can you believe this person? Who is she?

She shows up here for the first time...her very first post is a blatant attempt to incent riot!

Orange Alert....

FBI warns of potential terror attacks on public buildings

The FBI and Department of Homeland Security today issued an analytical "note" to U.S. law-enforcement officials cautioning that al-Qaida terrorists have in the past expressed interest in attacking public buildings using a dozen suicide bombers each carrying 20 kilograms of explosives.

Authors with the U.S. Office of Intelligence and Analysis added that they have "no credible or specific information that terrorists are planning operations against public buildings in the United States." The FBI and DHS analysts said they were releasing the note because "it is important for local authorities and building owners and operators to be aware of potential attack tactics."

http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/06/1501940.aspx

The sky is falling

For the first time, astronomers have found an object on a certain collision course with Earth. - NS

The rock is due to hit the atmosphere above northern Sudan on Tuesday at 0246 GMT. It will be travelling from west to east, and may be visible from a few hundred kilometres away.

Gunman kills self, five kin over financial woes: LA police

"An unemployed California man shot and killed his wife, three children and mother-in-law before taking his own life over his family's financial difficulties, police said Monday.

Los Angeles Police Department deputy chief Michael Moore said the gunman, 45, shot his wife, 39, her mother, 70, and three sons aged 19, 12 and seven at their home in an upmarket suburb of Los Angeles.

The identities of the family members were not released, but Moore said the gunman was a business school graduate who had held jobs with accountancy firm Price Waterhouse and Sony Pictures before becoming unemployed.

"We believe this individual had become despondent recently over his financial dealings and the financial situation of his household, and this murder-suicide event is a direct result of that," Moore said.

A letter apparently left by the gunman attested to the family's financial difficulties, he said."

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hW1kpbUxlQPlMCXxIWFnXAn-L3sA

Nando

I hear that on TV. They are calling it a comet.

Treasury puts out guidelines

Treasury puts out guidelines for bailout managers
Source: CNN

... The Treasury on Monday also released its guidelines for how it would hire firms to manage asset purchases.

It cited the need to begin the program urgently. Asset managers and other private-sector agents involved in running it may be hired "through other than full and open competition," the Treasury said in a statement.

The department will post help wanted notices on its Web site and applicants will be reviewed in a two-stage process after they've expressed interest.

"Given the urgent need to implement the Troubled Assets Relief Program quickly, the selection process for asset managers may involve extremely short deadlines for submitting information" and attending interviews, Treasury noted.

... Still unclear from the guidelines, however, is how - and how much - the asset managers will be paid.

http://biz.yahoo.com/cnnm/081006/100608_treasury_hiring_guidelines.html

Who They Are, What They're

Who They Are, What They're About
So we have McCain today getting his crowd riled up asking who Barack Obama is and then apparently giving a wink and a nod when one member of the crowd screams out "terrorist."

And later we have Sarah Palin with the same mob racket, getting members of the crowd to yell out "kill him", though it's not clear whether the call for murder was for Bill Ayers or Barack Obama. It didn't seem to matter.

These are dangerous and sick people, McCain and Palin. Whatever it takes. Stop at nothing.

--Josh Marshall

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/222324.php

toniD on Mon, 10/06/2008 - 7:26pm.

Josh Marshal deservs a medal of honor.

Obama hasn't said McCain was unhinged.

Lefty bloggers say it but Obama has not said that.

I certainly think John McCain and his supporters get unhinged. Of course he's unhinged but Obama never said it far as I can tell.

Hitting back, KO tonight.

Special Comment: Hockey Moms In Glass Houses Hotlist
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/6/172419/580/460/621962

MM..Berkeley Breathed is on NPR now

you were correct - opus is over - he is writing kids books now....

Countdown looks especially

Countdown looks especially good tonight!

News Media Feel Limits to

News Media Feel Limits to Georgia’s Democracy

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/07/world/europe/07georgia.html?_r=1&hp&or...

TBILISI, Georgia — The cameras at Georgia’s main opposition broadcaster, Imedi, kept rolling Nov. 7, when masked riot police officers, armed with machine guns, burst into the studio. They smashed equipment, ordered employees and television guests to lie on the floor and confiscated their cellphones. A news anchor remained on screen throughout, describing the mayhem. Then all went black.

The pretext for the raid — which silenced the channel — was a government claim that Imedi was fomenting unrest after it broadcast a statement by one of its founders, Badri Patarkatsishvili, promising to topple the government of President Mikheil Saakashvili.

Earlier that day, riot police lashed out with clubs and fired rubber bullets at unarmed antigovernment protesters. A nine-day state of emergency followed.

Now, 11 months later, Georgia’s democratic credentials are again being questioned, and tested, as the country finds itself on the frontline of a confrontation between Russia and the West.

Georgia and its American backers, including both the Republican and Democratic United States presidential contenders, have presented Georgia as a plucky little democracy in an unstable region, a country deserving of generous aid and NATO membership. But a growing number of critics inside and outside the country argue that Georgia falls well short of Western democratic standards and single out a lack of press freedom as a glaring example.

A Monkey, A Keyboard And Infinity

Submitted by Chubby Bubba on Mon, 10/06/2008 - 7:04pm.
...a blatant attempt to incent riot!
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This is a tough one. On the one hand, the Rajah is a smart guy who sports a large vocabulary. On the other hand, the Rajah throws typos around like confetti.

I cannot remember seeing the verb "incent" used anywhere before I read the Rajah's post. Is it a typo of "incite?" Did he get lucky with a typo that accidentally functions like the word he intended to type? Is it technically possible to incent a riot, or must one incent people to create a riot? (For that matter, can one incite a riot or must one incite people to create a riot?)

Typo, or no typo? We'll never know. Wild horses couldn't drag it out of him.

incent (ĭn-sĕnt')

tr.v., -cent·ed, -cent·ing, -cents.

To incentivize: “would use tax breaks to incent corporations to invest in their future” (Scott Canon).

Sarah Vowell Is Letterman's Guest Tonight

(A hot tip for the same weird people who like Amy Sedaris.)

Will Brokaw's Qs about Ayers and Wright reach 2x digits?

The candidates on Tuesday will not only take questions from moderator Tom Brokaw of NBC News, but they'll also answer questions from people in the audience and from Internet participants.

The audience will be made up of uncommitted voters.

"These debates, town hall debates, are often very telling, they often provide the most dramatic moments in a campaign," said Bill Schneider, CNN's senior political analyst.

"If either of the candidates tries to go negative when you're with an audience of ordinary voters, they don't like it. We've heard them sometimes get very upset when the candidates start attacking each other, so that's going to be hard to do in a town hall format," he said.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/06/presidential.debate/

Hot Investment Tip

I own a handful of stocks that tanked on me...well...years ago. After they tanked, I formulated a theory that they couldn't lose more value than their weight in toilet paper, so they have nowhere to go but up.

Here is the funny part: They have held steady through the market decline. One of them has increased in value (up to the approximate equivalent of scented toilet paper).

For future reference, if you think that the market is going to lose, say, twenty or thirty percent of its value, invest in the crappiest dogs you can find.

Think of it as hiding in the basement when the storm approaches.

Chubby Bubba

I think I understood what you meant.

Waxman goes after elite thief.

With the startled look of a man unaccustomed to sharp examination, Lehman chief executive Richard Fuld clashed bluntly with the chairman of the House oversight committee, Henry Waxman, on Capitol Hill.

* Business
* Lehman Brothers

'Your company is bankrupt, you keep $480m. Is that fair?'

* Andrew Clark in New York and Elana Schor in Washington
* The Guardian,
* Tuesday October 7 2008
* Article history

Richard Fuld, Lehman Brothers

Richard Fuld, chief executive of Lehman Brothers, testifies in Washington on Monday. Photograph: Susan Walsh/AP

It was a showdown to cherish for critics of Wall Street's culture of enrichment. The grim-faced boss of the bankrupt bank Lehman Brothers was left squirming yesterday as a veteran Democrat roasted him over his multimillion-dollar pay.

With the startled look of a man unaccustomed to sharp examination, Lehman chief executive Richard Fuld clashed bluntly with the chairman of the House oversight committee, Henry Waxman, on Capitol Hill.

In a brief speech which was heard in silence, Fuld told legislators that if he could turn back the clock he would do many things differently. As soon as he finished speaking, sparks began to fly.

The chairman of the committee held up a chart suggesting that Fuld's personal remuneration totalled $480m (£276m) over eight years, including payouts of $91m in 2001 and $89m in 2005.

"Your company is now bankrupt and our country is in a state of crisis," said Waxman, a liberal from California. "You get to keep $480m. I have a very basic question: Is that fair?"

After a long pause, Fuld said the figure was exaggerated: "The majority of my compensation, sir, came in stock. The vast majority of the stock I got I still owned at the point of our [bankruptcy] filing."

Waxman cut him off, saying that even if the figure was slightly lower, it was "unimaginable" to much of the public. "Is that fair, for a CEO of a company that's now bankrupt, to make that kind of money? It's just unimaginable to so many people."

"I would say to you the $500m number is not accurate," said Fuld. "I'd say to you, although it's still a large number, for the years you're talking about here, my cash compensation was close to $60m, which you've indicated here, and I took out closer to $250m [in shares]."

Interrupting again, Waxman listed Fuld's collection of property, including a $14m ocean-front villa in Florida and a home in an exclusive ski resort.

"You and your wife have an art collection filled with million dollar paintings," Waxman said. "Your former president, Joe Gregory, used to travel to work in a helicopter."

A pugnacious congressman with a bald head and military moustache, Waxman warmed to his theme: "You made all this money taking risks with other people's money."

Refusing to give ground, Fuld said his pay had been set by an independent compensation committee which spent "a tremendous amount of time" making sure executives' interests were aligned with those of shareholders.

"When the company did well, we did well," Fuld said. "When the company did not do well, we didn't do well."

Waxman disagreed: "Mr Fuld, there seems to be a breakdown, because you did very well when the company was doing well and you did well when the company was not doing well. And now your shareholders who owned your company have nothing. They've been wiped out."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/oct/07/lehmanbrothers.banking

KO killing Sarah

Bringing up AIP--finally!!!

For Sunny J

This is my attempt to make your truck woes seem less awful than they are.

I am rehabbing an exterior wall. The rim joist beneath the wall was rough-sawn 2X6 green oak (now rock-hard oak) when the house was built. Beneath the oak rim joist is a fir two-by plate laid flat. Beneath the fir plate is masonry.

The rough-sawn oak was wavy, causing its thickness to vary by more than five-eighths of an inch. The fir plate and masonry beneath the oak was installed to the outer-most edge of the oak. The outer plane of the floor and the exterior wall sitting on top of this mess was built plumb under the rafters. The plane ignores the extra oak and fir and masonry that wanders outboard.

For reasons I won't get into here, the excess oak and fir are in my way. The house is on one side and a deck is on the other side and the masonry is underneath, so I can only access the oak and fir from above.

So (get this!), I rip-cut approximately fourteen lineal feet of the oak and fir using a wrecking saw (Sawzall) and a nine-inch blade. I used a circular saw at full depth to create a kerf but it was only a couple of inches deep at best.

And I only needed three days to do it! It is possibly the most awful and stupid reconstruction task that I have ever attempted.

The curls from the cut could not eject in a blind kerf (blind because the masonry is below and trashing blades by hammering them into the masonry didn't seem like a good plan) so the curls were cut and recut until they were the consistency of flour. I had to use a keyhole saw to clear the debris in the kerf every half-inch or so.

If I neglected to clear the blind kerf (which I neglected to do a lot), then the debris was hammered by the wrecking saw blade into the density of particle board, causing me to think that I had not cut to full depth what I had already cut to full depth.

Never again.

>>Typo, or no typo? We'll

>>Typo, or no typo? We'll never know. Wild horses couldn't drag it out of him.

yes. I will never tell.

I will never tell you than I meant incite but wrote incent, but when it did not pass the spell check looked it up on dictionary.com...which did little to assure me this was not the word I wanted. But I, in a continuously worsening mind-farting day, figured `close enough is good enough.'

Waterboard me all you want, I defy you. Your wild horses will never drag the truth out of me.

>>Your wild horses will

>>Your wild horses will never drag the truth out of me.

unless they are mavericks.

Here's a show I'd like to see...

Sarah (Vowell) v Amy (Sedaris)


..with Special Guest, Crank Bait.

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does anyone remember a toy

does anyone remember a toy horse that was advertised on tv during the late 60s or early 70s called Maverick the Mustang. the toy horse would propel itself forward when the child bounced in the saddle. the tv ad had a catchy tune...

I tried googling it, but first all I could find were drag racing videos of mavericks vs mustangs.

then I added the word `toy' to the mix and find a plush toy by that name.

does anyone else remember?

or do I have the name wrong...marvel the mustang?

damned. it came to me after all that typing...

Stiffy Stallion?

does anyone remember a toy
Submitted by Chubby Bubba on Mon, 10/06/2008 - 9:33pm.
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I remember the toy but the name that you are applying to it does not ring a bell.

I like that "ride him in a

I like that "ride him in a roundup part"...

you have to wonder how many pets were terrorized by this toy.

I think dogs would find it entertaining to be chased around in this manner...but cats?

they'd head straight for the higher ground.

BTW: did anyone notice that youtube has related videos at the bottom of the screen after the clip plays?

I'd like to direct your attention to the 3rd one in. `The Batmobile", by Marx...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUvfEfKGX9w&feature=related

you'll notice this Batmobile is slightly larger than Crank Bait's Karmann Ghia.

altho they are both propelled by foot.

tr.v., -cent·ed, -cent·ing, -cents.

Careful who you invoke there, big guy.

I thought I felt my ears burning...:)

>>I remember the toy but the

>>I remember the toy but the name that you are applying to it does not ring a bell.

If you read the entire post you'll discover not only did I remember the name was Marvel and was too lazy to rewite the post, but I embedded the youtube video of the commercial.

I can forgive you not watching the youtube, it would take way too long to load such things on dialup, I am assuming you are still on dialup?

or did you get dsl a year or so ago? I remember there being some discussion about it at some point in the distant past.

but you really do have to watch the Batmobile commercial.

I'm starting to wonder if they were actually Karmann Ghias marketed under a different name?

they appear to have the same amount of leg room.

Were Crank to wear a

Were Crank to wear a yarmulke while driving, would it make his car a Karmensch Ghia?

maybe I should stay away

maybe I should stay away from Jew-jokes?

I don't know if they carry well coming from a non-Jewish person.

rachel you ignorant slut

(sorry, just channeling the pat buchannan)

good special comment by keith tonight.

Jew Smew

isn't Judaism a religion? All of them are fair game in my book.

Knock yourself out.

Napoleon Solo

Speaking of toys, I had a Man From U.N.C.L.E. radio that turned into a gun. It was extra cool.

You can see the same toy on this Joel Hodgson stand-up video. It appears approximately a third of the way through the act.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EQI9xS2ltI

>>Knock yourself out. You

>>Knock yourself out.

You may feel differently after I post this! ;)

I watched that for years

why would it bother me now?

Did I ever tell you that all of my ancestors were Jewish? They were Conquistador's too soooo....

My friend thinks an Obama landslide is the only way to change

the grim future...

I remember that toy Crank..

*

I just checked out the DVDs of The Best of The Electric Company...remember that show?

S & L Crisis

Yep ... good one!

more war toy commercials

Gung Ho Commando Outfit Marx Toy Commercial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMqd5EQXD-g&feature=related

Mattel Tommy Burst TV commercial 1960s!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMqd5EQXD-g&feature=related

REMCO JOHNNY REB TOY CANNON COMMERCIAL - 1960s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz-Hvv-hbvo&feature=related

1960s LSD Propaganda Film

1960s LSD Propaganda Film

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5TJApnJ8X8

hilarious.

a talking hotdog who has a wife and kid at home to support?

I bet this chick turned vegan!

Just a rant ...

Palin's attack on Obama's association with Ayers is BS -- as we know it.

**Obama was 7 when Ayers with the Weatherman.

**Ayers is now teaching at U of C -- and while it's a 'liberal' environment, I don't think the Admin would accept a terrorist -- domestic or otherwise -- as a Prof.

**And former 'radical' Black Panther Bobby Rush is now US Congressman Bobby Rush from Illinois. Somehow the voters overlooked this -- me included! -- to elect him to the US Congress.

***And while I'm proud of the ChiWhiSox ~ I'm bummed that the TB Rays beat them today.***

Sigh ...

>>Did I ever tell you that

>>Did I ever tell you that all of my ancestors were Jewish? They were Conquistador's too soooo....

I read about this!

there was an article about a village in Mexico that was settled by Spanish Jews in the Wall Street Journal. I found it so interesting I evidently have not forgotten it yet.

I was paid to read it. It was a temp job at a law firms library. my responcibilities included shelving law books and clip interesting/relevant (they never said relevant to what articles from the WSJ, time allowing. it was as close to blogging as it got at the time.

this was about 12 or 13 years ago. I did it for about 2 weeks while the `boss' was on vacation.

>>the grim future... grim

>>the grim future...

grim why?

seriously, what is your problem with incremental progress?

maybe it isn't all the change in the world RIGHT NOW, but the kind of change you think would have would put this country into a violent backlash. have you failed to notice the right acts like they're about ready to overthrown the government if Obama is elected?

and you want them to mildly accept a real socialist?

you keep blathering about Obama being such a war-monger just because he wants to stabilize Afghanistan be fore we leave it.

People can only accept so much culture shock at once.

I think I misread your post,

I think I misread your post, Alice.

on first read it seemed you were calling an Obama landslide victory a grim future.

on second read it seems like the landslide victory would be the only way to avoid the grim future of McCain/Palin.

Yes the second way you read it is what he was saying -

he is trying to make me change my vote too - and I respect his opinion usually - (ex boyfriend - now my trader)...he says that obama needs a landslide like reagan had....

But he understands my feelings too

... and isn't rude, doesn't call me names or swear at me...

Difficult To Sleep Through

Fan use linked to lower risk of sudden baby death
The Associated Press - 1 hour ago
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I am imagining a guy with a giant foam finger, "Baby is NUMBER ONE! Yaaay!"

"Two, four, six, eight. Who do we appreciate? BABY! BABY! BABY!"

(I'm not sure how this lowers the risk of sudden baby death?)

More Polls Show Obama Ahead

More Polls Show Obama Ahead In Battleground States
By Eric Kleefeld - October 6, 2008, 6:37PM
A new set of polls from Rasmussen shows Barack Obama further dominating in key swing states -- though McCain retains an edge in Ohio for this particular firm:

• Colorado: Obama ahead 51%-45%, with a ±3% margin of error. Last week, Obama had a narrower 49%-48% edge.

• Florida: Obama up 52%-45%, outside the ±3% margin of error. Last week, the two candidates were tied at 47% each.

• Missouri: Obama up 50%-47%, within the ±3% margin of error. Three weeks ago, McCain was ahead 51%-46%.

• Ohio: McCain with a 48%-47% edge, with a ±3% margin of error. Last week, McCain was up 47%-46%, pretty much the same as now.

• Virginia: Obama up 50%-48%, within the ±3% margin of error, not all that different from Obama's 50%-47% lead a week ago.

All five of these states voted for George W. Bush in 2004, and all totaled they have 80 electoral votes. If John McCain were to lose even one from the Republican column, winning would become extremely difficult.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/more_polls_show_...

>>he is trying to make me

>>he is trying to make me change my vote too

good luck to him...it isn't like it hasn't been tried before ;(

>>... and isn't rude,

>>... and isn't rude, doesn't call me names or swear at me...

give him time...

Is Keith Olbermann single?

He is awesome! I really needed the laughs he just gave me. Seriously, sometimes you just need someone to take the confused messes we are presented with and put it into perspective.

I think I'm in love. :-)

It Gets Better...

Sleeping With Fan May Lower SIDS Risk

Study Shows Bedroom Fans May Help Cut Risk of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome

By Salynn Boyles
WebMD Health News

Hi Alice :-)

Hi Crank -

I have an embarrassing rehab moment of my own.

The bathtub to nowhere, as it were...

I bought it. all $600 of it, and it was made for differently configured pipes than what I had in the prior bathtub.

Habitat for Humanity got a tasty donation that year.

The good news is, $3000 and 2 maintenance men later, I have a new bathroom. We still gotta paint it though. But that is all - everything else is done.

Chubbs.. :) you're funny..

He (jokingly I think) offered to send me and P to HI if I change my vote.. *hee hee*....Which I must say you haven't even tried buying me off yet....

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Evening Annette! :)

Noonan’s message to Palin:

Noonan’s message to Palin: ‘Our country is facing huge challenges. Suck it up and be serious.’
Today on The Laura Ingraham Show, Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan criticized Gov. Sarah Palin’s (R-AK) lack of gravity while the nation is experiencing a major financial crisis:

INGRAHAM: She’s saying to people out there who don’t feel like they’re connected to this political culture, “I’m hearing you, I know how you live, I know what your values are, I’m hearing you.” I think that’s what she trying to say. […]

NOONAN: Oh, I think they both ought to get more serious. Our country is facing huge challenges. Suck it up and be serious. And don’t be doing this cute colloquial stuff. It doesn’t sit right with me. And it doesn’t seem fitting. … She’s a spirited person, I get all that, but I would like her to be more serious.

Listen here: at link

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/noonan-palin/

Noonan’s comments represent larger conservative disenchantment with Palin. Yesterday, David Brooks said that she should “read a few more books,” and Kathleen Parker admitted that conservatives “gave her a pass up front.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/05/conservatives-question-palin/

But Why Does She Boil?

Rajah,

Note the byline in my previous post.

Bait: "What's your name?"

Salynn Boyles: "Salynn Boyles."

Bait: "Lynn Boyles."

Salynn Boyles: "SA-lynn Boyles."

Bait: "I just did."

They're delaying the Rezko sentencing

The judge at first had it set for 9-3, and then moved it to 10-28 - 1 week before election day?

Now federal prosecutors are trying to delay the sentencing hearing indefinitely. "Unofficial sources" say it's so he can help them out against the Illinois crime machine...but after being found guilty, isn't it a little late for plea-bargaining?

My instincts tell me the judge is Republican, the prosecutors, Democrat.

This is just speculation..

How To Boost Your Self-Esteem

Get a bedroom fan.

Ba ha ha! I liked this...

This looks just like the 5'7" stickers they gave my kids!

They had a picture of Obama and the word HOPE.

This one was made for Palin...

http://mccain-news.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/sarah-palin.jpg

DEAR PRUDENCE says Palin owes Obama an apology!

Even Dear Prudence thinks so, for cryin' out loud!!!

http://www.wowowow.com/post/loud-mouth-and-loose-lipped-palin-owes-obama...

Bush Quote

I heard our President make the following statement about the credit crisis today. I was dumbfounded.

"We'll make sure that as time goes on, this doesn't happen again. In the meantime, we've got to solve the problem -- and that's why people sent me to Washington, DC. When you see a problem, put a team together and solve it."

Poor guy...

Talk about being out of one's element, eh Crank?

>>Which I must say you

>>Which I must say you haven't even tried buying me off yet....

I could try to bribe you with cats, but you have enough as it is.

just watched todays show

very very good. I loved the interview that Marc did with that fascinating woman...but sam's broker seems like a scum bag arrogant son of a bitch. I like marc's shelly much better.

Happe Talk

just watched todays show

very very good. I loved the interview that Marc did with that fascinating woman...but sam's broker seems like a scum bag arrogant son of a bitch. I like marc's shelly much better.

Happe Talk

Michael Moore's bailout answer

The richest 400 Americans -- that's right, just four hundred people -- own MORE than the bottom 150 million Americans combined. 400 rich Americans have got more stashed away than half the entire country! Their combined net worth is $1.6 trillion. During the eight years of the Bush Administration, their wealth has increased by nearly $700 billion -- the same amount that they are now demanding we give to them for the "bailout." Why don't they just spend the money they made under Bush to bail themselves out? They'd still have nearly a trillion dollars left over to spread amongst themselves!

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/print.php?id=237

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Shouts of "Kill Him" at McCain rally. Video

Run time: 00:28

This also happened at a Palin Rally today. McCain/Palin have the "Kill Him" Vote locked up.

McCain was speaking today in New Mexico, doing his usual personal attack on Barack Obama, as the stock market plummeted (you can see the ticker next to McCain, dropping as he speaks - an apt reminder of what McCain was refusing to talk about today), and McCain asked the crowd "who is Barack Obama?" Immediately you hear a McCain supporter yell "terrorist"and the call to "Kill Him." McCain pauses, the audience laughs, and McCain continues on, not acknowledging, not chastising, not correcting.

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket Free Democracy

I'm glad I don't have

I'm glad I don't have kids.

I wouldn't know how to tell if the baby was the type whose health a fan would benefit or threaten.

something stinks

Homeland mission: Homeland mission “Posse comitatus anyone? How about the fact that military policing citizens goes against the foundation that this country was built on.” — WeaponMIt - Army Times

McCain Hit on Affair,

McCain Hit on Affair, Military Record, by 'LAT' and 'Wash Post'

By E&P Staff

Published: October 06, 2008 7:50 AM ET

NEW YORK Talk about taking the gloves off. First The New York Times on Saturday resurrected the 1990s links between Barack Obama and former Weatherman Bill Ayres. Today, two subjects relating to John McCain pretty much off-limits until recently receive major treatment in two leading papers.

The L.A. Times looks at his pre-POW military record and finds three air crashes and a lot of recklessness (E&P linked to an article on this recently at Neiman Watchdog by Barry Sussman).

Secondly, Paul Farhi in The Washington Post probes the breakup of McCain's first marriage and what it meant to his career. Here's the opening: "In early 1980, John McCain was a man in transition -- and in a hurry.

"Nine months earlier, at a cocktail reception in Hawaii, he met a glamorous young heiress named Cindy Lou Hensley and, by all accounts, fell instantly in love. McCain spent months flying from Washington to Arizona pursuing this new relationship. Soon, the 43-year-old naval attache and his 25-year-old sweetheart were engaged.

"There was only one complication: McCain was still married." The article goes on to reveal that McCain told Larry King in 2002 that he was divorced at that time. And in his 2002 memoir he stated that he was separated from wife, which also was not true, according to legal documents.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_con...

Snooze Fans

Submitted by Chubby Bubba on Mon, 10/06/2008 - 11:22pm.
...I wouldn't know how to tell if the baby was the type whose health a fan would benefit or threathen.
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"Baby, baby, he's our man! If baby can't do it, nobody can! Yaaay!"

Tom DeLay: McCain is 'hard

Tom DeLay:
McCain is 'hard to swallow'

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"If McCain wins the election, we've got just as much work to do as if Obama won," DeLay said. "I've known McCain for 23 years, and McCain's hard to swallow."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/DeLay_McCains_hard_to_...

Hi everybody

Hope ya all had a wonderful day.
Mine was very heck-tic.
I'm listening to that Harrison guy that is on for Malloy

angry barrage of

angry barrage of insults?

how the hell is that Barrack Obama?

classic pot calling kettle black, John.

especially with the cries `kill him, kill him' from McCain's supporters

Yep- why don't they????

Why don't they just spend the money they made under Bush to bail themselves out? They'd still have nearly a trillion dollars left over to spread amongst themselves!

People who want to defund FCS ar f'n stupid

Soldiers from the 4th Battalion, 9th Infantry Regiment say they can't live without it after fielding it in Iraq - Army Times

Do NOT hope they kill this program. As someone who donates for helmets I find McCain's budget threats to this program disingenuous and manipulative. Our soldiers are not cannon fodder for stupid politicians.

Jeez

if Delay is saying that about McSame/McInsane
thats pretty bad.

especially with the cries `kill him, kill him' from McCain's sup

This is something..... I cannot believe that people are saying that.
My mind can't grasp that kind of hate.

>>"Baby, baby, he's our man!

>>"Baby, baby, he's our man! If baby can't do it, nobody can! Yaaay!"

I can tell you aren't going to get over this `baby fan' thing anytime soon.

Apples, peaches, pumpkin pie!

Who's for BABY, holler "AYE"!!!

>>My mind can't grasp that

>>My mind can't grasp that kind of hate.

hard to say they were actually advocating the murder of Barrack.

they may have meant it in a more sports-like context.

like `kill the Ref!' or `murder dem bums!'

omg.....watch THIS

Interview - Naomi Wolf - Give Me Liberty

Happe Talk

>>if Delay is saying that

>>if Delay is saying that about McSame/McInsane

you do understand Delay was saying McCain is just as anti-republican values as Obama?

actually a pretty shrewd thing to say, in a reverse-logic way.

Why Did McCain Sell Out to Big Oil? Ask Charles Keating.

John McCain's new coziness with Big Oil is in many respects just a replay of his old coziness with Charles Keating. In both cases, money and access bought influence. Let's start with oil.

Last month, Time reported that McCain tapped a "prominent Washington lobbyist," William E. Timmons Sr., to run his transition, should he win the election. Who does Timmons and Company lobby for? As of this year, they are getting about $100,000 a quarter from the American Petroleum Institute (API)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-romm/why-did-mccain-sell-out-t_b_13...

>>Interview - Naomi Wolf -

>>Interview - Naomi Wolf - Give Me Liberty

do you have a link of this?

It is half an hour long so I'd rather open it in another browser.

that way I can enjoy the blog while watching it.

"you do understand Delay was saying......."

Yes sir... :)

McSame is making money on his own now -

>>"you do understand Delay

>>"you do understand Delay was saying......."

anyway, he was saying that McCain isn't going to be Bush's 3rd term.

he's right, it'd be worse.

If you can imagine that.

He don't need no

stinking beer heiress ^^^^^^^

The Electric Company

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M98-5g3TYTI
C is for CA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D16rOXiXu_w
Season one theme

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qH-DOXo3bA
Jelly Belly

The debut of groovy DJ Mel Mounds (Morgan Freeman), introducing a song by the first lineup of the Short Circus: Julie (June Angela), Iris (Irene Cara), Kathy (Melanie Henderson), Zachary (Douglas Grant) and Buddy (Stephen Gustafson). Even in the fad-driven world of the 1970s this dance never really caught on, but Carmela (Rita Moreno) seems to dig it.

[According to imdb they are remaking this show for 2009....]

Illinois can't pay backlog of bills, comptroller says

OH SHIT....

Illinois finished the first three months of its budget year in some of its worst financial shape ever, with a mountain of unpaid bills and record delays in payments, Comptroller Dan Hynes says in a new report.
Worse, the report said, with the state's economy still faltering, the backlog of bills and payment delays "will experience an even greater increase by the end of the calendar year and beyond."
State tax collections (and consequently how long it takes the state to pay bills) commonly fluctuate throughout the budget year, which started July 1.
However, the report makes it clear that, on a year-to-year basis, things are getting worse, not better.
As of Tuesday, the report said, more than $1.8 billion worth of bills were sitting in the comptroller's office that couldn't be paid because the state didn't have the money. A year ago at this time, Hynes' office had nearly $1.4 billion in bills waiting to be paid.

http://www.southtownstar.com/news/1203968,100608comptroller.article

Faster than a rolling "O"!

Stronger than silent "E"! Able to leap capital "T" in a single bound! It's a word, it's a plan, it's Letterman!

There's even a character called

J. Arthur Crank:
"Who's the dummy writing this show?" (a memorable quote from Crank)

>>Even in the fad-driven

>>Even in the fad-driven world of the 1970s this dance never really caught on, but Carmela (Rita Moreno) seems to dig it.

Crank still wears an outfit just like the blond kid's

Chubby Bubba

I don't think I can imagine that (If you can imagine that.)
I never thought that this country would of ever turned
out like this. A bunch of dumb fucking idiots. Believing what
ever they are told, not looking into things that are said about
other people. Just plain old believing bull shit, I am speechless,
depressed, & feel that there is NO hope. They'll steal this election 2.

McCain: A worse war criminal than I thought

http://lefti.blogspot.com/2008_10_01_archive.html#5685889500551685069

I've written before (and I think I'm actually the primary source on the web) how John McCain was shot down over Vietnam while bombing a civilian target, a lightbulb factory. And I've also written, and commented, how there were of course more serious war criminals than pilots obeying illegal orders, from the colonels and generals who gave the orders to the Presidents and Secretaries of State and Congresses who sent them there in the first place.

Today I was browsing in a bookstore and picked up a copy of Micheael Moore's Guide to the Elections, and, I swear I am not making this up, the book opened to the page where McCain's wartime history was being recounted, and specifically the larger context of that lightbulb factory bombing:

John McCain flew 23 bombing missions over North Vietnam in a campaign called Operation Rolling Thunder. During the bombing campaign, which lasted for almost 44 months, U.S. forces flew 307,000 attack sorties, dropping 643,000 tons of bombs on North Vietnam. Though the stated targets were factories, bridges, and power plants, thousands of bombs also fell on homes, schools, and hospitals [Left I note: Moore writes as if factories and power plants are not also civilian targets]. In the midst of the campaign, Defense [sic] Secretary Robert McNamara estimated that we [sic] were killing 1,000 civilians a week. That's more than one 9/11 every single month - for 44 months.

Ah, but McCain was still just a pilot following orders, right? Well, not quite:

In his book, Faith of Our Fathers, McCain writes that he had been upset that he had been limited to bombing military installations, roads, and power plants. He said such restrictions were "illogical" and "senseless."

"I do believe," McCain wrote, "that had we taken the war to the North and made full, consistent use of air power in the North, we ultimately would have prevailed."

So McCain was not just a war criminal. He was, and is, a vocal proponent of war crimes.

By the way, I don't know if it's significant, but Moore's book claims McCain was shot down bombing a power plant. I've seen that claim before, but I don't know where it comes from. If you take a look at the link above, which is a 2000 newspaper article based on an interview with the man who rescued McCain from the lake in which he landed, it is clear the target was a lightbulb factory, not a power plant. Has the power plant story been invented to make the target seem slightly more legitimate? I don't know, but I'm sticking with the original source material and the claim of a lightbulb factory unless someone can provide another, equally definitive, source.

Matthew Shepard - Ten Years Later

His story is one that is often told and one that should always be remembered.
It was shortly after midnight on Oct. 7, 1998, when 21-year-old Matthew Shepard, an openly gay University of Wyoming student, was tied to a split-rail fence in Laramie, Wyoming and left for dead in the cold of night. He was found almost 18 hours later by a cyclist who initially mistook him for a scarecrow.
Six days after being discovered, Matthew died from his wounds.
According to a coroner at the trial of his attackers, he “was hit at least 20 times by blows so hard they fractured his skull six times[.]“ The damage was so disturbing that jurors, “winced as they viewed graphic photos of [his] bloodied face[.]”
The brutal murder of Matthew Shepard shocked the nation and in the ten years since has become one of the most covered and discussed anti-gay hate crimes in American history.
Matthew’s mother, Judy Shepard, has devoted this last decade to sharing her son’s story and helping to change hearts and minds across the world. She established the Matthew Shepard Foundation with the goal to “erase hate” and make sure what happened to her son doesn’t continue to happen to others.
http://glaadblog.org/index.php/2008/10/06/matthew-shepard-ten-years-late...

I'm going to hit the hay in

I'm going to hit the hay in a little bit. I have to be downtown to take an ultrasound first thing in the morning, so I need a good night's sleep.

the doctor says my liver enzymes are high, have been so for a year or so...

They want to give me something called the `abnormal liver function test'.

I think I should take a normal liver function test first...

The Israeli poker game: Obama antes up

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=71409&sectionid=3510203

US presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama is committed to increasing foreign aid to Israel, should he be elected in the November ballot.

Obama would honor existing agreements concerning aid to Israel and would work toward "increasing aid to Israel to USD 30 billion over 10 years," a spokeswoman for Obama told Israeli business daily Globes. (Source)

Will McCain call or raise? Stay tuned.

-I think I should take a normal liver function test first...-

That sounds fair...

Goodnight, Chubbs.

>>feel that there is NO

>>feel that there is NO hope. They'll steal this election 2.

that's why we need to get every vote possible for Obama.

This election cannot be close enough to steal (again).

Imagine if Obama gets better than 60 or 70% of the popular vote and they try to tell us McCain won. even if they rig electoral college, he there'd be civil unrest.

Nite everyone

Sleep tight - & don't let those Re-pub-lick-thugs bite.!

Sox Win!

Jon Lester is Jesus.

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http://www.vodamusic.com/blog/

Ah, blissful insomnia...

I can't stop thinking about this guy's eyelashes...

Sometimes my mind just gets fixated on silly things like that...like it won't turn off and let me sleep already...

They are cute eyelashes. He's an asshole, but they are cute...

If I vote for Obama and one more person dies in war

I would feel terrible...I couldn't live with myself...seeing the same crap happen everyday...but I do understand what you are saying smcgee43...

My friend says to wait til his term is over and see how different the world is...

Glacial caves.

For those moments when you think it's cold where *you* are..

http://www.goodearthgraphics.com/virtcave/ice_caves/ice_caves.html

Obama_Youth_Regiment-

Obama_Youth_Regiment- teacher Fired in Missouri - Herr_Obama !!

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/weird/TDVK1DTM192FCFMVU

a Missouri charter school teacher was suspended pending of an investigation of using Schools to train & teach Obama slogans to middle school students, whats next -??- Oabama - Leader?

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
A middle school teacher in Missouri was suspended Monday for putting a video on YouTube of his students chanting lines from Barack Obama speeches and wearing military fatigues.

The video, called "Obama Youth -- Junior Fraternity Regiment," was posted by a YouTube user named "keepitwildtv" on Oct. 2. The school learned the video was on the Internet and took action against the teacher Monday morning.

Click here to see the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEQz5dltmI

Joyce McGautha, superintendent of the Urban Community Leadership Academy, a charter school for students in fifth through ninth grades in Kansas City, Mo., said that the video was probably taken last May during the Junior Fraternity's morning meeting at the school.

She would not disclose the teacher's name. "At this time because of the legal action that we'll probably have to take against the teacher, I'm not going to give his name," McGautha said.

So many Obama signs are being stolen from people's yards

around here...there's nothing they won't stoop to...

And if I voted for him and the election is "stolen"...(tho no one complained about any stealing when the Dem's won congress on the same machines...) and Obama takes a dive like Kerry..then whoa..NO..I'd be livid...

Fucking A...if you do not want war...and you want things good for citizens and not government...the logical thing is to vote for people who want that too...I'm not seeing the logic in voting for someone who does so much I disagree with...

One thing I find curious...

Rezko's wife just ...*gave* Obama property - she buying the land, which just happened to be next to their house, and buying hers the same day they bought their house.

Seems kinda strange thing for someone you hardly know to do.

I like Obama - and the property probably wasn't worth a whole lot of money so who cares in the grand scheme - still, when he said it was a bonehead thing to accept from her, he was right. Beware of Trojans bearing gifts...

Strangely reminded me of "The Firm" - remember that movie?

wolf link

Hi smcgee43 :)

I hope all is well in your world.
And yours, Alice.

I had a busy busy weekend. Took the kids to the police station for Scout Day Saturday. They got to see the jail and they totally had a great time playing with the cop car. And getting their finger prints. And throwing cellphone calls onto the 911 computer screen. And seeing the bike squad.

Then, Sunday, I played softball. For some reason, despite the fact that I'm physically smaller than I have ever been, I swell like a balloon whenever I do anything physical. So get this - overnight, after that softball game, I gained 7 pounds of pure water weight, that went straight to my hands, legs and feet. I lost 3 pounds of it during the day today, and am hoping to lose the rest overnight. But isn't that weird?

The hardest thing about softball is running on and off the field. Totally killer, especially when you're an outfielder.

CranesAreFlying

Is that your blog?

Why a leg?

there are four..they can cheat...why not a tail?

>>If I vote for Obama and

>>If I vote for Obama and one more person dies in war

people will die even if Gloria won.

a lame duck president can't stop a war.

sorry.

Water weight from playing a game?

that is weird....

weirdo... ;)

question is, would you

question is, would you rather end the wars sooner (Obama)

or never (McCain)?

btw: there is a good PBS `American Experience about Carter on here in Seattle right now.

Obama already said he won't stop war..

he's ready to get Iran...

My friend says he is saying things to get votes...that's not so comforting either...

I have to skip American Experience because Boston Legal is on

I hear you...but I don't see evidence of any war stopping from either of them..

Is that your blog?

Technically. It's my band's site. Nothing too much political there, aside from some snarky Twitter posts!

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http://www.vodamusic.com/blog/

>>there are four..they can

>>there are four..they can cheat...why not a tail?

I originally read it was a foreleg. but that still leaves room for sheats.

in the past when such things were done, they specified the right or left leg, ear, whatever...

taking coupe is still barbaric. It doesn't make any difference if it a leg fromshooting wolves from helicopters for bounty or a Viet Cong's ear taken during the Tet offensive to earn points toward rest and relaxation in Saigon.

Humanity should be above this.

And especially America.

>>he's ready to get

>>he's ready to get Iran...

yes, and I believe he is posturing.

If he didn't say such things he'd be unelectable.

He's not going to rush into war if there are reasonable alternatives.

that makes more sense than saying he would never use force under any situation.

which seems like the only way you'd vote for someone.

Oh cool..are there songs from your band to d/l on there..?

___

.♡. - ..

nite. fore reall this time.

nite.

fore reall this time.

(No subject)



-Humanity should be above this.-

Yeah.

But since I just heard that a Hunting Farm in Monterey, CA opened - stocked with Bison and the like - I think that is unrealistic... (see that doesn't feel nice)...

*

-which seems like the only way you'd vote for someone.-

Maybe so...the u.s. govt specializes in killing civilians when in war...that is not correct, imo...US wants Iran (to stop doing what we do) - then go over there and kick the responsible person's ass....don't kill people who have no part in this...

We watched Kerry take a dive....I can't go through that again...even if I did think Obama might be bluffing...

Hasn't Bush made all sorts of things that continue when the new person is in office anyway..war is going in Iraq until at least 2010...? You don't spend money on a green zone like that without thoughts of permanent occupation..

Christian Students Protest Book Ban

Christian students and their parents protested at a Fairfax County, Virginia high school Thursday.

"There's hope, there's redemption, and you could live a heterosexual lifestyle," King said. "That you don't have to live that lifestyle."

songs on the D/L

Technically. The recent thing is only up for streaming. But I think I could probably make it available somehow....

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I may be a weirdo ;-)

but I hear that's a sign of intelligence.
There may be hope for me yet. :-)

You Betcha!

ok. set up for download on the myspace until I remember to take it down or am found out by my bandmates and shot as a traitor.

http://www.myspace.com/vodaband

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http://www.vodamusic.com/blog/

Umm..you said HOPE

I think Obama copywrote that ....
Like that nut, Kevin :)