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Obama Team Counting Senate Votes on Eric Holder as Attorney General

Tuesday, November 18, 2008 4:00 PM

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President-elect Barack Obama's aides have privately asked senators whether Washington attorney Eric Holder would be confirmed as the next attorney general, according to a person involved in the talks.

The talks suggest that Obama is deeply interested in Holder, who served as the No. 2 official in the Justice Department under President Clinton.

In the past week, Obama aides have asked Senate Republicans whether they would support Holder. In particular, the aides questioned whether Holder's confirmation would be delayed because of his involvement in the 2001 pardon of fugitive Marc Rich by President Bill Clinton.

Newsweek, quoting unidentified legal sources close to the presidential transition team, reported Tuesday that Obama offered Holder the job and he accepted. Newsweek said Holder still has to undergo a formal "vetting" review by the Obama transition team before the selection is final.

One person involved in the talks told The Associated Press that the Obama team has received some assurances that, while the Rich pardon would certainly come up during hearings, the nomination likely wouldn't be held up over that. The person spoke on condition of anonymity to describe the private conversations.

West of House

You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door.

There is a small mailbox here.

hee hee!

I think we all have bptsd. I personally am having a hard time trusting what any politician says because we have been so systematically lied to and deceived that it is hard to imagine that anyone in that club can tell the truth.

I also have a wait and see attitude, but sometimes I get triggered like today with Lie Berman, and then hearing about the non prosecution of torture. Sam cleared this up for me a bit but still it is easy to throw up my hands and say, "see, they are all alike damnit!"

I also had a rough day with work which does not help. 2 no shows. Subsequent boredom and worry. It all goes together. And then to top it off Sam calls me mappenhow again :)

I think he has a lysdexia problem....

SO LONG SENATOR TUBES!!!
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Huge Gain for Begich in Alaska Vote Counting (+)
by: tremayne
Tue Nov 18, 2008 at 17:12

There's an update in the vote counting for the Alaska Senate race and it's great news for Mark Begich:

Begich: 146,286

Stevens: 143,912

The difference is now 2,374 votes. That's up from 1,022 I believe, and good for a percentage lead of 0.77%. The number of votes remaining to be counted is small which makes it unlikely Stevens can close the gap.

http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=10013

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"I am A Great American Patriot !!!" - McCain Scroter
http://www.vodamusic.com/blog/

The 3% won't be happy about this one either!

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Obama won’t investigate terror interrogators

Barack Obama’s incoming administration is unlikely to bring criminal charges against government officials who authorized or engaged in harsh interrogations of suspected terrorists during the George W. Bush presidency.

Obama, who has criticized the use of torture, is being urged by some constitutional scholars and human rights groups to investigate possible war crimes by the Bush administration.

Two Obama advisers said there’s little — if any — chance that the incoming president’s Justice Department will go after anyone involved in authorizing or carrying out interrogations that provoked worldwide outrage.
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Obama has committed to reviewing interrogations on al-Qaida and other terror suspects. After he takes office in January, Obama is expected to create a panel modeled after the 9/11 Commission to study interrogations, including those using waterboarding and other tactics that critics call torture. The panel’s findings would be used to ensure that future interrogations are undisputedly legal.

Please link to your articles if you want us to consider reading them. thx.

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"I am A Great American Patriot !!!" - McCain Scroter
http://www.vodamusic.com/blog/

I don't think at any point Obama said he planned to pursue a 3% agenda.

On the contrary I think Barack said he was planning a bi-partisan administration.

In one of the debates he even told Hillary he looked forward to having her as one of his advisers.

From the 97%'s point of view Obama is as good as his word!!

I really think there's something to that. There's been an emotional abuse aspect to the Bush years that remains to be explored. I know it's messed me up a bit, I was barely political before 2000.

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"I am A Great American Patriot !!!" - McCain Scroter
http://www.vodamusic.com/blog/

You are marvelous as far as posting
that blog for Alice. That is very sweet
of you. Just wanted to say that. Oh..
also its very cool of Sam to let you
do that. (Not that he wouldn't)

Hope you are all well... Nov. 25th is
"Internets" day for me @ home. New house
is wonderful..... still un-packing & will be for quite
some time.

Good to see Kevin is back :) Hope things are going well
for you.

Haven't looked at any jokes in a while .... but I saw this one a little while ago ...

An elderly couple was attending Mass.

About halfway through, the wife leans over and says to her husband, 'I just let out a silent fart; what do you think I should do?

He replies, 'Put a new battery in your hearing aid.'

:

MMRules - how are ya doin'??

Hope everything is good with you 8-)

Waiting for a call so I have to go now.

out of me Kev..
That is a funny one.

Sure... And Obama doesn't want any problems over what he does in Afghanistan either!

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Obama advisers: No charges likely vs interrogators

Asked this weekend during a Vermont Public Radio interview if Bush administration officials would face war crimes, Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy flatly said, "In the United States, no."

"These things are not going to happen," said Leahy, D-Vt.

Robert Litt, a former top Clinton administration Justice Department prosecutor, said Obama should focus on moving forward with anti-torture policy instead of looking back.

"Both for policy and political reasons, it would not be beneficial to spend a lot of time hauling people up before Congress or before grand juries and going over what went on," Litt said at a Brookings Institution discussion about Obama's legal policy. "To as great of an extent we can say, the last eight years are over, now we can move forward — that would be beneficial both to the country and the president, politically."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jNJh9ZFMqkoehf9byAYKGn...

I would like to know why???

Why aren't these bas-turds going to
be held accountable for what they did.
That political & policy reasons is a
bunch of BULLSHIT.

I don't know if you caught post this from earlier...I'll repost so you are caught up...say hi to you mother for me and tell her I'm not okay with her lot lizard friends coming over and drinking all my beer...just because she does it doesn't mean her junkie friends can...my Liberal compassion only goes so far...

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WaDo gets off when Liberals become outraged and feel jilted by their party...THAT empowers his monkey ass enough to float the retarded argument that Democrats reject Liberalism and that Liberalism is really only practiced by a minority in this country. What I saw in Grant park, all over America and the world on Nov. 4 was far far far from "Centrism".

WaDo is a Bankrupt Pussy...

He delights in nothing more than blowing the Limbaughs and O'Reilly's of the world...and not only does he swallow, he gargles...(sorry about that visual)

He's a Concubine of the Right and no more Centrist than his dead mother is actually dead, or the chance that he ever had a mother that gave a shit about him.

He and his ilk lost BIG TIME on Nov. 4th and now he's frantically trying to convince you that you did too.

His life is empty enough to be THAT full of purpose in this endeavor.
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Stop the Bush/Cheney

11th-Hour Assault on Wolves in Greater Yellowstone and the Northern Rockies!

With the clock running out on the Bush/Administration, federal officials have launched a final attempt to ram through a plan that could lead to the slaughter of as many as two-thirds of the Greater Yellowstone and Northern Rockies wolf population.

http://www.defenders.org/

Didn't mean to ignore you.

You just read like more repetitive bullshit.

But I should clarify one point.

It's not about Liberals..

God Bless the Liberals...

It's all about 3%ers!

There are Liberal Democrats.

There are Conservative Democrats..

Then standing outside with their noses pressed against the window are the 3%ers.

And that makes all the difference in the world!

Have a nice day....

I know I will!!!!!

>>You just read like more repetitive bullshit.

oh, the pot calls the kettle black.

priceless irony...but, oh, how I wish the pot had never been manufactured.

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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

Just been sleeping..One of my ketching up on sleep coma's..

How are you guys doing ? Good I hope..

I think I'11 watch replay of todays show and,get caught up abit.. :)
Thanks,for asking.. :)

And,you hang in there,Kevin ! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Wouldn't that make it "cast-irony"?

:)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

...and I got him mad enough to betray his message and drop his mask......again!

I love these moments!

I do apologize to everyone for the vulgarity...

...had to be done...

...now back to our regularly scheduled programming :)

lol, cent! :)

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/photogalleries/template.html?topic=Ob...

from the Vancouver Sun: "Perhaps Obama could find a use for a 'war dog.'" In this picture, Asha, a German shepherd with the Marines' 2nd Military Police Battalion in Iraq, sports "doggles" - goggles designed to keep out sand, as she waits to go on another bomb-sniffing mission." Master Sgt. Chris Burgess -- 2nd Military Police Battalio
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

nice find, Chubbs!

Sometimes I forget that there are courageous and cute war dogs!

The only good use I can think of for an old wardog would be as the guest of honor at a Filipino barbecue.
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>>there are courageous and cute war dogs!

unfortunately, our WarDog isn't either of those things...I think we've got the only WarDog to get a section 8 and a dishonerable discharge.
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

always reminds me of Klinger...

>>always reminds me of Klinger...

Klinger was great in the book, movie and the early seasons

Actually, that's my opinnion of the whole MASH thing.

Excellant book, great Movie, and a good series that declined after the first few seasons.

I guess it is because the anti-war message of the book was watered down until Klinger actually became part of the Army...
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

I don't know if anyone else sees the providence in it, but the day Lieberman is pardoned is the same day Mark Begich's victory is proclaimed inevitable...and by the end of today, it's possible he'll be declared the winner.

Moment Of Doom Creeps Closer For Stevens As Begich's Lead Grows

"As a percentage, Begich leads by a margin of 0.77%, above the 0.5% that would entitle a losing candidate to a state-paid recount."

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URGENT ACTION NEEDED! Comment! RTR Purchase is a Lousy Land Deal for Wild Buffalo

Your public comments are needed by 5:00 pm, Friday, November 21, 2008, on the so-called land deal - a 30-year lease of grazing rights from the Royal Teton Ranch - between state and federal agencies, some conservation groups, and the Church Universal & Triumphant (CUT). If this land lease goes through, CUT will receive more millions for leasing their land for a mere 30 years so that a handful of captured, tested, and tagged bison could temporarily occupy portions of their native range outside Yellowstone's north boundary. Over the years, thousands of wild bison have been slaughtered for even looking in the direction of these lands. Back in 1998-99, $13 million U.S. tax dollars were spent to allow wild bison and other migratory wildlife safe passage through this critical corridor, but to date, bison have been repeatedly harassed and killed for attempting to access these lands. Now, the agencies involved are touting it as a huge step forward, when, in reality, it is a corridor to nowhere with only 25 buffalo gaining temporary access to it and only after being run through the typical buffalo torture gauntlet of capture, testing, telemetry device implants, and tagging.

TAKE ACTION TODAY FOR THE BUFFALO! The agencies are pressing forward with the process and, having finished the scoping phase. They have quickly prepared a draft environmental assessment (EA). FWP is accepting public comments on the draft EA through Friday, October 31. Click here to send comments now and to review talking points and supporting information. Information is also pasted below for your convenience. FWP must receive your comments by 5:00 pm MST Friday, November 21, 2008. Please send your comments to:

Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks
Attn: RTR Grazing Rights Purchase
1420 East Sixth Avenue
P.O. Box 200701
Helena, MT 59620-0701
email: RTRgrazing@mt.gov

http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/

Chubby Bubba....

Little pups are very cool War Dogs 2.
Hey Alice..

Obama Advisers: No Charges Likely Versus Interrogators

by Lara Jakes Jordan

WASHINGTON - Barack Obama's incoming administration is unlikely to bring criminal charges against government officials who authorized or engaged in harsh interrogations of suspected terrorists during the George W. Bush presidency. Obama, who has criticized the use of torture, is being urged by some constitutional scholars and human rights groups to investigate possible war crimes by the Bush administration.

Two Obama advisers said there's little - if any - chance that the incoming president's Justice Department will go after anyone involved in authorizing or carrying out interrogations that provoked worldwide outrage.
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2008/11/18-1

The best we can hope for is that this president chooses a dog friendlier than Barney. Over a billion dollars was spent to achieve this. I bet you don't hear the term 'public financing' again for at least two years.

Which is our real War Dog?

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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

we have heard a hell of a lot more about Obama's potential new dogs than we have heard about whether or not he is going to restore habeas corpus for American citizens?

By my observation, not even ONE reporter or pundit has asked him about habeas corpus.

I grew up on that show....my father loved it. It's perhaps the perfict blend of camp and poignancy...and the movie, well, my favorite Altman picture...and one of THE BEST all time movie posters...

"[But the fact] is, he does vote 90 percent of the time with the Democrats..
Howard Dean

The Democrats have been saying this about Lieberman probably since he decided to go independent against lamont. Outside of the recent backstabbing and his paranoia about Israel's security, he is a loyal Democrat. Actually, his fanatical support of Israel is fairly mainstream among the Democrats at the top. They listen to AIPAC. Anyway, perhaps Obama's Magnanimous is me strategy will work, if Joe continues voting 90 percent of the time with the Democrats. (I wonder what sort of stuff the 10 percent of the time was.)

Did you spray WD 40 on your elbows....or what?

>>we have heard a hell of a lot more about Obama's potential new dogs than we have heard about whether or not he is going to restore habeas corpus for American citizens?

he's a poker player...you think he should show his hand before the first bet?

yeah, let's force Obama to tip his hand so Bush will pardon everyone.

besides, he said he wouldn't prosecute the torturers, not the people who ordered them.

you don't have to be a Harvard Lawyer to see the distinction.

Sam had a good spin on this on today's show.
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Besides, we don't really know diddly-squat about the white house dog...all we know is he delayed getting one until after the transition.
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

We've gotten a few things besides a new White House puppy.

http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=10012

I'd add to that the intention to scrap Bush's long list of disgusting executive orders.
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"I am A Great American Patriot !!!" - McCain Scroter
http://www.vodamusic.com/blog/

Is Gay the New Black?
By Dennis Prager

Gay and straight activists who liken their demand to redefine marriage to black suffering under Jim Crow merely cheapen historic black suffering. Most blacks know this but for the sake of their political coalition won't say it. They should. Rosa Parks is in a different moral category than the protestors against Proposition 8.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/11/is_gay_the_new_black.h...

Firefox has a built in spellcheck.
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

It can even make a person sound smart. That's why I use it. My spelling in real life needs some work.

For decades, Congressman John Dingell has been the driving force behind groundbreaking progress on everything from environmental protection to health care access and support for the auto industry. His leadership is vital to our state and our country as we work together to turn our economy around.

Congressman Dingell's position as Chair of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce is under attack, and we need your help. Please visit http://www.michigandems.com/sendletter.php to join the effort to keep Chairman Dingell in this important role.

The attempt to unseat the Chairman is not only an attack on his position but on the working families and citizens he has fought to protect. Please share this petition with your friends and family across the country who have also benefited from Chairman Dingell’s service.

As Dean of the Michigan delegation and the United States Congress, Chairman Dingell's expertise and ability find compromise to get results is unparalleled. Please make sure your voice is heard in this critical fight.

Tonight's email from the Dems.

Your kinda livin in an alternate universe.

In your world Obama is a wild-eyed 3%er.

And happy-go-lucky 97%ers care enough to get mad at your repetitive schoolyard silliness.

I just got back from the Hot Tub and pool.

It was marvelous.

You follow in a very long line of 3%ers who have tried and failed, but if it help you to vent some of your frustrations with reality.... Have at it!

even if the Big O is keeping his cards close to his vest, that still doesn't speak to the fact that nobody has even bothered to ask him about it.

>>It can even make a person sound smart

thanks, I..uh...think...errr...

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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

We all know you are totally nuts and we all laugh at you.

Could be could be.

Here's one thing that's a HUGE deal for me. If we're at 58 Senate seats, that means that we just need either Franken or Jim Martin to win a seat to give us 59. Add Arlen Specter to that and we're at 60 votes for cloture on the Employee Free Choice Act. Which would be fucking monumentally important for working people of all kinds.

Employee Free Choice Act on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employee_free_choice_act
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"I am A Great American Patriot !!!" - McCain Scroter
http://www.vodamusic.com/blog/

Or...JK in webspeak.

I can't believe the sheer stupidity that comes out of that asshole...

all the spell-check in the world wouldn't make him `seem smart'.
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like he won't do that anyway. Please.

>>Or...JK in webspeak.

oh, I thought I was being PWNED. ;)
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

This blog is VERY important to the guy that plays War Dog on the internet. He comes here hoping for some form of validation. He obviously has serious mental issues but he refuses to seek qualified help. I can't think of any other blog where he wouldn't be expelled for his shit disturbing. He makes no valid contributions here.

On habeas corpus....
new
Submitted by Regnad Kcin on Tue, 11/18/2008 - 8:24pm.
even if the Big O is keeping his cards close to his vest, that still doesn't speak to the fact that nobody has even bothered to ask him about it.

He voted for the FISA revision. Is there something specific that Obama can be for or against concerning habeas corpus?

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Cheney_Gonzales_indicted_1118.html

This is a really nice start.

http://gizmodo.com/5092477/10-things-you-should-know-about-the-new-xbox-...

Completely new OS. 10min download.

Hope it works.

From Gizmodo: "The New Xbox Experience, a.k.a. the new Xbox 360 Dashboard, hits tomorrow. If you've got an Xbox 360 that's connected to the internet, you're going to be prompted to update your console as soon as you turn it on. No exceptions..."

The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. ~ George Bernard Shaw

One can't have credibility with the 3% without being a 3%er.

And who wants that!

Being right is enough for me.

It suits me just fine!

Innocent people don't need pardons.

granting pardons to people not under suspicion is an admission of wrong doing.
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Cheney, Gonzales Indicted By South Texas Grand Jury - First to get one to stick!

South Texas is my home sweet home and it's sweeter today!!!!!

>>Cheney Gonzales indicted

A Texas grand jury has indicted outgoing Vice President Dick Cheney and former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on charges related to alleged abuse of prisoners in Willacy County federal detention facilities, the Associated Press reported.

Cheney's stake in the Vanguard Group, which holds interests in the private prison companies that run the detention centers, was cited in the indictment. Cheney is accused of a conflict of interest and "at least misdemeanor assaults" on detainees through his ownership interest.

Gonzales is accused of using his position during his time as Attorney General to block an investigation into abuses at the detention centers, located in south Texas.
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

Here is a good example of this fellow's insanity. He thinks he is "right." Classic.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Naomi_Klein_Bailout_multitrilliondollar_cr...

don't know if he's been asked since the election, but these are good signs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqE3j10keLc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbrb09p1L5g

And he's on record recently saying that they were indeed going to close Guantanamo, which would seem to imply a restoration of habeas corpus.

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"I am A Great American Patriot !!!" - McCain Scroter
http://www.vodamusic.com/blog/

habeas corpus?

Yes, there is. It is called RESTORING it for American citizens.

http://www.intent.com/blog/2008/11/14/frequency-intent-healing

The fight over the Energy and Commerce chairmanship is really the fight over the next Congress, and all their forces are gathered to protect John Dingell's slow-walk stance on global warming. The lobbying of the newly elected members if furious, on both sides. Now, you're going to hear a lot of polite talk about how Dingell has a respectable plan on climate change that is less aggressive than the progressive alternative on climate change, but that's DC nonsense borne of a fear of the vindictive Dingell. Dingell's plan doesn't even start capping carbon emissions until 2030. It's a non-starter. It's designed by the coal and auto industry, and its authors even want to preempt existing California mandates on carbon emissions.
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=9889

In the Democratic presidential primary this year, Dingell supported Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.), while Waxman supported Obama.
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/dingell-tells-obama-he-is-eager-to-w...

Relax, fella!

For a man who "reads like repetitive bullshit" and "schoolyard silliness"...you sure can't seem to avoid responding to my posts!

Then again, why avoid me when YOU know that I know you're stewing??

It's best to obey one's Nature...

What was the phrase Janeane used?

Ah, yes "Pavlov's Dopes"...

BTW, I LOVED the, "Didn't mean to ignore you", part..

You "ignored" me for all of about 8 minutes...

he he...

Oh, and "God Bless the Liberals!"

That was Perfect...

We have you Chasing your own Tail, Doggie...

Instead of Commanding the Debate...

It's best to leave that to the Grown-Ups, anyway...

Be sure to wear your Swimmies, now...

I thought Dingell was the Gay officer on Reno 911?
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begins tomorrow.I hope the dnc has sent an army of lawyers to monitor.

He's good enough,he's smart enough,and gosh darn it,he's not norm coleman

I've seen happen here in all the years of the blog. You must be quite pleased...and deservedly so.

until he gets his "secret" plan from McCain.

Congratulations on the South Texas Grand Jury.

Go AL - Go AL!!!

Lieberman weak on oversight
http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=173&a=8725
(I was listening to Leopold on the radio when he said that Cheney had been indicted. I should have known that people here would be ahead of the curve on that breaking news.)

>>You must be quite pleased...and deservedly so.

yeah...and that sword can cut both ways.

think of all the other bloggers that are never singled out for praise...

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>>until he gets his "secret" plan from McCain.

well, now you've just gone and put yourself on the `don't bother to read' list.
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

If you haven't already...if you can still get to the archives here....read all the nice things that were said about you while you were visiting the other.

A lot of folks here had your back...missed you, and said so.

Re: 60, 60th
Submitted by CranesAreFlying on Tue, 11/18/2008 - 8:25pm.

Could be could be.
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Well, odds are Franken will win, if the Alaska race is any measure for that. ie. the recount will more than likely put Franken over the top, since undervotes heavily favor the Democrats.

Franken's Position Looks Surprisingly Good, New Political Study Shows

Alaska and Minnesota were not only the safer bets for Democratic wins, but the ones we could do the least about.

What the Dems and Obama need to put all of their resources into is the Georgia race. With Obama having overwhelmingly won the election, that is sure to heat up as the date nears. The more national media light that shines on that race, the more it will favor the Democrats in terms of enthusiasm for turnout and we know who has the better ground game at this point.

I'm excited!

>>A lot of folks here had your back...missed you, and said so.

I'm not thinking about myself. I'm thinking of good bloggers whose names I can't even remember.

ones that complain about how cliquish it can be here.
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in MN. Coleman ahead by 215 votes. Courts will rule on whether rejected absentee ballots will be included. So close. I'd hate to have that sleazy jerk Coleman win by such a close vote.

Not that often. Still one of the best spots to hang out.

Well, odds are Franken will win, if the Alaska race is any measure for that. ie. the recount will more than likely put Franken over the top, since undervotes heavily favor the Democrats.

Like -B, for instance. What's weird is, I realized today that I can't remember the nic of the crazy Aussie that used to insult everybody here...in his own "good" way, of course.

Oh, and R Wiley...I really miss his good work.

This is like an episode of Reno 911. I am not gay.

What am I talking about?

I’m talking about the insidious collaboration of notorious enemies of freedom such as Chuck Schumer and supposed “Second Amendment supporters” like current NRA board of directors member Larry Craig (R-ID) and another NRA golden boy John Dingell (D-MI) on the “Our Lady of Peace Act.” This is a partnership manufactured in the very depths of anti-freedom hell, and one on which the NRA is keeping conspicuously silent.
http://www.armedfemalesofamerica.com/takingaim/another.htm

Lieberman credits Obama after Dems let him keep post

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Democrat-turned-independent Sen. Joe Lieberman managed to keep his Senate committee chairmanship in part because President-elect Barack Obama didn't want to punish him for supporting Sen. John McCain, Lieberman said Tuesday.

Sen. Joe Lieberman speaks Tuesday after Democrats allowed him to keep his committee chairmanship.

The Senate Democratic caucus, following a lengthy and often heated debate, voted 42-13 Tuesday to let Lieberman continue chairing the Senate Homeland Security Committee.

The caucus did, however, strip Lieberman of his spot on the Environment and Public Works Committee.

A Democrat in the Senate for 18 years before going independent, Lieberman criticized Obama, the Democratic nominee, during the race for the White House.

"I know that my colleagues in the Senate Democratic caucus were moved not only that Sen. [Harry] Reid said about my longtime record, but by the appeal from President-elect Obama himself that the nation unite now to confront our very serious problems," Lieberman said in the Capitol as those colleagues nodded in agreement behind him.

Democrats were angered by Lieberman's speech to the Republican National Convention, where he praised his longtime friend McCain and criticized Obama for not reaching across the aisle to work with Republicans during his time in the Senate

DOROTHEA DICKS FELLOWS. That was classic.

Wonder what happened to her?

I agree with you...I am still enjoying it today too...my heart is all squishy...(makes it harder to think politically today..) I d/l all the videos and who posted them so I can watch them when I get home tonight...it really is a beauty thread... thanks to the Blog...

It's not just the few rejected absentee ballots, that's just part of the canvassing for errors since the election. They are going to recount the whole state, including tens of thousands of undervotes. Undervotes are when the optical scanner registered no vote for either candidate, for whatever reason. Since most undervotes are cast by the poor, less educated and new voters who are not familiar with the process, they all have a heavy Democratic lean, hence Franken's probable win.

Do you remember?

crazy Aussie

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He wasted a year of his life tryin to attack War Dog...

Funny little guy he was...

But he had a sad drug habit though...

Seem to be a recurring problem in the 3%.

Drug habits are very prevalent among all groups. McCain's old lady is a junkie. It can strike anyone.

An insane person like you cannot recognize that. You need help. As much as any drug dependent person does.

per MSNBC Chuck Todd

with Imperial Sugar:
http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2008/11/18/watchdog-group-cha...

>>A lot of folks here had your back...missed you, and said so.

Really? Aside from Alice, ToniD, Sunshine Jim, Crank Bait and Air Ono, I got no support from you guys.

They took the time to actually write me. some of them even sent me ten or twenty bucks. (which was/is greatly appreciated). Ono actually sent me 50! (which eclipsed the combined total of the others)

Anyway, my point, poorly made, is that one can't single one out without ignoring others.

Have you ever thought of who might be the best bloggers here?

Could we actually come up with such a list?

at one point I was tempted to list my favorite bloggers but decided not to after considering just how many great bloggers deserving of the list. I just can't make that list because I know I would end up neglecting too many people.

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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

There are alot of people who left the blog that I miss. But life does go on beyond this blog.

I think if Sam has a radio show again, alot of bloggers would come back or at least pop in once in awhile.

Well not really anyone.

But I have found it runs rampant in the 3%.

It's not exactly a new story in the 3%.

He is NO WORSE THAN JFK, MLK, RFK, and Ike, and the current rethugs (and past rethugs) ...and...whomever...

I was hoping for "true" balance, but it is meant to be same ol' story, ...yet "If The People Lead, then The Leaders will Follow."

I may Bitch about Obama being a rethug-lite DEM, but he is no different than PAST -- except NOW THE PEOPLE NEED TO BE INVOLVED "en masse"!

;)

215 votes? 3 million votes cast? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Guy is right, the only people who can steal this from Franken are the Lawyers...

Franken is the Junior Senator from Minnesota. Period. Bet the house.

Steny Hoyer: Don't expect us to be real Democrats
Joe Sudbay (DC) · 11/18/2008 05:15:00 PM ET · Link
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Today, Senate Democrats showed us that disloyalty and trashing the Democratic agenda have no consequences. Joe Lieberman was rewarded for his bad behavior.

Next up, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer.

Using the coded language of the right wing, Hoyer said today that Democrats in Congress aren't really going to be Democrats:
As the House prepares to elect its leaders, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer is challenging the idea that the expanded Democratic majority and its leaders will make a hard left turn.

“For the first time in decades, we are a true national majority party—and if we want to stay that way, we must govern like one,” Hoyer (D-Md.) is to say in a speech today at the National Press Club, according to excerpts of his remarks obtained by The Hill.
Hoyer did, in fact, deliver this speech today at the Press Club. But, he wanted the message out in advance that he'd be trashing the left, which is why his office gave it to The Hill in advance.

Hoyer, as usual, has it all wrong. If Democrats want to stay in power, they need to enact the agenda of change for which people voted. The Democrats need to actually lead, something Democrats often seem incapable of doing. Instead, too many Democrats, like Hoyer, undermine the progressive agenda every step of the way. The biggest problem we're going to have this year won't be from Republicans. One of their leaders, Eric Cantor, told the Washington Times the GOP is irrelevant:

"Where we have really fallen down is, we have lacked the ability to be relevant to people's lives. Let's set aside the last eight years, and our falling down in living up to expectations of what we said we were going to do," Mr. Cantor told The Washington Times in his district office outside of Richmond. "It's the relevancy question."
Cantor is right.

So, the biggest obstacles to change will be Democrats like Hoyer who will undermine the agenda that the American people think they're getting from President Obama. The corporate-backed Democrats prefer pablum and inaction. And, we've already seen that Senate Democrats are spineless. The Democrats on Capitol Hill are going to be their own worst enemies.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/11/steny-hoyer-dont-expect-us-to-be-real...

Hmmmmm. Thinking that one over. I was in here and remember it differently.

Keep in mind that some folks in here were a little reluctant to involve because of the nature of your deed and your somewhat explosive behavior on the blog from time to time.

That's in the past. Quit your sniffling.

Senator Kennedy Announces Plan to Submit Bill For Universal Health Care

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.), making his second appearance on Capitol Hill since he began treatment for a malignant brain tumor in June, told reporters yesterday that he would advance a bill early next year calling for universal health care.

Some Democrats, including members of President-elect Barack Obama's circle, have begun to view expanded coverage as a longer-term goal.

The brief appearance by Kennedy, who made a surprise return in July to vote on a Medicare bill, represented an opportunity for him to show colleagues that he remains energetic and engaged, and that he intends to reclaim his committee post in January and take charge of the Obama health-care agenda. Some Democrats had speculated that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) would attempt to assume the chairmanship of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee.

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) rolled out his own health-care bill days after Obama was elected, and Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) also expects to be a leading participant in the effort to establish universal health care.

Kennedy has a head start on them all. Despite his illness, he directed his staff months ago to begin work on legislation that would vastly expand health coverage, a career-long goal of his....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/17/AR200811...

I REALLY like the sound of that, cent! :)

There is no 3%. It is fiction. It is part of your mental problem. It is a device you use to attempt to improve your self image. Other people see it for the true, ugly manifestation it represents. I have encouraged you to seek qualified help in the past but you refused.

We are all just laughing at you now. Your act has never matured in here. Shit disturbing has been your only game. You are a lost soul. I feel only the empathy for you that I would for any other mentally ill person. Sadly, you have made such an asshole of yourself here that nobody cares. You are a living redundancy.

>>I was in here and remember it differently.

I still have every letter I received from you guys.

I can't really guage the support I recieved from people who took 5 seconds to post a nice thought...I'll take your word for it...but...if they didn't care enough to actually put pen to paper...how am I supposed to know?
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

I wish I had known you then Chubbs, I would have gladly baked you a file cake.

Actually, I have a recipe for a Dremel cake that might have worked a little better.

Franken's chances look surprisingly good:
Professor Michael C. Herron of Dartmouth College, has put together a new study of the voting patterns in Minnesota, in the process determining that the majority of voters who cast unrecorded ballots in the Senate race were likely Franken supporters.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/17/frankens-position-looks-s_n_144...
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A strange twist in the Mark Cuban story tonight, one which pushes it a little bit further into our wheelhouse. New York Times blogger Floyd Norris has published an email allegedly sent on May 05, 2007 to Cuban by Fort Worth SEC lawyer Jeffrey Norris (”no known relation to me”, notes the blogging Norris). In the email, Jeffrey Norris essentially tells on Cuban to SEC Chairman Christopher Cox, who is CCed, regarding Cuban’s involvement with Loose Change, a 9/11 conspiracy theory film which appeared online in three different incarnations over three years, becoming an internet sensation.
http://blog.spout.com/2008/11/18/mark-cuban-sec-charges-related-to-911-m...

"Franken is the Junior Senator from Minnesota"

Date of prediction-11-18-08

jjust been called

AP calls AK race for Begich!!!